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Jamallo Kreen
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Posted - 22 Oct 2005 :  20:40:39  Show Profile  Visit Jamallo Kreen's Homepage Send Jamallo Kreen a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
In Sojourn Hephaestus boasts to Drizzt that he is "Destroyer of Cockleby" (with caps, mind you!). Who or what was "Cockleby," pray tell? "Angalander" was presumably a silver dragon, but unless "Ten Thousand Cattle" was also a dragon, "Cockleby" may be a place name.

Anyone?

Anyone?

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Posted - 22 Oct 2005 :  20:49:38  Show Profile  Visit khorne's Homepage Send khorne a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Jamallo Kreen

In Sojourn Hephaestus boasts to Drizzt that he is "Destroyer of Cockleby" (with caps, mind you!). Who or what was "Cockleby," pray tell? "Angalander" was presumably a silver dragon, but unless "Ten Thousand Cattle" was also a dragon, "Cockleby" may be a place name.

Anyone?

Anyone?

When I hear cockleby I start thinking about insane chickens for some reason.........though I doubt that is what Hephaestus meant.

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Thelonius
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Posted - 22 Oct 2005 :  21:44:22  Show Profile Send Thelonius a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yeah, the cockatrice has been my first impression, but about the question itself,... I am not sure what does it refers to...

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Talanfir Swiftfeet
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Posted - 23 Oct 2005 :  13:37:21  Show Profile  Visit Talanfir Swiftfeet's Homepage Send Talanfir Swiftfeet a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Cockleby is a funny word. I could keep saying Cockleby forever. Cockleby Cockleby Cockleby . Okay i'm done.
Cockleby Cockleby. I'm soooo nine years old(nine and a half next march).

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Anyway, back on topic...

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Kentinal
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Posted - 23 Oct 2005 :  18:37:56  Show Profile Send Kentinal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well search appears to indicate very few hits. I suspect the name is a person. There appears to be a Cockleby Park.
Also a breeder name Flecter develped the
"Cockleby Suffolk flock"

An old poem refers to "Cockleby’s Sow"

Off hand I would guess Cockleby’s Sow was used to add to word count. Google gave me 23 hits most refer to sheep.

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Xysma
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Posted - 24 Oct 2005 :  15:27:10  Show Profile  Visit Xysma's Homepage Send Xysma a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I always assumed it was a place name that I'd never heard of because it was destroyed.

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quote:
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I always assumed it was a place name that I'd never heard of because it was destroyed.



Oh it certainly can also be a place, however only one person, the author might knw about it. As far as it goes many places are named after people such as Cockleby Park *grin*.

It clearly was/is not a place and/or person well known in the Realms.

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"Caring for afterwards ...? Ker repeated this without understanding.
"After action, afterwards," the dragon said. "Choose the afterwards first, then the action. Fools choose action first."
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Jamallo Kreen
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Posted - 26 Oct 2005 :  00:39:39  Show Profile  Visit Jamallo Kreen's Homepage Send Jamallo Kreen a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Uhhh ... does anyone actually know the answer to the question?

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Kentinal
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quote:
Originally posted by Jamallo Kreen

Uhhh ... does anyone actually know the answer to the question?



RA Salvatore might know, he wrote it. Not sure anyone else does. It does not appear in any other place that I can find. One could try asking at his site or the ask him thread at candlekeep.

"Small beings can have small wisdom," the dragon said. "And small wise beings are better than small fools. Listen: Wisdom is caring for afterwards."
"Caring for afterwards ...? Ker repeated this without understanding.
"After action, afterwards," the dragon said. "Choose the afterwards first, then the action. Fools choose action first."
"Judgement" copyright 2003 by Elizabeth Moon
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Jamallo Kreen
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Posted - 26 Oct 2005 :  01:09:15  Show Profile  Visit Jamallo Kreen's Homepage Send Jamallo Kreen a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kentinal

quote:
Originally posted by Jamallo Kreen

Uhhh ... does anyone actually know the answer to the question?



RA Salvatore might know, he wrote it. Not sure anyone else does. It does not appear in any other place that I can find. One could try asking at his site or the ask him thread at candlekeep.


He has a scroll here? Where, prithee?

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Kentinal
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quote:
Originally posted by Jamallo Kreen

quote:
Originally posted by Kentinal

quote:
Originally posted by Jamallo Kreen

Uhhh ... does anyone actually know the answer to the question?



RA Salvatore might know, he wrote it. Not sure anyone else does. It does not appear in any other place that I can find. One could try asking at his site or the ask him thread at candlekeep.


He has a scroll here? Where, prithee?



http://www.candlekeep.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1889

I have not seen an answer from him recently, but he does have a scroll.

"Small beings can have small wisdom," the dragon said. "And small wise beings are better than small fools. Listen: Wisdom is caring for afterwards."
"Caring for afterwards ...? Ker repeated this without understanding.
"After action, afterwards," the dragon said. "Choose the afterwards first, then the action. Fools choose action first."
"Judgement" copyright 2003 by Elizabeth Moon
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Crust
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Posted - 30 Oct 2005 :  23:30:33  Show Profile  Visit Crust's Homepage Send Crust a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I had a similar sense of confusion when I was introduced to the bog bloke in the Hunter's Blade trilogy. What in Faerun is a bog bloke? Some distant cousin of the treant? Are we making up monsters as we go here?

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Jamallo Kreen
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Posted - 03 Nov 2005 :  21:47:48  Show Profile  Visit Jamallo Kreen's Homepage Send Jamallo Kreen a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kentinal

quote:
Originally posted by Jamallo Kreen

quote:
Originally posted by Kentinal

quote:
Originally posted by Jamallo Kreen

Uhhh ... does anyone actually know the answer to the question?



RA Salvatore might know, he wrote it. Not sure anyone else does. It does not appear in any other place that I can find. One could try asking at his site or the ask him thread at candlekeep.


He has a scroll here? Where, prithee?



http://www.candlekeep.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=1889

I have not seen an answer from him recently, but he does have a scroll.


Mercy buckets.

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Drakul
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Posted - 04 Nov 2005 :  05:56:06  Show Profile Send Drakul a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Crust

I had a similar sense of confusion when I was introduced to the bog bloke in the Hunter's Blade trilogy. What in Faerun is a bog bloke? Some distant cousin of the treant? Are we making up monsters as we go here?



I thought the Bog Bloke was mentioned in the Icewind Dale Trilogy. When the Companions of the Hall are in the Trollmoors and Wulfgar throws his hammer out of sheer instinct and hits one of them and the rest scatter.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 04 Nov 2005 :  11:40:55  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Drakul

quote:
Originally posted by Crust

I had a similar sense of confusion when I was introduced to the bog bloke in the Hunter's Blade trilogy. What in Faerun is a bog bloke? Some distant cousin of the treant? Are we making up monsters as we go here?



I thought the Bog Bloke was mentioned in the Icewind Dale Trilogy. When the Companions of the Hall are in the Trollmoors and Wulfgar throws his hammer out of sheer instinct and hits one of them and the rest scatter.



Indeed... But I believe the question was: "Where did these critters come from? There's no other mention of them anywhere that I know of."

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