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darkcrow
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Posted - 02 Jan 2006 :  22:15:56  Show Profile  Visit darkcrow's Homepage Send darkcrow a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Is there any good source books or sites that has info on my Raven familar leveling up?

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Kentinal
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As per 3.5 " All familiars have special abilities (or impart abilities to their masters) depending on the master’s combined level in classes that grant familiars, as shown on the table below. The abilities given on the table are cumulative."

The familar does not earn experience points, their abilities are based on thier mistress.master level. The SRD (many found on the web) provides more information about familiars.

"Small beings can have small wisdom," the dragon said. "And small wise beings are better than small fools. Listen: Wisdom is caring for afterwards."
"Caring for afterwards ...? Ker repeated this without understanding.
"After action, afterwards," the dragon said. "Choose the afterwards first, then the action. Fools choose action first."
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darkcrow
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Posted - 02 Jan 2006 :  22:29:17  Show Profile  Visit darkcrow's Homepage Send darkcrow a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kentinal

As per 3.5 " All familiars have special abilities (or impart abilities to their masters) depending on the master’s combined level in classes that grant familiars, as shown on the table below. The abilities given on the table are cumulative."

The familar does not earn experience points, their abilities are based on thier mistress.master level. The SRD (many found on the web) provides more information about familiars.




thank ye for the valuable info!!

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Wooly Rupert
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Several years ago, in Dragon Magazine, there was an article about enhancing familiars. It was a series of spells that, when cast on a familiar, gave the familiar new/enhanced abilities.

The article was entitled "That's Certainly Un-Familiar", and appeared in Dragon 181.

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darkcrow
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Posted - 02 Jan 2006 :  22:43:31  Show Profile  Visit darkcrow's Homepage Send darkcrow a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Several years ago, in Dragon Magazine, there was an article about enhancing familiars. It was a series of spells that, when cast on a familiar, gave the familiar new/enhanced abilities.

The article was entitled "That's Certainly Un-Familiar", and appeared in Dragon 181.




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Kentinal
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Several years ago, in Dragon Magazine,



Would that be 2nd? Not that some of 2nd exists for 3rd.

"Small beings can have small wisdom," the dragon said. "And small wise beings are better than small fools. Listen: Wisdom is caring for afterwards."
"Caring for afterwards ...? Ker repeated this without understanding.
"After action, afterwards," the dragon said. "Choose the afterwards first, then the action. Fools choose action first."
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Arivia
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Posted - 02 Jan 2006 :  23:26:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Several years ago, in Dragon Magazine, there was an article about enhancing familiars. It was a series of spells that, when cast on a familiar, gave the familiar new/enhanced abilities.

The article was entitled "That's Certainly Un-Familiar", and appeared in Dragon 181.



And those have been reprinted in a few sourcebooks-off the top of my head, I think they appear in Complete Warrior, Complete Arcane, Magic of Eberron(that might just be infusions for homonculi), Miniatures Handbook, and Spell Compendium.

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Wooly Rupert
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And those have been reprinted in a few sourcebooks-off the top of my head, I think they appear in Complete Warrior, Complete Arcane, Magic of Eberron(that might just be infusions for homonculi), and Spell Compendium.



Actually, unless they have been updated and put in the Spell Compendium, I don't think the spells from that article have been reprinted. I believe they were called "Familiar Enhancer", and there was a version for every spell level from 1-9. Each one had a table listing possible different enhancements the familiar could receive, and they were, as I recall, permanent.

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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by Kentinal

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Several years ago, in Dragon Magazine,



Would that be 2nd? Not that some of 2nd exists for 3rd.



It was indeed in 2nd edition, long before the unleashing of 3rd edition. I believe the Player's Options books were still years off, at that point.

If the spells have been updated for 3E, I've not seen them.

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Arivia
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quote:
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quote:
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And those have been reprinted in a few sourcebooks-off the top of my head, I think they appear in Complete Warrior, Complete Arcane, Magic of Eberron(that might just be infusions for homonculi), and Spell Compendium.



Actually, unless they have been updated and put in the Spell Compendium, I don't think the spells from that article have been reprinted. I believe they were called "Familiar Enhancer", and there was a version for every spell level from 1-9. Each one had a table listing possible different enhancements the familiar could receive, and they were, as I recall, permanent.



Oh, geez, no-those haven't. Similar spells, at least, have been, then. I can understand the reasoning behind it, too-what you're describing doesn't fit at all well with 3e's casting system.
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Wooly Rupert
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True... But I would think that they could still be adapted... And such spells make sense, too. Wizards spend all this time crafting new spells, new magical items, doing all this stuff to make themselves more formidable... But then they don't do anything for their familiars. As I recall, those spells didn't give familiars any offensive abilities, but they did make a familiar smarter, hardier, and a lot more useful...

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Crennen FaerieBane
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I think they are just throwing their lot in now with the Improved Familiar feats. Seems to make it a lot smoother than with spells. And it also let's players plan out their character advancement based on the familiar that they wanted from the start.

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Fletcher
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Posted - 03 Jan 2006 :  18:53:14  Show Profile  Visit Fletcher's Homepage Send Fletcher a Private Message  Reply with Quote
we had a house rule about allowing familiars to gain an NPC class level every other character level. This allowed players to have familiars who were more functional at higher levels, and made them much more interesting to role play with as they were capable of more.

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