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Magus Rages
Acolyte
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 Posted - 26 Oct 2005 : 01:46:19
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Poll Question:
Hello everyone, I had just thought of a question and had been wondering for some time. All right, this poll asks all the scribes, veteran and elite scribes of candlekeep who you think is the best, most powerful, most superior spellcaster in the realms in terms of your own opinion, not based on some stats. A honest vote and honest reply is greatly appreciated, I express my thanks to all in advance. Thank you.
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
2965 Posts |
Posted - 26 Oct 2005 : 02:02:57
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| Awesome. Another version of this thread, this time with a poll and no discussion. I'll take the staggeringly old one with lots of lore in it, thank you very much. |
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Crennen FaerieBane
Master of Realmslore
USA
1378 Posts |
Posted - 26 Oct 2005 : 02:11:02
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Uhm - Go Szass Tam! Well, I have to vote that way, since he's my dog!
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Still rockin' the Fey'ri style. |
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Kianna
Learned Scribe
USA
155 Posts |
Posted - 26 Oct 2005 : 02:31:44
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| Szass-man rules! |
Huzzah! |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 26 Oct 2005 : 02:52:32
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| I voted Elminster, not only because of his levels , but also because of his experience, and the fact that his tempers the use of his powers with wisdom. |
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Crennen FaerieBane
Master of Realmslore
USA
1378 Posts |
Posted - 26 Oct 2005 : 02:58:54
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Removed at the moderators request.
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Still rockin' the Fey'ri style. |
Edited by - Crennen FaerieBane on 26 Oct 2005 03:07:34 |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 26 Oct 2005 : 03:00:58
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quote:
Originally posted by CrennenFaerieBane
Removed by moderator. :)
But...but...he didn't raise the Simbul.
And come on, you gotta admit El has more good qualities than bad ones. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time) |
Edited by - Kuje on 26 Oct 2005 03:08:57 |
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Crennen FaerieBane
Master of Realmslore
USA
1378 Posts |
Posted - 26 Oct 2005 : 03:03:07
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Sorry... I was joking about the Simbul, wasn't trying to start any false rumors.
And El does have more good qualities than bad, I admit. H
C-Fb |
Still rockin' the Fey'ri style. |
Edited by - Crennen FaerieBane on 26 Oct 2005 03:05:55 |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 26 Oct 2005 : 03:12:45
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quote:
Originally posted by CrennenFaerieBane
Sorry... I was joking about the Simbul, wasn't trying to start any false rumors.
C-Fb
I didn't think you were. :)
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"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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warlockco
Master of Realmslore
USA
1695 Posts |
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Skeptic
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1273 Posts |
Posted - 26 Oct 2005 : 04:35:50
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Is Alassra Silverhand the Simbul?
Btw, I would go for Larloch  |
Edited by - Skeptic on 26 Oct 2005 04:36:48 |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 26 Oct 2005 : 05:33:29
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Originally posted by Skeptic
Is Alassra Silverhand the Simbul?
Yes. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
--Richard Greene (letter to Time) |
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Darkheyr
Learned Scribe
264 Posts |
Posted - 26 Oct 2005 : 08:33:09
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Me!
And... /signed @Arivia. |
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Talanfir Swiftfeet
Learned Scribe
Finland
143 Posts |
Posted - 26 Oct 2005 : 08:48:31
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| Halaster would be the greatest if he only got his head together. |
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Misericordia
Seeker
Italy
66 Posts |
Posted - 26 Oct 2005 : 09:59:19
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| Karsus rules! Maybe not for a long time...but rulez! |
Omnia sunt communia. |
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Chosen of Moradin
Master of Realmslore
Brazil
1120 Posts |
Posted - 26 Oct 2005 : 12:15:57
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My vote go to Elminster. The old one is very wise in the use of the magic and of her other abilities...
Now... if Iolaum was in the list.... 
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Amraz one arm
Acolyte
Netherlands
42 Posts |
Posted - 26 Oct 2005 : 12:47:29
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| Ioulaum. By far. Not only was he the greatest genuis to come forth from the netheril empire. But he's still alive, kind of... |
"You smell human to me." |
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sabre
Acolyte
Turkey
47 Posts |
Posted - 26 Oct 2005 : 18:18:00
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| Unquestionably and undisputed,the most dangerous mage in the realms...Not because he is a marvellous talent in the "art",and also he is marvellous in the spinning webbed conpiracies of sinister drow city!!Ladies and gentleman i prensent you:Gromph Ba'enre The archmage of Menzoberranzan and first son of House Ba'enre!! |
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hooper101
Learned Scribe
USA
117 Posts |
Posted - 26 Oct 2005 : 19:53:30
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| Ahhh no Harkel Harpell! Come on! I voted El beacause he was able to help just about all the others in a problem of spellfire. Shandrel should have been on the list although shes not that sage. |
Die, die, die ,die, die, why won't you just die you silly dragon! |
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Forge
Learned Scribe
USA
218 Posts |
Posted - 26 Oct 2005 : 19:56:57
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| I voted Zass Tam cause Karsis isn't IN the Realms anymore, and ELminster has so much divine influence governing his spells and actions that he's hard to take serious as a straight mage. |
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khorne
Master of Realmslore
Finland
1073 Posts |
Posted - 27 Oct 2005 : 13:20:48
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quote:
Originally posted by sabre
Unquestionably and undisputed,the most dangerous mage in the realms...Not because he is a marvellous talent in the "art",and also he is marvellous in the spinning webbed conpiracies of sinister drow city!!Ladies and gentleman i prensent you:Gromph Ba'enre The archmage of Menzoberranzan and first son of House Ba'enre!!
Gromph? My impression of him is that Halaster or Elminster could squash him like a bug. |
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Rocheval
Acolyte
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Posted - 27 Oct 2005 : 19:46:51
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| I know were not supposed to respond, as its strictly a poll, but I chose curtain #2, the guy with the half-working Frigid-aire. Alassra, Karsus, Ioulum, and maybe Telamont have more in terms of raw power but El is the most cagey fighter of them all. He'll bend like a reed in the storm but will not break and then somehow turn your spells against you. Although, it was mentioned somewhere that Alassra could best both Mordenkainen and Elminister in a wide open spell battle! |
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warlockco
Master of Realmslore
USA
1695 Posts |
Posted - 28 Oct 2005 : 00:38:35
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quote:
Originally posted by Rocheval
I know were not supposed to respond, as its strictly a poll, but I chose curtain #2, the guy with the half-working Frigid-aire. Alassra, Karsus, Ioulum, and maybe Telamont have more in terms of raw power but El is the most cagey fighter of them all. He'll bend like a reed in the storm but will not break and then somehow turn your spells against you. Although, it was mentioned somewhere that Alassra could best both Mordenkainen and Elminister in a wide open spell battle!
Not sure about the 3E stats, haven't really looked at them.
But in 2E the Simbul was the most powerful of the Chosen. |
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Rocheval
Acolyte
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Posted - 28 Oct 2005 : 01:47:27
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| Maybe not only the the most powerful of the Chosen, but in Ed's own words, "Perhaps the greatest living human master of magic,..." Of course his words can be considered parsed that for one thing there were more powerful archmages before her time, and the phrase excludes any undead spell-casters or non-human ones that exist today. I don't have any 3ed products and I haven't played in a decade, but I hope the powers that be keep Ed's power hierarchy of archmages the same. |
"I will vanish into the night; change my body to wood or stone; sink into the earth and walk through locked doors. I will be killed many times, yet will not die" excerpt from Ninja No Chigri (Way of the Tiger series) |
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Crennen FaerieBane
Master of Realmslore
USA
1378 Posts |
Posted - 28 Oct 2005 : 02:01:39
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I don't believe that anyway - Halastar is easily a match if not greater than The Simbul.
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Still rockin' the Fey'ri style. |
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Kianna
Learned Scribe
USA
155 Posts |
Posted - 28 Oct 2005 : 02:08:54
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| But Szasser could take 'em both! |
Huzzah! |
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Rocheval
Acolyte
21 Posts |
Posted - 28 Oct 2005 : 02:25:22
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Well here is a snippet from a dragon article -I think- "Once More the Three" that was edited in the 2ed Seven Sisters accessory by Ed.
"I don't know if I approve of such secret meetings, and the magical knowledge that may from time to time inadvertently spilled in them," the Simbul said softly, looking around at the three mages.
"Its not your place,lady, to approve or disapprove," Dalamar said coldly, and the rings on his hands winked in unison.
Mordenkainen turned swiftly to him and said in a voice of cold iron, "No. Work no magic, if you would live."
Dalamar drew back. His eyes darkened as he asked carefully, "Are you threatening me?"
"No," said the mage of Greyhawk, in a voice whose silky menace matched Dalamar's own, "I'm trying to keep you alive, Dalamar. This Lady mage can overmatch you easily-I believe she could best any two of us, in wide-open spell battle. So belt up."
Now things might have been said differently if Halaster had been sitting at the table but I believe the Simbul would be in sheer terms more powerful than him. The Simbul seems to be more raw magic incarnate, and may even one day take Mystra's place, as she openingly defies Mystra and Azuth, as well as Ed and Khelben. |
"I will vanish into the night; change my body to wood or stone; sink into the earth and walk through locked doors. I will be killed many times, yet will not die" excerpt from Ninja No Chigri (Way of the Tiger series) |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6666 Posts |
Posted - 28 Oct 2005 : 03:00:11
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The best spellcaster in the Realms is obviously Kalithra "Silvertresses" Tormal. Why even the great Elminster himself has commented on how gracefully and beautifully she weaves her spells and 'grasps the Weave'. A real talent, he notes.
-- George Krashos
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 28 Oct 2005 : 03:50:32
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quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos
The best spellcaster in the Realms is obviously Kalithra "Silvertresses" Tormal. Why even the great Elminster himself has commented on how gracefully and beautifully she weaves her spells and 'grasps the Weave'. A real talent, he notes.
-- George Krashos
And where does this reference come from, Sir Krash? |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 28 Oct 2005 : 03:56:39
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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos
The best spellcaster in the Realms is obviously Kalithra "Silvertresses" Tormal. Why even the great Elminster himself has commented on how gracefully and beautifully she weaves her spells and 'grasps the Weave'. A real talent, he notes.
-- George Krashos
And where does this reference come from, Sir Krash?
Actually, I'm rather curious about that myself. The reference doesn't immediately come to mind, at least not in FR. I know of a character by the name of Silvertresses, but she belongs to the DRAGONLANCE setting.
Krash?
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6666 Posts |
Posted - 28 Oct 2005 : 05:53:11
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
And where does this reference come from, Sir Krash?
Oh, my noggin' really. I was just being naughty and in my own particular obtuse fashion telling posters that there is no 'right' answer to this kind of thread. But it's always nice to make up realmslore on the fly - I'll sneak Kalithra into the FR firmament, somewhere, somewhen; never you fear.
-- George Krashos
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