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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
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 Posted - 21 Jan 2006 : 03:06:47
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Alright, in an earlier thread, I explained the quest (long term) that the one of my player's druid/rogue has inherited, involving either saving Meilikki's son's soul from Malar, or ressurrecting him outright (See this thread):
http://www.candlekeep.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5087
What I want to know is, where should he have been from? The timeline that he would have had to have been active would have to have been after the Harpers were formed, but several hundred years ago. Anyone have any ideas on where a half divine ranger such as this might have hailed from?
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 21 Jan 2006 : 03:30:05
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Maybe he followed his mother from the Finnish pantheon when she and Loviatar came to Realmspace. On the way, he was captured by Malar and killed?
So you could have him come from Earth, or any other planet that you decide on. :) |
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 21 Jan 2006 : 03:36:01
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I may not use Earth, but using a Finnish pantheon prime would be interesting, especially if there was still a gate nearby that led to it . . . hm . . . thanks Kuje.
Any other thoughts out there? |
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 21 Jan 2006 : 03:38:29
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Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
I may not use Earth, but using a Finnish pantheon prime would be interesting, especially if there was still a gate nearby that led to it . . . hm . . . thanks Kuje.
Any other thoughts out there?
Hells, you could even have Loviatar be the one who betrayed him and she was the one who allowed, I.E. tipped off, Malar, which allow him to capture Mielikki's son. :) |
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 21 Jan 2006 : 04:03:52
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| Hm . . . its an interesting twist, but if I add one more evil cult or power group (well, besides the Cult of the Dragon), I think the player of the party barbarian will have an aneurism (he's the only one that wasn't familiar with the Realms beforehand, and while he is having a blast, he intentionally played a barbarian so he wouldn't have to keep anything complex in mind . . . just aim himself toward evil and hack). |
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 21 Jan 2006 : 04:37:16
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Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
Hm . . . its an interesting twist, but if I add one more evil cult or power group (well, besides the Cult of the Dragon), I think the player of the party barbarian will have an aneurism (he's the only one that wasn't familiar with the Realms beforehand, and while he is having a blast, he intentionally played a barbarian so he wouldn't have to keep anything complex in mind . . . just aim himself toward evil and hack).
Grin.... well you can build on that.... maybe a worshipper of Loviatar is part of the Cult and he/she is the only one who knows the "truth."
But then, I'm devious and like to make threads that build on top of other threads. :) |
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qstor
Acolyte
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Posted - 08 Feb 2006 : 20:40:03
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Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
What I want to know is, where should he have been from? The timeline that he would have had to have been active would have to have been after the Harpers were formed, but several hundred years ago. Anyone have any ideas on where a half divine ranger such as this might have hailed from?
Maybe from an area of the Realms that worships Meilikki, from a few hundread years in the past. Maybe a human from Cormanthor?
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Asgetrion
Master of Realmslore
Finland
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Posted - 09 Feb 2006 : 06:51:39
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Hmm, being a semidivine son of Mielikki he might have spent all those years just wandering the "Far Corners of the World", especially its ancient woodlands. Another idea - perhaps he even went to Sildeyuir - the Realm of the Star Elves?
You might even consider modeling him after Kullervo from the Finnish mythology - a tragic hero type that heavily influenced Tolkien's tale of Turin Turambar.
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Talanfir Swiftfeet
Learned Scribe
Finland
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Posted - 09 Feb 2006 : 10:16:45
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| In finnish mythology Mielikki is the goddess of forests and hunting. She is the wife of Tapio (finnish version of Silvanus). Tapio has a daughter called Annikki who is the goddess of nighttime (not certain if her mother is Mielikki). |
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
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Posted - 09 Feb 2006 : 11:03:50
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| I'm starting to think that I might use him as a character from another prime, where the Finnish pantheon was worshipped, that met with a disaster. During the disaster, Mielikki's son helped to guide her followers to a glade that would transport them to another world to safety. One of the side stories I thought of was that Malar was an interloper deity that had started to plague this prime, and thus there started a rivalry between Mielikki and Malar before she even had a presense in the Realms . . . what do you think so far? |
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ericlboyd
Forgotten Realms Designer
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Posted - 09 Feb 2006 : 13:24:46
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Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
I'm starting to think that I might use him as a character from another prime, where the Finnish pantheon was worshipped, that met with a disaster. During the disaster, Mielikki's son helped to guide her followers to a glade that would transport them to another world to safety. One of the side stories I thought of was that Malar was an interloper deity that had started to plague this prime, and thus there started a rivalry between Mielikki and Malar before she even had a presense in the Realms . . . what do you think so far?
I'm not sure I'm understanding the question, but if you're looking for areas of Mielikki worship from a few hundred years ago, I would suggest looking at Prayers from the Faithful. There's a lot of Mielikki hotspots mentioned therein.
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 09 Feb 2006 : 17:04:17
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Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
I'm starting to think that I might use him as a character from another prime, where the Finnish pantheon was worshipped, that met with a disaster. During the disaster, Mielikki's son helped to guide her followers to a glade that would transport them to another world to safety. One of the side stories I thought of was that Malar was an interloper deity that had started to plague this prime, and thus there started a rivalry between Mielikki and Malar before she even had a presense in the Realms . . . what do you think so far?
Snds good to me. :) I got nothing else to say since that looks good. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 10 Feb 2006 : 00:44:08
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Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
I'm starting to think that I might use him as a character from another prime, where the Finnish pantheon was worshipped, that met with a disaster. During the disaster, Mielikki's son helped to guide her followers to a glade that would transport them to another world to safety. One of the side stories I thought of was that Malar was an interloper deity that had started to plague this prime, and thus there started a rivalry between Mielikki and Malar before she even had a presense in the Realms . . . what do you think so far?
Sounds like a great idea for a campaign KEJR. Good stuff!
About the plague though... what are you looking at exactly? As I see, to start a rivalry between Mielikki and Malar and also to force her to a point where her son would need to take her followers to another world, the plague would have to affect her (or perhaps her worshippers) in such a way as to provoke such sharp response from her.
How about something that transforms her followers into primal creatures motivated only by bloodlust and a savage heart... Malar's plague perverts the natural course of Mielikki worship altering the worshipper base and turning them into the very thing they are supposed to be warding the forests against. Thus, in order to save what you can, and keeping with in the spirit of nature... she orders her son to take what followers remain uncorrupted and set the seeds for a new faith on another world.
The new faith blossoms, and Mielikki arrives to accept the new worshipper base in the Realms.
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
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Posted - 10 Feb 2006 : 00:57:48
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Originally posted by The Sage
About the plague though... what are you looking at exactly? As I see, to start a rivalry between Mielikki and Malar and also to force her to a point where her son would need to take her followers to another world, the plague would have to affect her (or perhaps her worshippers) in such a way as to provoke such sharp response from her.
How about something that transforms her followers into primal creatures motivated only by bloodlust and a savage heart... Malar's plague perverts the natural course of Mielikki worship altering the worshipper base and turning them into the very thing they are supposed to be warding the forests against. Thus, in order to save what you can, and keeping with in the spirit of nature... she orders her son to take what followers remain uncorrupted and set the seeds for a new faith on another world.
The new faith blossoms, and Mielikki arrives to accept the new worshipper base in the Realms.
I originally was thinking more of a world event like what happened to Faerie at the begining of Evermeet, so that it really has nothing specific to do with Malar, and his and Mielikki's rivalry is kind of a side issue when she has her son lead followers to a safe new world, but I'll have to think on this one, as its a pretty interesting idea.
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Originally posted by ericboyd
I'm not sure I'm understanding the question, but if you're looking for areas of Mielikki worship from a few hundred years ago, I would suggest looking at Prayers from the Faithful. There's a lot of Mielikki hotspots mentioned therein.
--Eric
Sorry, yes, part of what I was looking for was just in general where the original settlers might have come through with Mielikki's son, and as I started brainstorming, I got off track. I'll be sure to check in there, since I have that reference, and thanks for chiming in.
And thanks Kuje for setting me more or less down this path to begin with . . . |
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