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scererar
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Posted - 11 Feb 2006 :  18:01:10  Show Profile Send scererar a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
hey all,

Has anyone heard rumor/ metion of, a new version of the interactive atlas? I have been looking, and kicking myself for not purchasing this when it first came out. I have been trying to get a copy off of ebay, but as everyone knows, the price is anywhere from 150 to 200. I keep getting out bid. I think with a new, updated version put out by WOTC, it would stop the madness of people paying out the rear from 3rd parties. anyways, what are your thoughts? with my luck I will win by bidding and then a new version would come out

Arivia
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I haven't heard of anything, but there wouldn't be much to include in it-maybe 15 products, and then adjusting everything for the 3e map skew. Profantasy, IIRC, hasn't done anything to justify a map software upgrade...and, well, WotC doesn't seem too inclined to reply to player demand right now(see lack of errata, the lack of a Black Wolf reprint).
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Kes_Alanadel
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Tifus and I got lucky and got the last copy that a hobby store in Corvallis had...brand new. We haven't heard anything about an upgrade either.

Ack! I seem to have too much blood in my coffee stream!

When did 'common sense' cease to be common?
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 12 Feb 2006 :  05:46:20  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I know that a lot of people would like to see this software rereleased or updated, but I've not heard anything official about such a thing happening.

I really lucked out on my copy -- I got it for half-price, from TSR's Mail Order Hobby Shop. I'd ordered from them in the past, so when they started dumping the software, they sent me half-price offers in the mail. I got both the Forgotten Realms Interactive Atlas and the Dragon Magazine Archive CD-ROM for half-price. The latter item is something else people want to see updated.

Personally, I think that both programs were likely over-priced when they were still new. We were just really getting into the age of PCs in every house, and the internet was still new and shiny then -- yet the software was still kinda pricey. I think that hurt sales.

Me, I'm trying to get my hands on the Expansion for the 2.0 Core Rules CD.

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scererar
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Posted - 12 Feb 2006 :  06:39:47  Show Profile Send scererar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Wooly,

There is a copy right now on ebay that comes with the 2.0 core rules and the atlas. You could even use the buy it now button for only 199.00 A little out of my range though, I was up to 130.00 for the last copy I bid on, but even that was not enough. I agree with you, I too would like to see the dragon magazine archive updated.

Edited by - scererar on 12 Feb 2006 06:41:02
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 12 Feb 2006 :  07:13:50  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by scererar

Wooly,

There is a copy right now on ebay that comes with the 2.0 core rules and the atlas. You could even use the buy it now button for only 199.00 A little out of my range though, I was up to 130.00 for the last copy I bid on, but even that was not enough. I agree with you, I too would like to see the dragon magazine archive updated.



Heh. I've already got the other software -- I just need the expansion. And since I owe the IRS money (plus V-Day is next week), spending that kinda green is kinda out of the question.

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RodOdom
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Posted - 12 Feb 2006 :  21:06:30  Show Profile  Visit RodOdom's Homepage Send RodOdom a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have the atlas and use it a lot DMing online games. The map makers probably included information available from all previously published maps up to that point. It's an incredibly good reference. But it can also be a really inconvenient piece of software. It was designed for older PCs with low memory limits, so the world map is divided into lots of separate maps with different zoom levels. Some large regions don't have a more detailed level at all. Also, navigating these sub-maps can be really clunky.
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 12 Feb 2006 :  22:13:16  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by RodOdom

It was designed for older PCs with low memory limits, so the world map is divided into lots of separate maps with different zoom levels.


More accurately, it was designed to be run on Win95/98 -- it was something, at the time. It's just that advances in the PC world have left this program behind.

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scererar
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Posted - 13 Feb 2006 :  02:00:39  Show Profile Send scererar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
more reason for an updated version, more compatable with today's computer systems.
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Horatio
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Israel
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Posted - 01 Mar 2006 :  11:35:50  Show Profile  Visit Horatio's Homepage Send Horatio a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hmm... I'd love to see a "Google Earth" version of the Forgotten Realms. What? I can dream...
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ode904
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Posted - 13 Apr 2006 :  07:18:26  Show Profile Send ode904 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Google Earth version of FR Atlas... Yes, only a dream:).. But yes, a newer version of Atlas would be nice!
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Varl
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Posted - 08 Jul 2006 :  16:36:17  Show Profile Send Varl a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by ode904

Google Earth version of FR Atlas... Yes, only a dream:).. But yes, a newer version of Atlas would be nice!



Well then Realms fans, you might just get it! Sign it, and hopefully with enough interest, Profantasy will upgrade and improve the Atlas to be more functional. So come on, sign me! Let's get a new Atlas!

http://www.profantasy.com/petition/

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 08 Jul 2006 :  17:32:02  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Varl

quote:
Originally posted by ode904

Google Earth version of FR Atlas... Yes, only a dream:).. But yes, a newer version of Atlas would be nice!



Well then Realms fans, you might just get it! Sign it, and hopefully with enough interest, Profantasy will upgrade and improve the Atlas to be more functional. So come on, sign me! Let's get a new Atlas!

http://www.profantasy.com/petition/



I've signed and shared the link... But 350 signatures isn't a good start.

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Mazrim_Taim
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Posted - 09 Jul 2006 :  03:44:57  Show Profile  Visit Mazrim_Taim's Homepage Send Mazrim_Taim a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Varl

quote:
Originally posted by ode904

Google Earth version of FR Atlas... Yes, only a dream:).. But yes, a newer version of Atlas would be nice!



Well then Realms fans, you might just get it! Sign it, and hopefully with enough interest, Profantasy will upgrade and improve the Atlas to be more functional. So come on, sign me! Let's get a new Atlas!

http://www.profantasy.com/petition/



Has this been posted in the Wizards of The Coast boards as well? Maybe we can get some more signatures there.

And if the PCs DO win their ways through all the liches to Larloch, “he” will almost certainly be just another lich (loaded with explosive spells) set up as a decoy, with dozens of hidden liches waiting to pounce on any surviving PCs who ‘celebrate’ after they take Larloch down. As the REAL Larloch watches (magical scrying) from afar. Myself, as DM, I’d be wondering: “Such a glorious game, so many opportunities laid out before your PCs to devote your time to, and THIS fixation is the best you can come up with? Are you SURE you’re adventurers?” -Ed Greenwood
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 09 Jul 2006 :  06:24:10  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Mazrim_Taim



Has this been posted in the Wizards of The Coast boards as well? Maybe we can get some more signatures there.



Not by me. I'll not go back there for any reason until my wrongful banning is rescinded.

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Mazrim_Taim
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Posted - 09 Jul 2006 :  06:57:59  Show Profile  Visit Mazrim_Taim's Homepage Send Mazrim_Taim a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Mazrim_Taim



Has this been posted in the Wizards of The Coast boards as well? Maybe we can get some more signatures there.



Not by me. I'll not go back there for any reason until my wrongful banning is rescinded.



If it's not too sensitive of a subject, why were you banned? You don't have to respond if you don't want to.

I was asking because I do not frequent the Wizards forums that often.

And if the PCs DO win their ways through all the liches to Larloch, “he” will almost certainly be just another lich (loaded with explosive spells) set up as a decoy, with dozens of hidden liches waiting to pounce on any surviving PCs who ‘celebrate’ after they take Larloch down. As the REAL Larloch watches (magical scrying) from afar. Myself, as DM, I’d be wondering: “Such a glorious game, so many opportunities laid out before your PCs to devote your time to, and THIS fixation is the best you can come up with? Are you SURE you’re adventurers?” -Ed Greenwood
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KnightErrantJR
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Posted - 09 Jul 2006 :  07:03:00  Show Profile  Visit KnightErrantJR's Homepage Send KnightErrantJR a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Wooly, they are asking for the story again . . . If it gets asked for this many times, can we start calling it an "Uncle Wooly Story." I kind of like the sound of it
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 09 Jul 2006 :  07:27:17  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Rather than repost it, I'll simply provide a link to where I last told the tale of my banning.

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Mazrim_Taim
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Posted - 09 Jul 2006 :  08:04:10  Show Profile  Visit Mazrim_Taim's Homepage Send Mazrim_Taim a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Rather than repost it, I'll simply provide a link to where I last told the tale of my banning.



Wow, I always knew the Wizard forums were a bit querky but this is just...

I have to agree with the last part of your story though Wooly, those are the same reasons I choose to dwell in Candlekeep more often than I do the Wizards boards.

And if the PCs DO win their ways through all the liches to Larloch, “he” will almost certainly be just another lich (loaded with explosive spells) set up as a decoy, with dozens of hidden liches waiting to pounce on any surviving PCs who ‘celebrate’ after they take Larloch down. As the REAL Larloch watches (magical scrying) from afar. Myself, as DM, I’d be wondering: “Such a glorious game, so many opportunities laid out before your PCs to devote your time to, and THIS fixation is the best you can come up with? Are you SURE you’re adventurers?” -Ed Greenwood
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scererar
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Posted - 10 Jul 2006 :  01:44:10  Show Profile Send scererar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by KnightErrantJR

Wooly, they are asking for the story again . . . If it gets asked for this many times, can we start calling it an "Uncle Wooly Story." I kind of like the sound of it



I kind of like the sound of uncle Wooly.... great idea KEjr.

Uncle Wooly can we have another story please
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KnightErrantJR
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Posted - 11 Jul 2006 :  02:04:46  Show Profile  Visit KnightErrantJR's Homepage Send KnightErrantJR a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Not to distract this thread from Uncle Wooly Stories (heh heh), but Paizo also has a thread linking the petition to the thread as well, posted by Lilith. So its spreading out to a few different related D&D sites (of course, since its on Paizo, its only a matter of time before some Greyhawk fan shows up and claims that the FR atlas used to be the Greyhawk atlas and the programmers got all of their ideas from Gary Gygax . . . sigh).
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Kuje
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Posted - 11 Jul 2006 :  02:09:23  Show Profile Send Kuje a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by KnightErrantJR

(of course, since its on Paizo, its only a matter of time before some Greyhawk fan shows up and claims that the FR atlas used to be the Greyhawk atlas and the programmers got all of their ideas from Gary Gygax . . . sigh).



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KnightErrantJR
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Oh no, not bitter at all . . . just because some of these guys sound like the "superfans" from Saturday Night Live, as long as you replace Ditka with Gygax . . .
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Wooly Rupert
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427... That's only 75 sigs since the other day, and only 400 since I first saw this a couple weeks ago. Those numbers aren't going to get anyone's attention. If you guys really want this, the word needs to be more widely spread. I've posted it in the couple of places I can...

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Varl
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Posted - 11 Jul 2006 :  06:06:22  Show Profile Send Varl a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

427... That's only 75 sigs since the other day, and only 400 since I first saw this a couple weeks ago. Those numbers aren't going to get anyone's attention. If you guys really want this, the word needs to be more widely spread. I've posted it in the couple of places I can...



So have I. I'm even going to sig it for everywhere I go. Of the 3361 members, where are they now? Come on lurkers! If you bothered to sign up here because you love the Realms, how could you not be excited at a Google Earth-styled Atlas (assuming they improve it to that level) or even it's a simple upgrade to make it fully functional under current-day OS's?

I still use and refer to the old version with all 936 maps to date despite the globe being rendered inert. I'm ready to see the Atlas improved instead of forgotten (the irony), and to see a day where I have thousands of edition-neutral maps for it created and supplied by all the users of the Atlas the way the good people over on Dundjinni support their product.

That's my dream.

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Wenin
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Posted - 11 Jul 2006 :  15:11:36  Show Profile Send Wenin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I've posted it everywhere I can. I'm the one that brought it to the attention of roleplayingtips.com.

I've also informed everyone in my group that have internet access.

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SirUrza
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Has this reached the Enworld forums yet?

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Varl
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Posted - 14 Jul 2006 :  03:37:56  Show Profile Send Varl a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SirUrza

Has this reached the Enworld forums yet?



Not that I'm aware of. I'm not signed on over there. Too much d20.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 14 Jul 2006 :  04:38:24  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SirUrza

Has this reached the Enworld forums yet?



I'm not over there... The only two forums I'm on are this one and the Heavy Metal Pro one. And since that's all about BattleTech, it's hardly appropriate to plug an FR product over there.

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Wenin
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Posted - 14 Jul 2006 :  23:52:58  Show Profile Send Wenin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Petition hit the 500 signature mark. They're looking to get 1000.

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Gray Richardson
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I signed. I don't own it. I so very much want them to re-release it. I certainly will buy it.
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