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kahonen
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
358 Posts |
 Posted - 06 Sep 2002 : 00:07:51
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It's been said that when Ed Greenwood first produced the Forgotten Realms, he based much of it on the real world.
My question is this:
Which countries in the Realms do you believe tie into the countries in the real world (please, no comments about the Realms being the real world  ).
My suggestions:
Maztica - South America (particularly Peru and Mexico)
Zakharra - Arabia
Evermeet - Ireland
Chult - Africa or Brazil
Kara-Tur - Japan
Shu-Lung - China
Anyone think of any others?
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ArcticKnight
Learned Scribe
USA
169 Posts |
Posted - 06 Sep 2002 : 00:53:21
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The North ~ being early England
Moonshaes ~ have a Scottish or maybe Norse feel to them.
Calimshan ~ seems to be Arabian in comaparison as well.
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Mask
Learned Scribe
104 Posts |
Posted - 06 Sep 2002 : 12:02:29
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| Mulhorand = Egypt? |
Nothing is impossible! |
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Solmyr
Seeker
Sweden
78 Posts |
Posted - 06 Sep 2002 : 12:09:48
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I would say that the isles of Waa make a better Japan.
The hordelands: Mongoliet (sp in english?) |
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king-tiax
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
327 Posts |
Posted - 06 Sep 2002 : 18:25:23
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| I would say places like the Icewind dales (In poticular the spine of the world)are like the Swiss Alps |
My name is Tiax, I would ask yours but I don't care to become aquainted with the dead.
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Arion Elenim
Senior Scribe
933 Posts |
Posted - 15 Sep 2002 : 15:46:50
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Well, I suppose you have to look at Faerun herself as the whole of the British Empire prior to the Revolutionary era (late 1700's-1800's) but with a cultural focus just prior to the Renassiance....
That's how I've always seen it...
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My latest Realms-based short story, about a bard, a paladin of Lathander and the letter of the law, Debts Repaid. It takes place before the "shattering" and gives the bard Arion a last gasp before he plunges into the present.http://candlekeep.com/campaign/logs/log-debts.htm |
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king-tiax
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
327 Posts |
Posted - 15 Sep 2002 : 19:48:44
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| What is the actural year in fearun. |
My name is Tiax, I would ask yours but I don't care to become aquainted with the dead.
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kahonen
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
358 Posts |
Posted - 15 Sep 2002 : 21:48:23
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Whenever you want it to be  |
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king-tiax
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
327 Posts |
Posted - 15 Sep 2002 : 21:54:02
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| Year, I mean, what is the year in like, the Time of Troubless |
My name is Tiax, I would ask yours but I don't care to become aquainted with the dead.
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Mask
Learned Scribe
104 Posts |
Posted - 16 Sep 2002 : 17:03:25
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| In 2nd ed. the official year was 1369 DR (Dale-reckoning). In 3rd. ed. the official year is 1372 DR, I think. The Times of Trouble were in the year 1353 if I remember correctly. |
Nothing is impossible! |
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king-tiax
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
327 Posts |
Posted - 16 Sep 2002 : 19:29:38
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| what year do you play. |
My name is Tiax, I would ask yours but I don't care to become aquainted with the dead.
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Solmyr
Seeker
Sweden
78 Posts |
Posted - 16 Sep 2002 : 22:01:35
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| Time of troubles was in the year 1358. |
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king-tiax
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
327 Posts |
Posted - 17 Sep 2002 : 20:07:53
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| So in our time thats, latemedevil, seems right. |
My name is Tiax, I would ask yours but I don't care to become aquainted with the dead.
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Mask
Learned Scribe
104 Posts |
Posted - 18 Sep 2002 : 07:44:31
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| Thanks Solmyr, I wasn't sure about the year the Times of Troubles took place. |
Nothing is impossible! |
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Mahonar
Acolyte
Italy
9 Posts |
Posted - 18 Sep 2002 : 14:56:06
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here's the FR countries as i see them compared to the real ones :P.
Maztica - south america
Evermeet - Tolkien-style ;)
Icewind dale - alaska, or Siberia :)
Tethyr - Spain
Cormyr - medieval France
Sembia - italy, and i'm a Sembian ;)
Amn - Portugal
Hordelands - mongolia
i agree with kahonen about the other ones :P
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Solmyr
Seeker
Sweden
78 Posts |
Posted - 19 Sep 2002 : 16:07:14
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Sound good to me.
I remember seeing a complete Realms to Real World Comparison before, but I cant remember where.
Maybe someone can help me? |
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kahonen
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
358 Posts |
Posted - 19 Sep 2002 : 20:23:39
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| They sound good to me too. Thanks for the input guys. |
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king-tiax
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
327 Posts |
Posted - 19 Sep 2002 : 20:28:17
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| Where would you place Thay. |
My name is Tiax, I would ask yours but I don't care to become aquainted with the dead.
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kahonen
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
358 Posts |
Posted - 19 Sep 2002 : 20:50:26
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Eastern Europe (East Germany, Poland, Chek Czeck Czheck Chezk Yugoslavia)- bear in mind the Realms were designed before the Iron Curtain came down. At the time most of the Eastern European countries were seen as evil because of their association with USSR. |
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king-tiax
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
327 Posts |
Posted - 19 Sep 2002 : 20:58:55
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| War, It changes lands. |
My name is Tiax, I would ask yours but I don't care to become aquainted with the dead.
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Mahonar
Acolyte
Italy
9 Posts |
Posted - 19 Sep 2002 : 23:32:12
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| Solmyr, i am quite certain that i read what you say in one of that 5 Forgotten realm Netbooks, i'm sure that you can find a copy of them in the library of Candlekeep ;). Thay? uhm...toooovarisch ZUlkirs :) |
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sushisauce
Seeker
USA
50 Posts |
Posted - 13 Nov 2002 : 03:33:57
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I have read few books but Candlekeep and the surrounding areas sound like Washington & s. Canada
Baldur's Gate sounds like New York/Canada region |
Normal is what we choose it to be. |
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lowtech
Learned Scribe
USA
315 Posts |
Posted - 13 Nov 2002 : 19:17:00
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| Chessenta=Germany (pre-1867), a warring collection of city-states and regions that are still recongnized by outsiders as one cultural group. |
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Bellua Aeneus Lacerta
Senior Scribe
USA
428 Posts |
Posted - 17 Nov 2002 : 14:06:04
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Would the City of Ravens be Paris??
City built on city on a city. |
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The Great Drizzt
Learned Scribe
USA
280 Posts |
Posted - 18 Nov 2002 : 08:16:18
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Calimshan would be like Arizona, Utah and So.Cal
The Great Drizzt |
"Don't poke Drizzt, 'tis highly unsociable!" Drizzt Do'Urden -BG1 |
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Mumadar Ibn Huzal
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 18 Nov 2002 : 11:08:38
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quote:
Originally posted by The Great Drizzt
Calimshan would be like Arizona, Utah and So.Cal
The Great Drizzt
Ehm... Calimshan definitely has a non-american character. It is more reminiscent of Northern Africa and the Sahara desert. |
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Lord Rad
Great Reader
United Kingdom
2080 Posts |
Posted - 18 Nov 2002 : 12:45:38
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What do you mean Mumadar?!? There isnt a world outside of America.....is there?! 
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Lord Rad
"What? No, I wasn't reading your module. I was just looking at the pictures"
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Mumadar Ibn Huzal
Master of Realmslore
1338 Posts |
Posted - 18 Nov 2002 : 13:46:14
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quote:
Originally posted by Rad
What do you mean Mumadar?!? There isnt a world outside of America.....is there?!
Sorry, i couldnt resist
Yeah, contrary to popular belief by some natives of the country wedged between the Pacific and the Atlantic, there is more then just their continent. On their map boundaries they use instead of "Here be Dragons!" the following versions:
"Here be Commies",
"Here be bad guys",
"Here be evil empires",
"Here be Al-Qaida",
etc.
Game related: That's one of the things I missed on the new Forgotten Realms map; these nautical symbols of fantastic creatures at the edges of the know world. Or signs of danger and shipwrecks in the appropriate areas in the Sea of Fallen Stars. (don't have the map in front of me, but I'm pretty sure they're not on there.) |
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Arion Elenim
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 18 Nov 2002 : 15:57:37
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To be honest, I don't think America really has a Faerunian counterpart......
I think of Waterdeep as London, Silverymoon as Rome, Calimshan as the Middle East, etc., but I don't think that the USA has much of a hold on the Forgotten Realms as far as a translation might go.... |
My latest Realms-based short story, about a bard, a paladin of Lathander and the letter of the law, Debts Repaid. It takes place before the "shattering" and gives the bard Arion a last gasp before he plunges into the present.http://candlekeep.com/campaign/logs/log-debts.htm |
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Mumadar Ibn Huzal
Master of Realmslore
1338 Posts |
Posted - 18 Nov 2002 : 16:41:39
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Culture-wise I agree with you. From a pseudo-medieval standpoint there is not much the history of the US can contribute, other than the tribal cultures of the native americans. Which might be reflected in some of the tribal groups that roam the plains of Faerun, or in the Terra Ingconita north of Maztica (sp?).
However from a geological point of view, I do think certain parts of the US and Canada have served as basics. The Sword Coast and Waterdeep do resemble the Seattle area and neighboring coastline to a certain degree. An there might be more... |
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Kitira Gildragon
Learned Scribe
USA
191 Posts |
Posted - 18 Nov 2002 : 16:48:33
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Originally posted by Mask
Mulhorand = Egypt?
Definitely! Where else would you find gods named 'Set','Osiris', and 'Isis'?
To Mumadar:
Contrary to what you might think, yes some of us do know that there is life outside our continent but that is not the way the majority thinks.(I know you are evil, though ) |
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Edited by - Kitira Gildragon on 18 Nov 2002 17:08:02 |
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Realms to Real World Comparison
