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Kianna
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 Posted - 03 Oct 2005 : 04:22:01
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Anything? Ever? I have so much awesome Japanese music and no setting.
Actually I think it would be nice to get all those old 2nd Ed. settings in official 3E sometime. Makes me all nostalgic thinking about it....
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 03 Oct 2005 : 04:23:44
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| Dragon #315 updated it a little. :) |
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warlockco
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 03 Oct 2005 : 05:07:56
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Originally posted by Kianna
Anything? Ever? I have so much awesome Japanese music and no setting.
Actually I think it would be nice to get all those old 2nd Ed. settings in official 3E sometime. Makes me all nostalgic thinking about it....
If you truly are looking for a quasi-Japanese setting, then look at Rokugan.
Which is the setting for the Legend of the Five Rings CCG.
There is a Rokugan Campaign Setting book, and about a dozen or more sourcebooks for it.
It is published by AEG, who currently hold the license from WotC for the current Official Oriental Adventures Campaign Setting. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 03 Oct 2005 : 05:37:54
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Originally posted by warlockco
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Originally posted by Kianna
Anything? Ever? I have so much awesome Japanese music and no setting.
Actually I think it would be nice to get all those old 2nd Ed. settings in official 3E sometime. Makes me all nostalgic thinking about it....
If you truly are looking for a quasi-Japanese setting, then look at Rokugan.
Which is the setting for the Legend of the Five Rings CCG.
There is a Rokugan Campaign Setting book, and about a dozen or more sourcebooks for it.
It is published by AEG, who currently hold the license from WotC for the current Official Oriental Adventures Campaign Setting.
The more recent d20 tome for the Rokugan setting was a vast improvement over the earlier d20 Lot5R rules material. I picked it up a few months ago mainly because I've always enjoyed the Rokugan setting itself. I don't have any intentions on running a d20 Lot5R game, since my d6 version is working well as it is. Aside from that though, it's not something I'd combine with the Realms material... simply because the magical arts as they are in Rokugan, are considerably different when compared to the functioning of magic in the Realms.
Of course, there's nothing stopping an imaginative DM from using some of the more generalised Oriental-based material presented in the book for fleshing out a 3e conversion of the older KARA-TUR expansion.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 03 Oct 2005 : 05:45:25
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It's my understanding that Kara-Tur was originally not attached to any gameworld, and was only bolted on to the Realms because of TSR's policy of "everything is in the Realms!"
For what it's worth, I do see the boxed set pop up on eBay pretty frequently. I believe it's there now... And that's where I got my copy.  |
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warlockco
Master of Realmslore
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
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Posted - 03 Oct 2005 : 20:40:26
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
It's my understanding that Kara-Tur was originally not attached to any gameworld, and was only bolted on to the Realms because of TSR's policy of "everything is in the Realms!"
That's my understanding as well. Besides, the inclusion of Kara-Tur seems to follow the old cliche that the eastern reaches of a fantasy continent (no matter what the setting) MUST have a real world Asian-type culture. |
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Crennen FaerieBane
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 03 Oct 2005 : 23:05:42
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Well, we do have the box set - Kianna is just looking for more of an update for the paths between the known of Faerun and Kara-tur. And, Kara-tur did make it through the edition change, since it is mentioned in the FR products. I would not discount WotC bringing a sourcebook out on it - especially since they revisited the Asian classes in the "Complete" series.
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KnightErrantJR
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Posted - 03 Oct 2005 : 23:17:36
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| Well, one way or the other, Kara-Tur is officially part of the Realms. Otherwise, those barbarians Azoun fought were from "off the map." Not to mention all of the Shou ambassadors in the various major cities, the Shou expatriate region, and most recently the Kozakuran woman that is married to one of the Waterdhavian Noble House Patriarchs. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 04 Oct 2005 : 00:36:04
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| And there's a couple of other Kara-Tur NPCs in the Heartlands. Prince Tang is one, Ishi Barasume is another. |
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KnightErrantJR
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Posted - 04 Oct 2005 : 00:46:31
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 04 Oct 2005 : 02:27:58
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Let us not forget also the Shou Lung family of Kuang, who have been recently assembling expeditions to Faerun for the purposes of trading their unique dyed silks.
SOURCE: The Yellow Silk
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Kianna
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 04 Oct 2005 : 03:04:57
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Well, like it or love it its there int he Realms now.
I do have Rokugan and all the 2E stuff. I will have to go through Dragon again though, thanks for the tip.
But it's so nice to actually have something new and hardcovered and bound with love that I can flip through rather than running to my 2E horde in the back whenever I need something. I am a lazy DM... ;) |
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The Sage
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Posted - 04 Oct 2005 : 03:08:26
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That's why I like some FR products in PDF format. It makes it easier to find a reference in-game instead of having to leave the table to find the hardcopy of the tome itself.
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Kianna
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 04 Oct 2005 : 03:32:03
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True, but I am old-fashioned in that I like my tomes.
Though I did just create my X-cel D&D character sheet finally so I could move into the future of gaming (or I am just too lazy now-a-days to roll up my NPC's on paper....). |
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Crennen FaerieBane
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 04 Oct 2005 : 11:32:48
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I would vote she's just too lazy to roll them up anymore. 
I'm going to get flak for this.
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Kianna
Learned Scribe
USA
155 Posts |
Posted - 04 Oct 2005 : 14:13:38
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 04 Oct 2005 : 17:33:39
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Originally posted by The Sage
That's why I like some FR products in PDF format. It makes it easier to find a reference in-game instead of having to leave the table to find the hardcopy of the tome itself.
I've got all the free pdfs... I may eventually get the rest, for ease of searching.
You know, I have the 3E Oriental Adventures... But it didn't seem as interesting as the original one. I suppose part of that problem could be sheer prejudice: why did they pick a different Oriental setting to cover when they already had one?!?  |
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Crennen FaerieBane
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 05 Oct 2005 : 01:00:40
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I agree... I didn't like the 3E one because it seemed to focus too much on Rokugan rather than just explain, like the 1E one did, how to use asian-styled characters in your game. Kianna and I recently picked up a wonderful OGL book concerning Ancient Japan - goes through tons of classes, classes of citizens, history - whole loads of stuff.
If you are interested in using these in your games - check it out!
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warlockco
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 05 Oct 2005 : 13:05:52
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Originally posted by CrennenFaerieBane
I agree... I didn't like the 3E one because it seemed to focus too much on Rokugan rather than just explain, like the 1E one did, how to use asian-styled characters in your game. Kianna and I recently picked up a wonderful OGL book concerning Ancient Japan - goes through tons of classes, classes of citizens, history - whole loads of stuff.
If you are interested in using these in your games - check it out!
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Kianna
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 05 Oct 2005 : 15:04:26
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Its called Legend of the Samurai and its got a red cover. Its really neat if you are into the historical side of Japan. Its got new classes and spells and skills and feats. Very cool.
It isn't something I would use alone, but if you are into picking out great bits of info I suggest it. |
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warlockco
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Posted - 06 Oct 2005 : 06:50:32
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quote:
Originally posted by Kianna
Its called Legend of the Samurai and its got a red cover. Its really neat if you are into the historical side of Japan. Its got new classes and spells and skills and feats. Very cool.
It isn't something I would use alone, but if you are into picking out great bits of info I suggest it.
K, thanks, might have to look into that. |
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Gray Richardson
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Posted - 20 Oct 2005 : 02:07:37
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I just noticed that paizo.com has now entered the competition to sell pdf products. They have a slew of old 1e & 2e D&D pdf's for sale. Inlcuding the Kara-Tur pdf. They are only charging $4.00.
Kara-Tur Box Set PDF from Paizo
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Kianna
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 20 Oct 2005 : 02:25:34
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| Nice. So why again did I make Crennen pay all that money for old 1E and 2E books??? :) |
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 20 Oct 2005 : 02:50:43
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Nice. So why again did I make Crennen pay all that money for old 1E and 2E books??? :)
Because, like me, you two wanted the hard copies because reading online makes your eyes bleed. :) |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 20 Oct 2005 : 03:36:46
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| Yeah, there is nothing like having an actual book in your hands. |
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Kianna
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 20 Oct 2005 : 14:10:03
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Yes....I would say the advantage to books in book form means you can take it anywhere, you dont' kill your eyes, and you have somethingnice to put on the shelf.
In PDF form our dogs don't eat them, You can more easily cut and paste info into other docs, and you have room on your shelf for other things, such as the D&D movie parts 1 and 2.
AH...choices! :) |
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Crennen FaerieBane
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Posted - 20 Oct 2005 : 14:37:37
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Plus, having almost all the 2e and 3e books (along with every 2nd edition White Wolf book) makes the book shelf that much more impressive.
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warlockco
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 21 Oct 2005 : 03:19:42
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Originally posted by CrennenFaerieBane
Plus, having almost all the 2e and 3e books (along with every 2nd edition White Wolf book) makes the book shelf that much more impressive.
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Except when it comes to moving 
One reason I am perfectly content to live in my parents basement still. 5 book shelves which are 6'x4' full of books, and several other misc shelving full of books too. |
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 21 Oct 2005 : 03:43:54
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Originally posted by warlockco
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Originally posted by CrennenFaerieBane
Plus, having almost all the 2e and 3e books (along with every 2nd edition White Wolf book) makes the book shelf that much more impressive.
C-Fb
Except when it comes to moving
One reason I am perfectly content to live in my parents basement still. 5 book shelves which are 6'x4' full of books, and several other misc shelving full of books too.
I've got that in my living rooom... And yeah, it was a pain to move it all. I moved from a 2nd floor apartment to a 3rd floor apartment, and I carried all the books myself. |
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