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Kes_Alanadel
Learned Scribe
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 Posted - 31 Aug 2005 : 03:37:18
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I'm pretty sure this isn't covered in the RAW anywhere, and I'm at a standstill on what to do.
Some of you may have seen my thread on WotC's board about my campaign, but for those that haven't here's a quick background........
Tifvus (my b/f's PC Wiz5/Lore8) due to a magical event, was ripped from the world of Greyhawk and literally dropped into Faerun. He now has some knowledge skills that no longer apply, ie:Knowledge(history, the planes, etc.). He has been in Faerun for almost 2 months, studying first at the Herald's Holdfast for a month, and is now in Silverymoon.
Here's what I need opinions on...how do we figure out ranks for his skills for Faerun? In the interest of "reality" we have both decided that he can't use his full 16 ranks of history knowledge, etc. for Faerun, because it is Greyhawk knowledge and he hasn't been here that long. On the other hand I don't want to nerf the amount of ranks he has, because he earned them. 
Any opinions on this are welcomed......I need all the help I can get
~Kes
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Edited by - Kes_Alanadel on 31 Aug 2005 03:54:56
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 31 Aug 2005 : 04:09:16
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I'd quarter or half his knowledge skills.... or give him a quarter or half circumstance bonus from his greyhawk skills that could be used on his new FR knowledge skills...... Or you could quarter or half the greyhawk skills and make them FR skills. I.E. 16 ranks in Knowledge history of Greyhawk could give him 4 to 8 ranks in Knowledge history of Faerun......
Dunno kinda hard to say. I'm assuming you are using the new cosmology as well? If you use the old one then it's not as hard to come up with an answer since Greyhawk's sphere was just one of the many spheres of the same cosmology but now it's a whole seperate cosmology. :) |
For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird
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Edited by - Kuje on 31 Aug 2005 04:10:38 |
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Kes_Alanadel
Learned Scribe
USA
326 Posts |
Posted - 31 Aug 2005 : 04:16:24
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I am only familiar with the 3.x version of FR, so yes we are using that cosmology. I have been looking up the older lore to fill in blank spots, but when I went looking at the shops that always had 2 or more shelves of 2e stuff, most was gone 
Right now, we are working with him using 5 out of his 16 ranks, and we talked about when he leveled up, that any ranks put in those skills are FR specific. We are wanting to keep it simple, but I don't have much hope for that. |
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 31 Aug 2005 : 04:53:34
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Originally posted by Kes_Alanadel
I am only familiar with the 3.x version of FR, so yes we are using that cosmology. I have been looking up the older lore to fill in blank spots, but when I went looking at the shops that always had 2 or more shelves of 2e stuff, most was gone
Right now, we are working with him using 5 out of his 16 ranks, and we talked about when he leveled up, that any ranks put in those skills are FR specific. We are wanting to keep it simple, but I don't have much hope for that.
Aye. If it was me DM'ing I'd just keep those five ranks and then when he leveled turn it into a different knowledge skill, which he could then add more ranks to while letting the greyhawk one lapse unless he returned to greyhawk. |
For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird
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Crennen FaerieBane
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 31 Aug 2005 : 14:40:21
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And you could always gradually just allow him his full use of the skills he has already - sort of like the more months he spends in the Realms, the more access he has to his full amount of skill points that he's spent. If his character just studies for months, he should be able to get his skills to the same level fairly fast. And since he is a high level character, you could always take him to Candlekeep and let him read there, or a library of Deneir.
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Kes_Alanadel
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 31 Aug 2005 : 15:30:27
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CrennenFaerieBane, that's kinda what we were working towards. Tifvus will probably be traveling to Candlekeep anyway....looking for information about an ancestor of his   . He has said that he wants to find a way back, so it really doesn't make sense to roll them over, unless I just keep track of the difference.
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Edited by - Kes_Alanadel on 31 Aug 2005 15:36:03 |
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Kes_Alanadel
Learned Scribe
USA
326 Posts |
Posted - 01 Sep 2005 : 06:04:27
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Thanks Kuje and Crennen for your help and comments. My b/f has pretty much decided that he wants to retire Tifvus, retro his arrival about 100 years, and have him just travel the Realms. He kinda wants to maybe run a campaign for Tifvus' son. So....if he does that, the whole story arc I had worked up would be done OOC, because of how he plays Tifvus. He doesn't want to RP through the learning proccess that it will take for Tifvus to get his skills back to what they are now. *sigh* So it looks like I'm starting all over with a new campaign.
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Crennen FaerieBane
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 01 Sep 2005 : 14:42:22
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Oh, I'm sorry to hear that! I had a player of mine do that mid-way through a campaign I had worked for weeks on. One game session, in like the 4 game session, he told the group he was bored of this character.
I can imagine in a one-on-one campaign (I run for my wife all the time), it is especially bad - but at least, you get to run a whole campaign in the Realms! 
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Kes_Alanadel
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 01 Sep 2005 : 15:33:40
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| Well, if it had only been weeks, I wouldn't be as bummed. I have actually been working on it off and on for months . I have a hard time comming up with campaign ideas, so this one was easy to work on because it already had a start with the transport and the learning. So I have no idea what to do for his son, and I also have a really nice staff, and quite a few ancient spellbooks that I'm not sure what to do with, (not going to give them to Tifvus like was originally planned). |
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Crennen FaerieBane
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 02 Sep 2005 : 02:36:21
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Well, is your b/f character's son going to be a wizard like his father? Then what you could do is start hinting about the quest to find these spell books in the early levels of his game. From there you could work him up to the level where he might be able to find the means (and a strong fighter buddy) to go get them. :)
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Kes_Alanadel
Learned Scribe
USA
326 Posts |
Posted - 02 Sep 2005 : 06:31:42
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Yes, he is planning on a wizard, but he wants to start off fairly high, because he doesn't really like the whole "learning proccess that low level characters go through. The staff and the spellbooks "belonged" to the ancestor. The arc was for Tifvus to work his way along the Sword Coast gathering info about the ancestor, and then travel to the ruined tower to find the stuff (and the Yuan-Ti that had taken up residence). I've been trying to think of another campaign, but it takes a while, lol. |
Ack! I seem to have too much blood in my coffee stream!
When did 'common sense' cease to be common? |
Edited by - Kes_Alanadel on 02 Sep 2005 06:36:27 |
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Crennen FaerieBane
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 02 Sep 2005 : 14:51:38
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Well, have his son start out around 4th level, on the cusp of having 3rd level spells... And you could always have his son take up the quest, because Tifvus always got sidetracked and now he is too wrapped up in Faerunian politics to have the time to track this ancestor's stuff down. You could also have it as his test to prove his ability to his father, your b/f's orig. character. Do any of these sound good, or am I just way off?
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Kes_Alanadel
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 02 Sep 2005 : 16:10:05
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| Those sound good . My b/f was talking about just having Tifvus become a teacher at the Lady's College in Silverymoon, so that might just work. Maybe have Tifvus be the resident "expert" on non-Toril worlds....hmmm. Thanks alot for the help, I haven't had alot of time to think about it lately with work getting ready to start again . |
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Crennen FaerieBane
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 03 Sep 2005 : 16:46:49
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No problem! That's what we're all here for!
C-Fb |
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Tifus Artwin
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 07 Sep 2005 : 21:53:22
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Ggggaaaaaaaa..... Put spoilers up next time Kes -.-
And I am willing to continue playing Tifus, or starting his son at low level, you had said that it was for a fairly high level character, and so I was just going to make his son at a higher lvl then normal.
At anyrate, I do wish to continue playing the story arc, weather as Tifus, or as his son, and as C-FB said, Tifus does have problemes with getting side tracked from time to time... Remember his Shop? Not to mentchion that he Loves to Teach, and to create magical Items. |
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Kes_Alanadel
Learned Scribe
USA
326 Posts |
Posted - 08 Sep 2005 : 05:49:44
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Gggghhhhaaaaaaaaaaa yourself....you shouldn't read my threads w/o asking first .
Just means that if we continue Tifvus...I'll just change some things
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Ack! I seem to have too much blood in my coffee stream!
When did 'common sense' cease to be common? |
Edited by - Kes_Alanadel on 08 Sep 2005 06:00:08 |
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Crennen FaerieBane
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 08 Sep 2005 : 14:55:18
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Welcome to Candlekeep Tifus!
This is why I don't let my wife check out this board... too many spoilers are spilled here! 
C-Fb |
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Tifus Artwin
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 09 Sep 2005 : 11:29:31
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Yea tell me about it, though I was pondering not saying anything and keeping it to myself, she would have gotten suspeciuos if Id started knowing what might be coming next in the game, something to date Im sad to say Ive yet to figure out how to be as ready as I should be as a player of over a decade, while she has only been playing for 2 and a half years, DMing even less. Ah well, keeps me coming back to the table.
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Crennen FaerieBane
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 09 Sep 2005 : 14:39:49
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Hey, that last remark makes the games worth their weight in gold. My wife and I run games for each other, and have been doing so for about 4 years. We both have our games fine-tuned to what we like, I have forgotten half the time what goes on in the group games that I run. Oh well, I think women are masterful GMs....
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Switching Primes (kinda long)
