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Naeryndam
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Posted - 27 Nov 2005 :  21:55:57  Show Profile Send Naeryndam a Private Message  Delete Topic
I'm considering basing a campaign in the Utter East. Seeing as how no sourcebooks have been written for any of the countries with the exception of Ulgarth, what would you people include? In the game blood and magic the characters and names seem almost nordic, which is unusual for such a hot steamy place so close to Zakhara and Kara-tur. Just looking for suggestions, what would you do?


jean-loup
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Posted - 27 Nov 2005 :  22:40:11  Show Profile  Visit jean-loup's Homepage Send jean-loup a Private Message
where exactly want to play?
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sleyvas
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Posted - 28 Nov 2005 :  14:59:11  Show Profile Send sleyvas a Private Message
Check Shining South. I think it has some info

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TomCosta
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Posted - 29 Nov 2005 :  22:52:41  Show Profile Send TomCosta a Private Message
You should do a search on these boards or the WotC boards. There have been lengthy discussions on the Utter East in the past.

The Utter East is the region between Zakhara and Faerun's Ulgarth, also known as the Five Kingdoms. The Five Kingdoms' natives are the Mar, a pseudo-Asian Indian-like people (which makes sense because the pseudo-Indians in Kara Tur are on the other side of the mountains). They were conquered by a mix of Northmen and Ffolk from the Moonshaes a long time ago. These conquers quickly fell to warring with one another's kingdoms, dragging in evil outsiders to do their bidding through giant portals they lost some control over.

The books appear in the apocryphal (that is not canon) Double Diamond saga of novels and Faces of Deception (which is canon and the main characters of which got some 2E treatment in Dragon Magazine way back). They also were the setting for an old video game, something with Blood in the title, which really had no Realmslore at all and is insiginficant ot the discussion.

As for what I would do. I would take the Mahasarpa web enhancement for the 3E Oriental Adventures and then talk on the invaders and the fiend engine/portals. You could maybe through some Yak Men in (can't remember which book they were updated in) too.

This region is not discussed in Shining South, though Ulgarth gets a fair amount of attention in the 2E Shining South and updating in the 3.5E Shining South.
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The Sage
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Posted - 30 Nov 2005 :  00:27:06  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message
quote:
Originally posted by TomCosta

You could maybe through some Yak Men in (can't remember which book they were updated in) too.
Yak Folk -- Monster Manual II.

The inclusion of Yak Folk in an Utter East environment is a great idea Tom! The way in which they are presnted in MMII would make it easy to translate them into the Utter East. And since there are mountains for them to inhabit in the region -- sheltered places for their tribal enclaves -- they already have a well-defined geographical location that can be used as a potential "homeland".

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The Sage
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And I'm locking this scroll, since the one in the Running the Realms section is actually the more appropriate area for this discussion. Please refer to it here:- http://candlekeep.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=5607

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