Candlekeep Forum
Candlekeep Forum
Home | Profile | Register | Active Topics | Active Polls | Members | Private Messages | Search | FAQ
Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?

 All Forums
 Realmslore
 Sages of Realmslore
 WotSQ Question (SPOILERS)
 New Topic  New Poll New Poll
 Reply to Topic
 Printer Friendly
Author Previous Topic Topic Next Topic  

Drakul
Senior Scribe

USA
367 Posts

Posted - 13 Dec 2005 :  09:57:27  Show Profile Send Drakul a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
I have been pondering this in my head ever since I read it in one of the WotSQ books. Vhaeraun needed one of his followers to grant him access to the area where Lolth was at. Now, what I really find interestin is that both Vhaeraun & Lolth are located in the Demonweb Pits. Why couldn't Vhaeraun just go there himself?? He has the power to do so. Hell, Selvetarm did it without help. Kind of makes one wonder, does it not??

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDonLNKf6_KA9Qlal3Qu3zQ?view_as=subscriber

Kentinal
Great Reader

4702 Posts

Posted - 13 Dec 2005 :  10:42:16  Show Profile Send Kentinal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Look at it this way. The Demonweb Pits is just part of the 66th level of the Abyss that Lolth has exerted her personal control over, her children are not permitted to enter freely (thus the need of aid to get past the locks/wards/defenses.

It works something like this, when all three were banished each managed to take a part of the 66th level to live in, that there was a demon lord (or lords controling parts of it) ruling it and Lolth however in time became the ruling Demon lord controling most of the 66th level. The Demonweb became the area of Lolth's personal area of control that extends though much of the 66th level. Vhaeraun and Eilistraee might still control a small section of the 66th level though Vhaeraun's main area of control/home is/was Colothys/Ellaniath and Eilistraee's is/was Nidavellir/Svartalfheim.


"Small beings can have small wisdom," the dragon said. "And small wise beings are better than small fools. Listen: Wisdom is caring for afterwards."
"Caring for afterwards ...? Ker repeated this without understanding.
"After action, afterwards," the dragon said. "Choose the afterwards first, then the action. Fools choose action first."
"Judgement" copyright 2003 by Elizabeth Moon
Go to Top of Page

Drakul
Senior Scribe

USA
367 Posts

Posted - 13 Dec 2005 :  10:56:32  Show Profile Send Drakul a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ahh, then that explains it. Thank you.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDonLNKf6_KA9Qlal3Qu3zQ?view_as=subscriber
Go to Top of Page

KnightErrantJR
Great Reader

USA
5402 Posts

Posted - 13 Dec 2005 :  11:07:53  Show Profile  Visit KnightErrantJR's Homepage Send KnightErrantJR a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The other thing to keep in mind is even within a plane, a god has control over their domain. Lolth could secure her "portion" of the Demonweb pits against Vhearun, unless called to the place by someone else. Selvetarm is Lolth's champion, more or less bound to her will, and thus likely has a "passcard" to come and go from the domain, especially to defend her.
Go to Top of Page

Crennen FaerieBane
Master of Realmslore

USA
1378 Posts

Posted - 13 Dec 2005 :  14:41:15  Show Profile Send Crennen FaerieBane a Private Message  Reply with Quote
And when Vhaeraun starts to "knock" on Lolth's door, I'm sure Selvetarm came running. Question, though, why would her domain allow a follower of Vhaeraun in, then? She most likely knew that his priests could allow him access - I'm surprised she didn't bar them from entering as well. I know she was weakened at the time, but it was still strong enough to prevent Vhaeraun, so why not his priests?

C-Fb

P.s. - Shouldn't there be a Spoilers tag on this?

Still rockin' the Fey'ri style.
Go to Top of Page

Kentinal
Great Reader

4702 Posts

Posted - 13 Dec 2005 :  14:59:05  Show Profile Send Kentinal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by CrennenFaerieBane

And when Vhaeraun starts to "knock" on Lolth's door, I'm sure Selvetarm came running. Question, though, why would her domain allow a follower of Vhaeraun in, then? She most likely knew that his priests could allow him access - I'm surprised she didn't bar them from entering as well. I know she was weakened at the time, but it was still strong enough to prevent Vhaeraun, so why not his priests?




In your home you notice an unwanted person trying to enter, you do not notice an unwanted insect.
Vhaeraun is much larger in power and has a divine aura, a mere Drow is much smaller in power and does not have a divine aura. The deities does not know all their followers and those that follow another instead. They are not that powerful.
Also if Vhaeraun can have false Priestess in his service while Lolth believes they serve her, it should not be too hard to pretend to be a Lolth follower with simalar tactic.

"Small beings can have small wisdom," the dragon said. "And small wise beings are better than small fools. Listen: Wisdom is caring for afterwards."
"Caring for afterwards ...? Ker repeated this without understanding.
"After action, afterwards," the dragon said. "Choose the afterwards first, then the action. Fools choose action first."
"Judgement" copyright 2003 by Elizabeth Moon
Go to Top of Page

Crennen FaerieBane
Master of Realmslore

USA
1378 Posts

Posted - 13 Dec 2005 :  18:10:05  Show Profile Send Crennen FaerieBane a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Good point. I just thought that she might have had a better warning system in place for invaders, especially at this very crucial moment in her divine history. If I were going to redefine myself and would be that vulnerable during those moments - I would make sure I was protected from all forms of invasion - even from the insects.

C-Fb

Still rockin' the Fey'ri style.
Go to Top of Page
  Previous Topic Topic Next Topic  
 New Topic  New Poll New Poll
 Reply to Topic
 Printer Friendly
Jump To:
Candlekeep Forum © 1999-2025 Candlekeep.com Go To Top Of Page
Snitz Forums 2000