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 Why Waterdeep instead of Baldur's Gate?
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RodOdom
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USA
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Posted - 15 Feb 2006 :  16:06:42  Show Profile  Visit RodOdom's Homepage Send RodOdom a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Baldur's Gate is more centrally located in relation to the North, the nations of the South as well as the Moonshaes. Why then is Waterdeep of greater wealth and importance than Baldur's Gate?

Snotlord
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Posted - 15 Feb 2006 :  16:09:49  Show Profile  Visit Snotlord's Homepage Send Snotlord a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Less competition? Baldur's Gate has Amn breathing down its neck. Also, Waterdeep has better access to the North.
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Jindael
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Posted - 15 Feb 2006 :  16:11:54  Show Profile  Visit Jindael's Homepage Send Jindael a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Skullport helps, and wasn't there something about warm water from Neverwinter flowing through the traderoutes?

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Fletcher
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Posted - 15 Feb 2006 :  16:13:00  Show Profile  Visit Fletcher's Homepage Send Fletcher a Private Message  Reply with Quote
San Francisco is more centrally located to everything on the west coast, it has a much larger harbor and better railroads. It doesn't need to have all of its water pumped in from two thousand miles away, and is surrounded by fertile farmland, why does Los Angeles have greater wealth and importance?

Luck, business opportunities, reputation. Humanity does things without really looking at what would be better in 50 years. We look at what is good for us now. Hence...Waterdeep in its odd location is more powerful, richer and Baldur's Gate is second rung.

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RodOdom
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Posted - 15 Feb 2006 :  16:21:55  Show Profile  Visit RodOdom's Homepage Send RodOdom a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Also, Badur's Gate has the River Chionthar, which could take shipping all the way to Iriaebor. From there, according the the electronic atlas, it's only two hundred miles to the Sea of Fallen Stars, with no Anauroch getting in the way.
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Beirnadri Magranth
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Posted - 15 Feb 2006 :  16:35:44  Show Profile  Visit Beirnadri Magranth's Homepage Send Beirnadri Magranth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
also there arent as many cities near waterdeep. and waterdeep is much much older!

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Shadovar
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Posted - 18 Feb 2006 :  01:39:22  Show Profile  Visit Shadovar's Homepage Send Shadovar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Cause there are many reasons why Waterdeep is more popular than Baldur's Gate, here are some things I think that makes Waterdeep attractive:
1) Its colorful history.
2) The resident archmages including two Chosen residing there.
3) Better laws and ruling system.
4) Undermountain, offers plenty of opportunities to those who are death-defying.
5) Skullport, need a black market? here it is.
6) A sort of important trading centre to the cities and nations in the further North.

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Mystery_Man
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Posted - 22 Feb 2006 :  20:41:45  Show Profile  Visit Mystery_Man's Homepage Send Mystery_Man a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Waterdeep is better protected don't forget, it's walled and elevated.
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Fletcher
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Posted - 22 Feb 2006 :  23:45:43  Show Profile  Visit Fletcher's Homepage Send Fletcher a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Reputation. When someone thinks about going west to the sword coast and visiting a large city... the city that comes to mind is Waterdeep. Hence everyone going there, the city's size and power.

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Kajehase
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Posted - 23 Feb 2006 :  00:23:59  Show Profile Send Kajehase a Private Message  Reply with Quote
And the one thing you've all forgotten to mention - Waterdeep has a big natural deepwater harbour.

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RodOdom
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Posted - 23 Feb 2006 :  03:49:42  Show Profile  Visit RodOdom's Homepage Send RodOdom a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kajehase

And the one thing you've all forgotten to mention - Waterdeep has a big natural deepwater harbour.



For me, that's the most convincing answer. Hopefully Ed Greenwood can answer this question definitively on his thread.
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Volo
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Posted - 23 Feb 2006 :  10:02:30  Show Profile  Visit Volo's Homepage Send Volo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Also, success breeds success. Slowly, Waterdeep became more famous than Baldur's Gate, (probably because, legitimately or no, Baldur's Gate's reputation is tied to pirates), and hence, people who have moved towards the Sword Coast have gravitated towards the city they've heard the best news about, namely Waterdeep. Ergo, it grows. And that attracts more people who have heard of it, and of course the current citizens meet and have children, and again, it grows. A classic example is Portland, Oregon. From all geographical, economic, and historical points of view, the big city in Oregon should be Astoria, not Portland. But people in the East had heard of Portland, but not heard so much about Astoria, ergo, when they moved to Oregon, they moved to Portland. And she grew. And more people heard of her. And she grew. And well, now, Portland has a million people, and Astoria has 50,000.

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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 23 Feb 2006 :  23:12:12  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Please don't take this personally but I think this thread is...well, kind of dumb. I love both cities for different reasons.

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