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dylan de Vere
Acolyte
United Kingdom
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 Posted - 14 Aug 2005 : 17:39:47
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I've just had my interest rekindled in Dungeons and Dragons, how, I can't quite say, it's an age thing. I really haven't played for fifteen years and looking about this site is making my knees knock, there is just soooo much now.
Can someone enlighten me as to what in Sharess' name 'hardcore rules' are? The only hardcore I have come across in my somewhat sheltered life are films of a somewhat dubious nature How do they differ from ordinary rules?
Oh, the days of old when with happy fellows we did sit around a table, with books and paper and dice and go adventuring...........
until real life took over!
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webmanus
Learned Scribe
Sweden
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Posted - 14 Aug 2005 : 19:53:35
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Well met Dylan de Vere!
Yes yes, dubious stuff ... that is other stuff. The game, D&D, has had several versions:
1. ???
2. AD&D, 2nd edition
3. D&D, 3rd edition
4. D&D Revised, 3.5 edition
So, if you are going to purchase the latest game, that is, the latest rule books, then it is the version 3.5 that you are looking for. Now, at least since 2nd edition, there are three primary rule books, three mandatory rule books, three core rule books, and these rule books are:
1. Player's Handbook
2. Dungeon Master's Guide
3. Monster Manual
I hope this helps,
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webmanus
Learned Scribe
Sweden
338 Posts |
Posted - 14 Aug 2005 : 19:54:54
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| By the way ... if the above is not "hardcore rules", then I am as lost as you ... |
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Faraer
Great Reader
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Posted - 14 Aug 2005 : 20:24:40
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I don't think the term 'hardcore rules' is used often on this forum. You may be referring to a series of modifications to the Neverwinter Nights computer game that make it a little more like D&D and a world and a little less like an arcade game.
webmanus, there are several versions of D&D in the 15 years of the game up to 1989: the original D&D boxed set of small booklets, AD&D, and in parallel with AD&D the Basic/Expert/Companion/Masters/Immortals version of (non-A)D&D which was pitched as a more freeform game to AD&D's formalized one, and which appeared in several versions. |
Edited by - Faraer on 14 Aug 2005 20:25:30 |
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webmanus
Learned Scribe
Sweden
338 Posts |
Posted - 14 Aug 2005 : 20:32:56
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| OK. I think that I saw advertisement to D&D (1st edition?!?) in Kalle Anka (Donald Duck) magazine when I was a yound lad ... Years later, I bought AD&D (2nd edition). Did never love (but liked) the system ... specially the minute long combat rounds and the "reversed" THAC0/AC-system. 3rd version is just super, I really love it, and I assume that 3.5 is quite better. |
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Gray Richardson
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 14 Aug 2005 : 20:49:01
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Perhaps you mean "core" rules? Core rules would be the 3 main books--the Players Handbook, Monster Manual and DMG--and any other sourcebooks which are considered setting neutral and not variant or optional.
Rules that are linked to a setting such as Forgotten Realms or Eberron would not be considered "core" nor would such variant or optional rules like those found in Unearthed Arcana.  |
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Mournblade
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 14 Aug 2005 : 21:13:40
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| Ah yes the 1st edition. Unwieldy rules indeed but they are about as classic as a '65 Stingray. Don't use them anymore, but I always pull those books out for inspiration. |
A wizard is Never late Frodo Baggins. Nor is he Early. A wizard arrives precisely when he means to... |
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Kentinal
Great Reader
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Posted - 14 Aug 2005 : 21:44:00
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Originally posted by dylan de Vere
Can someone enlighten me as to what in Sharess' name 'hardcore rules' are? The only hardcore I have come across in my somewhat sheltered life are films of a somewhat dubious nature How do they differ from ordinary rules?
You question is indeed vauge. If you are seeking sex expansionions there have been fan based ones. There also can be non sex "down and dirty" rules that are offered as xpansions.
15 years ago would indicate that you most likely played 2nd Edition AD&D or RC (BD&D) unless you used older editions as used products.
It also might be useful to better asnwer your question as to where you came acrose the term "hardcore rules" in context. |
"Small beings can have small wisdom," the dragon said. "And small wise beings are better than small fools. Listen: Wisdom is caring for afterwards."
"Caring for afterwards ...? Ker repeated this without understanding.
"After action, afterwards," the dragon said. "Choose the afterwards first, then the action. Fools choose action first."
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dylan de Vere
Acolyte
United Kingdom
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Posted - 14 Aug 2005 : 22:26:44
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I did indeed play 2nd edition. I meant nothing unsavoury by my question, my tongue was firmly in cheek. I have found one of the mentions of 'hardcore'....
Shadows of the Sword Coast, or SotSC, is a hardcore PW with a custom scripted rules system which is unique in the NWN community.(posted by VampZyc 28.07.05) |
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Faraer
Great Reader
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Posted - 14 Aug 2005 : 22:44:11
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| That's the sense I suggested, then. 'PW' is a persistent world. None of this has anything directly to do with the Realms or D&D, though. |
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Mournblade
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 15 Aug 2005 : 02:08:14
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Far too many abbreviations...
PW=Persistent World? If that is correct, does Persistent world mean you can play it in all the time or does it mean something else. I am assuming sword coast was a mod.
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Obviously been away too long!
