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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 21 Aug 2005 :  18:20:55  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I repeat: let's stay on topic.

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Ethriel
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USA
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Posted - 21 Aug 2005 :  19:49:35  Show Profile  Visit Ethriel's Homepage Send Ethriel a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Hmm...of those choices: Evermeet. However, it's not without its flaws. There will be some major lackings of closure.
As for El in hell..yes, I got the entire plot of the book and wouldn't have minded it if the characters were interesting to read or vaguely interesting. With slight alterations, all of them are practically the same person (The scene where Mirt asks the prostitute if she became aworking girl due to /loneliness?/ I'm sorry, that's sick)

Temptation is average and City of Ravens...can't give a good view on that
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webmanus
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Sweden
338 Posts

Posted - 21 Aug 2005 :  20:16:31  Show Profile  Visit webmanus's Homepage Send webmanus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well, folks, it is Evermeet then. Actually, I am at the moment reading The Sapphire Crescent, and it is getting better and better. But, when I am ready with that book, I will you for that 490 pages long Evermeet. I will keep the poll open, to see how much Evermeet rocks over City of Ravens.

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hammer of Moradin
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Posted - 22 Aug 2005 :  05:39:57  Show Profile  Visit hammer of Moradin's Homepage Send hammer of Moradin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have to go with Evermeet given the choices. Not bad choices, its just that so many good novels have been released in the past few years!

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Faramicos
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Denmark
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Posted - 22 Aug 2005 :  14:44:20  Show Profile  Visit Faramicos's Homepage Send Faramicos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Agreed... We are in somewhat of a luxury-problem... With all the new and interesting novels being published, it can be hard to choose... Only one thing to do. Get buying an get reading...

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Paec_djinn
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Posted - 22 Aug 2005 :  15:55:29  Show Profile  Visit Paec_djinn's Homepage Send Paec_djinn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Get buying an get reading...

Exactly, I'm usually not much swayed by reviews and advise unless there's like a major hype about it (like Forsaken House). But nonetheless, I've got a list in my head of what are some of the potential books I would want to buy and if it's bad, it's bad. Life goes on. Obviously it'll be better if it was good but what's the fun in that?
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Smyther
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Canada
121 Posts

Posted - 22 Aug 2005 :  19:30:47  Show Profile  Visit Smyther's Homepage Send Smyther a Private Message  Reply with Quote
While not pertaining precisely to the poll, I was wondering about a certain 'Book to Read.' I've heard some great reviews of the Erevis Cale trilogy, including that it's a little darker than normal realms books (a plus for me), and that the author was thinking of including psionics in the third book (a big plus). I was just wondering if the trilogy can be read without reading the Sembia series, or indeed any prior knowledge of Cale.
Perhaps this trilogy could also be suggested for webmanus to get and read.

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Josh Davids
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Posted - 23 Aug 2005 :  01:49:05  Show Profile  Visit Josh Davids's Homepage Send Josh Davids a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Smyther yeah you can read then without first reading the Sembia series, I did and I didn’t have a single problem loving these books.

It is darker then normal in some aspects, uses psionics in the first two books actually, and well I can’t wait till the last in the series is out.

Personally number one spot for FR authors is tied for me for Ed/Elaine and number two is Paul which makes me trying right now to track down the Sembia series to read more of his work. right now those are the only three authors that I *WILL* buy a hard cover book from no matter the price without ever waiting for it to come down.
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Paec_djinn
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Posted - 23 Aug 2005 :  02:25:52  Show Profile  Visit Paec_djinn's Homepage Send Paec_djinn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I would recommend the Sembia series to you. I don't think there'll be much trouble caused by reading the EC trilogy without the Sembia books but it'll definitely be a huge plus to read them also. This is because IMO, the Sembia series has to be one of the best series of books.
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The Sage
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Posted - 23 Aug 2005 :  02:42:46  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Smyther

While not pertaining precisely to the poll, I was wondering about a certain 'Book to Read.' I've heard some great reviews of the Erevis Cale trilogy, including that it's a little darker than normal realms books (a plus for me), and that the author was thinking of including psionics in the third book (a big plus). I was just wondering if the trilogy can be read without reading the Sembia series, or indeed any prior knowledge of Cale.
Certainly, reading the most relevant books in the 'Sembia' series (with regard to Erevis Cale) would be your best bet. It is not necessary to read the entire series for you to enjoy the Cale trilogy, but it definitely makes the ride "more enjoyable".

As it is though, it's only really "necessary" to read Cale's short story in Halls of Stormweather and his first solo novel Shadow's Witness. There was also some fiction in Dragon that focused on Cale -- you might want to hunt down those issues as well.

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webmanus
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Sweden
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Posted - 23 Aug 2005 :  19:39:32  Show Profile  Visit webmanus's Homepage Send webmanus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sorry, which books were about psionics?

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Paec_djinn
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Posted - 24 Aug 2005 :  06:15:09  Show Profile  Visit Paec_djinn's Homepage Send Paec_djinn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think Smyther was referring to Midnight's Mask, the third book in the Erevis Cale trilogy. If you were asking which book has them though, Lisa Smedman's trilogy features them.
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Asgetrion
Master of Realmslore

Finland
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Posted - 28 Aug 2005 :  00:24:08  Show Profile  Visit Asgetrion's Homepage Send Asgetrion a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well met!

IMHO if you already have read Elminster: The Making of a Mage, then I'd warmly recommend The Temptation of Elminster. Evermeet is also a must-read for any Realms fan

"What am I doing today? Ask me tomorrow - I can be sure of giving you the right answer then."
-- Askarran of Selgaunt, Master Sage, speaking to a curious merchant, Year of the Helm
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webmanus
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Sweden
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Posted - 28 Aug 2005 :  15:21:18  Show Profile  Visit webmanus's Homepage Send webmanus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks Agetrion,

I have read Elminster: The Making of a Mage. However, I took a second trip to the bookshop and got one Elminster in Myth Drannor. So, with time, I think that I would go for that one first.

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webmanus
Learned Scribe

Sweden
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Posted - 28 Aug 2005 :  15:34:48  Show Profile  Visit webmanus's Homepage Send webmanus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
So, if I understand the following:
quote:
It is darker then normal in some aspects, uses psionics in the first two books actually, and well I can’t wait till the last in the series is out.
Then, psionics appear in Venom's Taste and Viper’s Kiss (House of Serpents trilogy).

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Tremaine
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Posted - 28 Aug 2005 :  16:23:32  Show Profile Send Tremaine a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yep and there are very good fun Reads go and check em out if you like psionics
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webmanus
Learned Scribe

Sweden
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Posted - 28 Aug 2005 :  17:16:19  Show Profile  Visit webmanus's Homepage Send webmanus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
OK, thanks. But, one question. Are the psionics kind of humans with levels in classes such as Psion and Psychich Warrior, or are the psionics yuan-ti like creatures? I would like to read a novel about a human Psion or Psychich Warrior.

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Smyther
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Canada
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Posted - 28 Aug 2005 :  20:33:40  Show Profile  Visit Smyther's Homepage Send Smyther a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The House of Serpents trilogy apparently focuses on psionics in yuan-ti (but I'd assume from what I've heard that the psionics are also in humans).
The quote you were specifically referring to is RE the Erevis Cale trilogy. It is dark and has psionics (and I also believe H of Serpents is also dark), and I'm definately checking it out after a bit of Sembia action.
Don't know if I'll go fo HoS, as I've never really been a big fan of yuan-ti or that area of the Vilhon. If I had the money, maybe...

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Kajehase
Great Reader

Sweden
2104 Posts

Posted - 28 Aug 2005 :  21:01:31  Show Profile Send Kajehase a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by webmanus

OK, thanks. But, one question. Are the psionics kind of humans with levels in classes such as Psion and Psychich Warrior, or are the psionics yuan-ti like creatures? I would like to read a novel about a human Psion or Psychich Warrior.

/Web



If you take a second trip to SF-bokhandeln and pick up Venom's Taste and Viper's Kiss you'll get just that (not that the class is ever stated as such - thank ye gods - and if they're out of them, tell them you know for a fact that their Göteborg branch has them in (well have had them in every time I've been there since a month after Viper's Kiss's release).

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webmanus
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Sweden
338 Posts

Posted - 28 Aug 2005 :  21:42:35  Show Profile  Visit webmanus's Homepage Send webmanus a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Perfect!

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khorne
Master of Realmslore

Finland
1073 Posts

Posted - 29 Aug 2005 :  09:07:15  Show Profile  Visit khorne's Homepage Send khorne a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Kajehase

quote:
Originally posted by webmanus

OK, thanks. But, one question. Are the psionics kind of humans with levels in classes such as Psion and Psychich Warrior, or are the psionics yuan-ti like creatures? I would like to read a novel about a human Psion or Psychich Warrior.

/Web



If you take a second trip to SF-bokhandeln and pick up Venom's Taste and Viper's Kiss you'll get just that (not that the class is ever stated as such - thank ye gods - and if they're out of them, tell them you know for a fact that their Göteborg branch has them in (well have had them in every time I've been there since a month after Viper's Kiss's release).

The main character in HOS, is he a psion or psychic warrior?

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Kajehase
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Sweden
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Posted - 29 Aug 2005 :  13:31:24  Show Profile Send Kajehase a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Like I said, it's not stated out right in the book, and until I've gotten the rulebook for it I can't really say so myself. Me I'd put him down as an Expert/Rogue/Psionic of some kind.

There is a rumour going around that I have found god. I think is unlikely because I have enough difficulty finding my keys, and there is empirical evidence that they exist.
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Alisttair
Great Reader

Canada
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Posted - 10 Mar 2006 :  13:50:09  Show Profile  Visit Alisttair's Homepage Send Alisttair a Private Message  Reply with Quote
True there are only few of the Elminster series novels that are good. Horselords in the Empires trilogy is great if you like drinking horse milk and getting chunks in there. YUM!!

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atlas689
Learned Scribe

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Posted - 29 Apr 2006 :  18:04:43  Show Profile  Visit atlas689's Homepage Send atlas689 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Evermeet!!! that book is SO good! trust me read that!
-Atlas

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koz
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USA
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Posted - 23 Jan 2007 :  08:13:23  Show Profile  Visit koz's Homepage Send koz a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I have only read The City of Ravens but I can't reccomend it enough. It is my favorite Realms novel. Great story, plot and characters.
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