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Feanor
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Posted - 21 Feb 2006 :  18:11:03  Show Profile Send Feanor a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Does anyone know or at least have any theories about what could cause the flights of dragons ? Cult of the Dragon suggests some possibilities, but it also insists that the true cause remains a mistery. On the other hand, Evermeet:Island of the Elves says that the cause is the influence of a star called King Killer. Any opinions ?

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It's something that's being explored in the Rogue Dragons trilogy; one of the short stories in Realms of the Elves also deals with this phenomenon.

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TomCosta
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The Rogue of the Dragons trilogy gets into great deal as to why.

SPOILER space.
















Eons ago, the elves chafed under the yoke of the Age of the Dragons. In order to throw them off they crafted mighty high magic/mythal to throw the dragons into rage, making them incapable of ruling. However, someohow they tied the rage to the appearance of the King Killer Star, most likely a comet of some sort, that appears in the sky. That's about the sum of what we know so far.
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George Krashos
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You would think that "Dragons of Faerūn" will shed even more light on this phenomenon. All we have to do now is wait.:)

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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

It's something that's being explored in the Rogue Dragons trilogy; one of the short stories in Realms of the Elves also deals with this phenomenon.

And don't forget the two Realms of the Dragons anthologies that go along with the "Rogue Dragons" trilogy.

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Between Richard's trilogy, both anthologies, and Dragons of Faerun, all will be perfectly clear as to the how and why of the Rage (though I can't say anything specific about exact details). Besides those, Richard's book "Queen of the Depths" also has a nice tie-in to the Rage as it relates to aquatic dragons. A number of upcoming novels (similar to how the Time of troubles popped up in different ways in numerous novels) will have tie-ins.

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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

It's something that's being explored in the Rogue Dragons trilogy; one of the short stories in Realms of the Elves also deals with this phenomenon.

And don't forget the two Realms of the Dragons anthologies that go along with the "Rogue Dragons" trilogy.



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Wooly Rupert
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Whoa, another Realms designer comes in! Enter and be welcome, Eytan!

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The Sage
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Whoa, another Realms designer comes in! Enter and be welcome, Eytan!

Indeed. Greetings to you Eytan, and welcome to Candlekeep. We greatly look forward to your future contributions to Realmslore discussion here .

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Thank you for the welcome. I've wanted to say something sooner, but Wizards only officially announced Dragons of Faerun on its site this week, though it's been unofficially announced in other places.

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Well met

And indeed welcome to Candlekeep. 'tis always a pleasure to have FR authors and designers herein and I look forward to discussing forthcoming products with thee

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A question here, so if the dragon flights happen in the appearance of a King Killer Star,
1) so how frequently does the King Killer Star appears?

2) Is its name tied to something significant?

For currently, I and my friends are planning a campaign that involves dragon flights and so we need information to make the campaign realistic. Thanks.
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I think Elaine probably would have some information about that as it seems to have a lot to do with Evermeet and Moonblades. Beyond that, you'll just have to wait and see.

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quote:
Originally posted by silvermage

A question here, so if the dragon flights happen in the appearance of a King Killer Star,
1) so how frequently does the King Killer Star appears?

2) Is its name tied to something significant?



I can't answer the first question off the top of my head... To answer the second question, I must offer a spoiler about one of the short stories in the new Realms of the Elves. Highlight the following text to read:

SPOILER BEGINS
It's called the King Killer star because when elven magic triggered the first dragon flight, it caused the draconic rulers of the time to go berserk. These dragon kings were, in many cases, slain by their own subjects as the dragons rampaged. So, since the star lead to the killing of the kings, that was the name it earned.
SPOILER ENDS

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quote:
Originally posted by silvermage

1) so how frequently does the King Killer Star appears?
From Elaine -

"As I recall, however, the Kingkiller star was a large and infrequently occuring comet, one traditionally associated with times of great upheaval for the elves. The real world reference I had in mind was Hailey's Comet, and its appearance in 1066, shortly before the Battle of Hastings. There's something incredibly powerful about "portents in the night skies," and it seems to me that the elves, who are so aware of and sensitive to starlight, would be particularly attuned to stellar events."

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