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khorne
Master of Realmslore
Finland
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 Posted - 19 Sep 2005 : 08:23:37
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Originally posted by Sir Luther Cromwell
Hhmm, gutbusters playing rugby.
Now THAT would be something to watch. |
If I were a ranger, I would pick NDA for my favorite enemy |
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ShadowJack
Senior Scribe
USA
350 Posts |
Posted - 19 Sep 2005 : 17:27:16
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How about the GutBusters doing a Mithril Hall promomtional tour in Waterdeeps Arena? That wouldn't last long...
Anyway, Here is my question. I posted this some weeks ago on the FR site forum with no responses. Do you sages think that a general Gladiator should be a PrC or its own fighter sub-class? Think of the old Swashbuckler Kits in 2E, and now, it is its own character class as put forth in Complete Fighter. Maybe the Gladiator class starts out as a general character much like a fighter, but with better base Attack Bonus than normal for a 1st level fighter. As a penalty he has to choose 1 type of weapon and armor to focus on... When the character gets to higher levels he can choose one of the gladiator PrC, such as Bestiarius, (such as Dorn from the Year of Rogue Dragon series) or several of the other historical Gladiator types. Redone to give them a strong Realms flavor... Sorry so long, What do you think? |
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Crennen FaerieBane
Master of Realmslore
USA
1378 Posts |
Posted - 19 Sep 2005 : 20:56:45
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Well, have any of you ever played the Games Workshop Blood Bowl? That was a good testament to fantasy and football. Any game where you could win by scoring more points OR killing the other team is ok!
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
5402 Posts |
Posted - 19 Sep 2005 : 21:04:50
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I think the variant gladiator class has some interesting points to it. I don't know that I would automatically give them a better base attack bonus though. Back when Dark Sun had its own gladiator core class, the gladiator automatically knew how to use all weapons, without having to take any proficiency slots, so if want to follow this tack, they might get a free exotic weapon.
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Crennen FaerieBane
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 19 Sep 2005 : 22:08:30
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And honestly a lot of the information in the 2ed Gladiators Handbook is still very useful for 3e games. I do miss them knowing how to use all of the exotic weapons though.
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Still rockin' the Fey'ri style. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 20 Sep 2005 : 06:09:36
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Originally posted by CrennenFaerieBane
Well, have any of you ever played the Games Workshop Blood Bowl? That was a good testament to fantasy and football. Any game where you could win by scoring more points OR killing the other team is ok!
C-Fb
I once played a game of Blood Bowl, and I had the card that said the ref wouldn't catch any attempts to Foul. I wound up killing three people on the opposing team, and wounding so many others that my opponent had to give up at the half-time -- he couldn't get enough people back on the field! 
But... that has little to do with gladiators, Thayan or otherwise.  |
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ShadowJack
Senior Scribe
USA
350 Posts |
Posted - 20 Sep 2005 : 19:12:47
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Pray thee, Learned Crennen, enlighten me...
Didst thou mis-speak, or was there really a Gladiators Handbook? Was it perhaps the Fighters Handbook thou speakest of... forgive my ignorance... |
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Misericordia
Seeker
Italy
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Posted - 20 Sep 2005 : 19:34:41
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| There was indeed a Complete Gladiator's Handbook, for use in Dark Sun. |
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Crennen FaerieBane
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 20 Sep 2005 : 20:02:14
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Oh no, 2ed - The complete Gladiator's handbook out of the DarkSun campaign setting - great info on weapons, types of matches and the arenas themselves. Very good reading, and thankfully not that campaign specific.
I think you may be able to d/l it, though other scholars might know those websites better than I.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 21 Sep 2005 : 02:38:25
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Originally posted by CrennenFaerieBane
Oh no, 2ed - The complete Gladiator's handbook out of the DarkSun campaign setting - great info on weapons, types of matches and the arenas themselves. Very good reading, and thankfully not that campaign specific.
I can certainly attest to that. The Complete Gladiator's Handbook was one of the shining lights of the 2e HANDBOOK series. A very well designed and thought out tome, good for all types of campaign settings -- even those based on historical real world eras. I've used most of the contents successfully in both my DRAGONLANCE campaign set during the days of Istar (and its famed Arena) and in my ancient world campaign series during the Golden Age of Rome.
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I think you may be able to d/l it, though other scholars might know those websites better than I.
Of course, you mean "legal" downloads  . As such, RPGNow.com has a PDF version of the CGHB available for download for a small fee.
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ShadowJack
Senior Scribe
USA
350 Posts |
Posted - 21 Sep 2005 : 03:14:10
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Thanks all for the great info! I will hasten to check out that download page. I fervently hope that the fee is small as my purse is light... |
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Thayan Gladiator? CoR?
