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webmanus
Learned Scribe
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 Posted - 30 Sep 2005 : 16:11:59
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Hi folks,
I was looking at my 2nd edition FRCS (1996) maps and came to the conclusion that the Dersertsmouth Mountains are to be considered as either low or medium mountains. I have also been looking at my DM Screen Encounters in Faerűn booklet, and specially about the encounters with dragons. I have not yet though about what kind of dragons and the age of the dragons that might be found in the mountains, or foot hills.
Has anybody spent any time thinking about dragons in the Desertsmouth Mountains? Coming to any conclusion or decision?
Best regards,
webmanus
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
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Posted - 30 Sep 2005 : 19:15:40
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Sorta, since I'm reading Finder's Bane right now and it takes place in that area. 
Some dragons just like mountains and hills, so you could look at the tables in the back of the 3E FRCS (if you have it, if you don't, get it because it's useful) and see what monsters live in temperate mountain areas. From experience, some good bets are red dragons, copper dragons, and perhaps gold dragons. There might be other types though, like gem dragons--I don't know as much about them from memory though. As for the age of the dragons, I'd say all types. Use what you want.
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Edited by - Rinonalyrna Fathomlin on 30 Sep 2005 19:17:29 |
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Wooly Rupert
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Dargoth
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Posted - 30 Sep 2005 : 23:41:21
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| You may also want to check "The Greenwood files" as I asked him about Dragons in the Dalelands about 6 months ago or so |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 01 Oct 2005 : 20:20:21
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Forgot to mention...
If the mountains are high and cold enough, you might find white dragons there. Also, since there is a desert nearly, I wouldn't rule at blue or brass dragons in the westernmost reaches. |
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KnightErrantJR
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Posted - 01 Oct 2005 : 20:29:29
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| Hm . . . I've seen one on the Database that needs to be moved to another catagory . . . |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 01 Oct 2005 : 20:32:57
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| Also, technically the black dragon from BG2 could be marked as "dead", since in the game you have no choice but to kill him. |
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 02 Oct 2005 : 06:23:02
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Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
Hm . . . I've seen one on the Database that needs to be moved to another catagory . . .
I do believe that the database is a year or two out of date. Still, it's a good starting point, and an excellent resource. |
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webmanus
Learned Scribe
Sweden
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Posted - 02 Oct 2005 : 11:34:15
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Thanks folks!
Dargoth, I did search at the Questions for Ed Greenwood (2005), but did not find any "Dalelands Dragons" entry; it was quite tedious to search ... so, I could have missed one or two entries. Wooly, I did also take a look at the FR dragon database, but, did not find any dragon .. again, I could have missed one entry or two.
I have never thought much about dragons before. My campaigns have never been high level, and, I have left dragons out. Also, one of the reasons to leave dragons out have been to let dragons be special and very dangerous.
However, I am shifting my view, and with the existance of younger dragons, parties could met dragons of appropiate CR. But, populating, for example, the Desertsmouth Mountains with dragons require some thoughts ... how many of you would put 2,000 great wyrms in the Desertsmouth Mountains Having a red dragon that is great wyrm should be a big threat to the folks of, for example, Daggerdale. And, if there exists a red dragon of duch age in the mountains, that could be something that is known by many. A young red dragon should also be a threat, but one that could be overcome ... Maybe, a young dragon is more active and more of a menace than a great wyrm ...
I will take a look at by books, and any other material I can found. Still, if you have already suggestions on how to add a dragon or two to the mountains, and how those dragons could interact with the humans of the dales, please feel free to write.
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Dargoth
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Posted - 02 Oct 2005 : 12:15:04
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Ok heres what Ed gave me. Its from December last year
"Dargoth, you and George between you have nailed down the copper dragon locales west of the Dragonreach and south of the Moonsea. The Dales are pretty well scoured out (thanks to Zhent and Cult of the Dragon activities, and lots of warfare in recent decades) of copper dragons right now, what with the Thunder Peaks harbouring other sorts of wyrms.
If neither Glen nor the Desertsmouth Mtns will do, I'm afraid your PCs will have to look as far afield as the (foothills of the) Earthspur Mountains bordering the Vast, and the Orsraun Mountains, nigh Starmantle. I can't see much more than eggs and a few dragon hatchlings (in human or other custody and hiding) being found in the eastern dales, just now. (I am of course assuming your campaign isn't currently featuring The Rage, or the many armies in the field of the unfolding The Last Mythal trilogy.) However, the simple use of a gate (3e portal) can whisk that PC sorcerer to a copper dragon lair elsewhere in Faerűn. If you're feeling really generous, you could even give him the means to get whisked back home again. :} "
Incidently the Player whose wizard was looking for the Dragon Familar was killed by a group of Trolls on the way to visiting the Dragon lair.
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webmanus
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Posted - 02 Oct 2005 : 12:29:25
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OK, thanks. So, in one way ... no copper dragons in the Desertsmouth Mountains ... that is OK for me ...
After reading about dragons (AD&D MM, and D&D 3.0 MM) I see that I could put wyrlings and up to one young dragons without too much disturbance. For example, a red dragon of "young adult" age could have left some eggs and moved on. Also, a young dragon could recently establish a lair in the mountains. So, adding one or two young dragons is not difficult.
However, deciding wether an adult, old, or ancient dragon has had a lair for years in the mountains, that is another matter. To any DM who has put dragons and thoughts in the Dersertsmouth Mountains, please welcome to write suggestions and advice.
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Dargoth
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Posted - 02 Oct 2005 : 12:40:07
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George added the following
"There's Othauglarmar, an old copper he-dragon who dwells in the Desertsmouth Mtns, north of the Spiderhaunt Wood. He's a friend of Dove Falconhand - see "Seven Sisters", p.25" |
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webmanus
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Posted - 02 Oct 2005 : 13:17:07
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OK, thanks.
Do you know who is or was Aghazstamn? According to the 2nd edition FRCS map, there is a lair belonging to that "creature" ...
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Dargoth
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Posted - 02 Oct 2005 : 14:46:15
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Originally posted by webmanus
OK, thanks.
Do you know who is or was Aghazstamn? According to the 2nd edition FRCS map, there is a lair belonging to that "creature" ...
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Chosen of Bane
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Posted - 02 Oct 2005 : 15:27:39
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I just noticed an error in the Dragon Database, wondering who I should let know.
In the database it states:
Thauglorimorgorus, "The Black Doom", "Thauglor the Mighty" * M Ancient Black Storm Horns Slain by Iliphar Nelnueve, FRCS 113, The Complete Forgotten Realms Timeline
Thauglorimorgorus (aka the Purple Dragon) was defeated in single combat by Iliphar Nelnueve but not slain. He was slain many years later by King Azoun the First. |
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webmanus
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 02 Oct 2005 : 17:39:41
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OK, Spellfire. Yes, I did read that book many years ago. Thanks Dargoth.
Chosen of Bane, have you mailed the author (Erik Thornton -- maecenus@sss.org) of the database? Maybe, he is not active any more ... Maybe Alaundo can help ...
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