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Skeptic
Master of Realmslore
Canada
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 Posted - 04 Sep 2005 : 20:31:46
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Hi,
I was asking myself, how easily Oghma's temple (like the Font of Knowledge in Waterdeep) give access to their books/maps/scrolls, etc..
Here, I'm not talking about how much in gp they will ask, but to who they may refuse access to their librairies. Oghma's being a neutral deity, he accepts clerics from all alignement, so alignement of a knowledge seeker must not be a problem ?
Would it be more difficult for a cleric of a evil deity (like Bane), a drow wizard, or even a fey'ri sorcerer to get some critical knowledge from an temple's library than for an harper or a paladin?
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 04 Sep 2005 : 23:12:55
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I would say it depended on the information, and the apparent intent of the person asking for it. Sensitive information would be restricted to all, though. I'd think that various magics would be used to determine the nature of the requesting person, and that even if the intent was pure, unless they had a writ from someone high-ranking, the info would be limited.
A Banite, for example, wouldn't be given much info on the layout of Piergeiron's Palace. A paladin could get more info, but unless he bears a writ from Peirgeiron or from the Lords, he's still not going to get a lot of info.
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DDH_101
Master of Realmslore
Canada
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Posted - 05 Sep 2005 : 03:12:05
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Hmm... shouldn't Oghma's knowledge be open to all who desire to learn?
In Prince of Lies, Oghma gave Cyric the knowledge of a spell on how to seek out the soul of Kelemvor. The Lord of Knowledge hated Cyric but still handed over because that's part of his teachings that knowledge shall be shared to all. |
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warlockco
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 05 Sep 2005 : 04:25:40
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Originally posted by DDH_101
Hmm... shouldn't Oghma's knowledge be open to all who desire to learn?
In Prince of Lies, Oghma gave Cyric the knowledge of a spell on how to seek out the soul of Kelemvor. The Lord of Knowledge hated Cyric but still handed over because that's part of his teachings that knowledge shall be shared to all.
That was Oghma himself though.
His followers can be more "wise" on how they share the knowledge.
Look at Candlekeep, there are many sections that almost absolutely no one is allowed to peruse in, plus you have give donate knowledge to the Library to gain access.
Especially with access to things like Spellbooks and other Magical Knowledge.
The Monks aren't gonna let Bob the Wizard gain access to the books of mighty magics, just because he managed to find a copy of the Necronomicon as his donation.
The Monks do observe those that gain access to the Keep. Elminster's Daughter proved that. |
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Sir Luther Cromwell
Learned Scribe
Canada
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Posted - 05 Sep 2005 : 06:52:17
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Generally speaking, however, brigands and banite's have not the need or patience to bare with studying Oghma's libraries for longer than a quick glance. I would think that such individuals that we might not associate with having access to this knowledge do not have it not because of any restrictions laid down by oghma and his followers, but by the personalily of those individuals. A banite thinks "Just tell me how to kill Torm's priests, I don't need the whole bloody story". But that's the thing, Oghma being the keeper of knowledge would share too much of it, frustrating the banite. In which case, either the Banite storms out of the library knowing in his mind that 'swords work, books don't", or he turns on the libraries, thus eliminating his reading privaledges.
Oghma is available to all, it simply takes a special type of someone to trully make use of what Oghma has to offer. |
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DDH_101
Master of Realmslore
Canada
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Posted - 05 Sep 2005 : 07:16:42
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Originally posted by warlockco
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Originally posted by DDH_101
Hmm... shouldn't Oghma's knowledge be open to all who desire to learn?
In Prince of Lies, Oghma gave Cyric the knowledge of a spell on how to seek out the soul of Kelemvor. The Lord of Knowledge hated Cyric but still handed over because that's part of his teachings that knowledge shall be shared to all.
That was Oghma himself though.
His followers can be more "wise" on how they share the knowledge.
Look at Candlekeep, there are many sections that almost absolutely no one is allowed to peruse in, plus you have give donate knowledge to the Library to gain access.
Especially with access to things like Spellbooks and other Magical Knowledge.
The Monks aren't gonna let Bob the Wizard gain access to the books of mighty magics, just because he managed to find a copy of the Necronomicon as his donation.
The Monks do observe those that gain access to the Keep. Elminster's Daughter proved that.
But you aren't talking about Oghma's church. You are using examples like Candlekeep or Vault of the Sages, where it's not run by Oghma's clergy. Those places have much stricter policies. |
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