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Karzak
Learned Scribe
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 Posted - 14 May 2008 : 23:35:36
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Originally posted by BEAST
Guenhwyvar's gender remains male in all three books, even in the latest Lockwood-covered "The Legend of Drizzt" editions.
Oh pish, we all know Guen is a hermaphroditic astral panther. That makes all the Drizzt/Guenhwyvar romance fanfic that much more interesting, don't you think? |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 15 May 2008 : 01:18:21
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Originally posted by Karzak
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Originally posted by BEAST
Guenhwyvar's gender remains male in all three books, even in the latest Lockwood-covered "The Legend of Drizzt" editions.
Oh pish, we all know Guen is a hermaphroditic astral panther. That makes all the Drizzt/Guenhwyvar romance fanfic that much more interesting, don't you think?
That can't be nearly as funny as Sunrise and Sunset, the amazing gender-bending pegasi (pegasuses?) from The Hunter's Blade trilogy and The Orc King. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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BEAST
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 16 May 2008 : 18:01:01
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Originally posted by Karzak
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Originally posted by BEAST
Guenhwyvar's gender remains male in all three books, even in the latest Lockwood-covered "The Legend of Drizzt" editions.
Oh pish, we all know Guen is a hermaphroditic astral panther. That makes all the Drizzt/Guenhwyvar romance fanfic that much more interesting, don't you think?
Well, yeah, but I thought they were trying to fix him/it/her in the newer editions. 
Must be all the frog DNA in the Realms (ala Jurassic Park).
So is that what they mean when they call Lloth a Goddess of Chaos?
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Guenhwyvar - Al: AC/DC (draft Forgotten Realms Campaign Setting, 4E)
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
That can't be nearly as funny as Sunrise and Sunset, the amazing gender-bending pegasi (pegasuses?) from The Hunter's Blade trilogy and The Orc King.
Indeed. First, the pegs' genders matched their elven riders.
Then, they were both male. 
Lastly, the pegs' genders ended up completely reversed from their original set-up, so that they matched the genders of their new riders.
I am reminded of Bruenor's migrating/missing eye . . . 
I suppose he could just take it out and move it around at will, like Jarlaxle and his patch!  |
"'You don't know my history,' he said dryly."
--Drizzt Do'Urden (The Pirate King, Part 1: Chapter 2)
<"Comprehensive Chronology of R.A. Salvatore Forgotten Realms Works"> |
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Joldo
Acolyte
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Posted - 14 Jun 2008 : 15:59:50
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Hello, I'm new to the forum (and the forgotten realms novels). After playing alot of the forgotten realms PC games over the last few years (Baldur's Gate 1+ 2, Icewind Dale, Neverwinter Nights) I have become fascinated with the forgotten realms and now want to start reading the novels  .
After deciding to start reading the novels I came upon this thread (which has been a great help), and after reading it I bought myself a copy of Spellfire and Azure Bonds. I am very much looking forward to reading them when i get the time but I'm not sure which order to read them in. Should i read one book first as the other has refereances to it? Also I'm not sure whether i should read all 3 books from one series before moving onto the other.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 15 Jun 2008 : 13:16:47
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Originally posted by Joldo
Hello, I'm new to the forum (and the forgotten realms novels). After playing alot of the forgotten realms PC games over the last few years (Baldur's Gate 1+ 2, Icewind Dale, Neverwinter Nights) I have become fascinated with the forgotten realms and now want to start reading the novels .
After deciding to start reading the novels I came upon this thread (which has been a great help), and after reading it I bought myself a copy of Spellfire and Azure Bonds. I am very much looking forward to reading them when i get the time but I'm not sure which order to read them in. Should i read one book first as the other has refereances to it? Also I'm not sure whether i should read all 3 books from one series before moving onto the other.
Any advice would be great.
Welcome, Joldo!
Neither of those books has any references to the other.
In general, I think it's better to read all books from a particular series before moving on to the next.
Azure Bonds is a particular fave of mine. I recently reread that one and the rest of the books by the same authors (Wyvern's Spur, Song of the Saurials, Masquerades, Finder's Bane, and Tymora's Luck). Wyvern's Spur and Song of the Saurials are books 2 and 3 of the Finder's Stone Trilogy; Azure Bonds is the first. Masquerades is kind of a stand-alone sequel to the trilogy. Finder's Bane and Tymora's Luck are books 1 and 3 of the Lost Gods trilogy. Book 2, Fistandantilus Returns, is a Dragginglance book and only advances the trilogy by introducing a single new character -- and since he's a kender, his backstory isn't all that important. |
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Joldo
Acolyte
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Posted - 23 Jun 2008 : 00:37:52
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I have read Azure Bonds and very much enjoyed it , definatly a good book to start with. The next book The Wyvern's Spur should be with me tommorow and I look forward to getting stuck into it.
After finishing The Finder's Stone trilogy I plan to move onto Shandrils Saga (as I already own a copy of spellfire) and after that The Icewind Dale Trilogy (as I want to read about Drizzt
) . Perhaps I will read Masquerades before leaving the The Finder's Stone trilogy. Though i think i may be getting a bit ahead of myself.
Thanks for the reply/advice Wooly.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 23 Jun 2008 : 03:12:27
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Originally posted by Joldo
I have read Azure Bonds and very much enjoyed it , definatly a good book to start with. The next book The Wyvern's Spur should be with me tommorow and I look forward to getting stuck into it.
After finishing The Finder's Stone trilogy I plan to move onto Shandrils Saga (as I already own a copy of spellfire) and after that The Icewind Dale Trilogy (as I want to read about Drizzt
) . Perhaps I will read Masquerades before leaving the The Finder's Stone trilogy. Though i think i may be getting a bit ahead of myself.
Thanks for the reply/advice Wooly.
Well, Masquerades is a sequel to the Finder's Stone trilogy, so I'd hold off on reading it until after you've read Song of the Saurials. |
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Lorix
Acolyte
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Posted - 08 Sep 2008 : 20:14:41
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Hello to everyone!!!
I'm a newcomer to the fantas(y)tic World of FORGOTTEN REALMS !!!
For a long time I've been looking for some good 'help' with FR novels, and now (thanks to Google) I've been captured by this fantastic site!
Well, this topic is the PERFECT incarnation of what I was looking for.
I've read many pages of it (not all) and realized that my choice is not so bad: I'm Italian (so excuse me for my not-so-perfect English ), I live in Italy and here arrives just a small part of the HUGE amount of FR books, most of all are Salvatore's and Greenwood's ones.
So, I chose to start with "THE ICEWIND DALE TRILOGY" (whose title in Italy is something like "The Lost Lands Trilogy" ) and I'm in love with it!
I've read just few chapters from "The Crystal Shard" (in Italy "The Ice Lands"...) and that's a good start!!! |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 08 Sep 2008 : 22:12:29
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Welcome, Lorix!
Don't worry about your English. You're not the only one here whose mother tongue isn't English... And some of us who do have it for a mother tongue still flub it.
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Lorix
Acolyte
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Posted - 08 Sep 2008 : 23:43:23
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The Red Walker
Great Reader
USA
3567 Posts |
Posted - 09 Sep 2008 : 01:57:34
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Originally posted by Lorix
Hello to everyone!!!
I'm a newcomer to the fantas(y)tic World of FORGOTTEN REALMS !!!
For a long time I've been looking for some good 'help' with FR novels, and now (thanks to Google) I've been captured by this fantastic site!
Well, this topic is the PERFECT incarnation of what I was looking for.
I've read many pages of it (not all) and realized that my choice is not so bad: I'm Italian (so excuse me for my not-so-perfect English ), I live in Italy and here arrives just a small part of the HUGE amount of FR books, most of all are Salvatore's and Greenwood's ones.
So, I chose to start with "THE ICEWIND DALE TRILOGY" (whose title in Italy is something like "The Lost Lands Trilogy" ) and I'm in love with it!
I've read just few chapters from "The Crystal Shard" (in Italy "The Ice Lands"...) and that's a good start!!!
Welcome and glad you found us! Feel free to ask anything, someone here(most likely several) will have you an answer! |
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"We need men who can dream of things that never were." -
John F. Kennedy, speech in Dublin, Ireland, June 28, 1963
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Calen
Acolyte
Canada
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Posted - 19 Dec 2008 : 01:54:53
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 22 Dec 2008 : 20:48:13
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| Since you said any reading material, my first recommendation would have to be Grand History of the Realms. |
"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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Fillow
Master of Realmslore
France
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lelorien
Acolyte
Canada
41 Posts |
Posted - 27 Dec 2008 : 00:17:35
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Lord Karsus
Great Reader
USA
3741 Posts |
Posted - 27 Dec 2008 : 01:06:36
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Originally posted by Fillow
I may misunderstand you post Calen but did you really not read about the Realms for two years ? (that's what I understand in "i have fallen off the wagon so to speak for the last two years")
-Right. That's what the saying means. The proverbial wagon keeps on going after you fall off, so there's distance between you and it. |
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Lord Karsus
Great Reader
USA
3741 Posts |
Posted - 27 Dec 2008 : 01:08:37
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Originally posted by lelorien
New era?
-For the new 4e ruleset, the designers of the Forgotten Realms decided to bump up the timeline by 104 years. In the FRPG/CG, the official date is 1,479 DR, 104 years after the official date of 1,375 DR, from 3e. Along with the advance of the timeline, the setting has been changed in various ways, some radical (Mystra is dead, the Weave vanished, and certain entire landmasses have been 'teleported' elsewhere), and some less so. |
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Elves of Faerûn
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lelorien
Acolyte
Canada
41 Posts |
Posted - 27 Dec 2008 : 05:31:45
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| Oh... Great -_-, as long as its not a modernization of the whole setting (gunpowder, etc...) I know Shou powder exists, but its not a big part of book... |
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Calen
Acolyte
Canada
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Posted - 27 Dec 2008 : 20:41:51
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| Yep it has been about two years since i was a regular reader. I kind of drifted off into other campaign settings. I will definately be picking up a grand history of the realms, but am very interested in the current events such as the hundred year hole. I have been hearing that it is a bit of a power grab from WotC |
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Fillow
Master of Realmslore
France
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Master of Realmslore
France
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Jrez56
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 08 May 2009 : 03:30:18
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Hello everyone, new user here.
I am looking to branch off a bit and read some new series within the Forgotten Realms. So far I have read basically the whole Drizzt series, the Cleric Quintet, War of the Spider Queen, The Lady Penitent, and the first three Elminster novels.
I was wondering what some of you would sugest I read next in terms of series. Also, in terms of Erevis Cale, which should be read first, the Sembia Series or the Erevis Cale trilogy?
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
USA
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 08 May 2009 : 15:00:06
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"Instead of asking why we sleep, it might make sense to ask why we wake. Perchance we live to dream. From that perspective, the sea of troubles we navigate in the workaday world might be the price we pay for admission to another night in the world of dreams."
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skychrome
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 08 May 2009 : 15:20:25
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Originally posted by Jrez56
Also, in terms of Erevis Cale, which should be read first, the Sembia Series or the Erevis Cale trilogy?
Thanks a lot.
Elaine certainly has some good novels. Paul Kemp too.
If you are interested in Erevis Cale, the best way would be to read Halls of Stormweather (very good mix of Sembian short stories) and then Shadow's Witness (which is a deeper introduction to Erevis Cale).
You can also start Erevis Cale Trilogy directly without a problem, but I would recommend the two books before that to maximize the reading experience.
In my personal opinion the Erevis Cale trilogy is the best I have read so far in the Realms. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 08 May 2009 : 15:44:08
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Seconded on EC.
I always recommend Elaine's stuff to people. Also, if it can be found, Jeff Grubb and Kate Novak's stuff. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 08 May 2009 : 16:24:55
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I'll jump on the "Elaine Cunningham recommendation train." Especially those novels that feature my favourite Realms character -- Danilo Thann!
I'll recommend Steven Schend's books too -- Blackstaff and Blackstaff Tower.
And a little apart from a series in and off itself -- Erik Scott de Bie's stuff.
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KingLouis
Acolyte
Australia
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Posted - 22 May 2009 : 11:48:13
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Hi everyone, another new member here :D
A big fan of the CRPGs BG1, BG2, TOB and PST - these games started me on my first FR series Avatar. I just finished Icewind Dale Trilogy and about to start the Dark Elf Trilogy :)
Here's a question for the more experienced FRers: Throughout the last couple of months I usually check this bargain book shop for FR books and have picked up bits and pieces of various books. I have parts of the Watercourse series, Wizard series, Last Mythal series, 1 of the Knights Of Myth Drannor duology.
I'm planning on purchasing the remaining books of these series - but I was wondering if I should do that first, or get my fingers in some other FR series first like the popular Songs & Swords, Cities, Finder's Stone, etc. that have been recommended by everyone.
Also should I read War of the Spider Queen after the Drizzt books? |
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edappel
Learned Scribe
Brazil
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Posted - 22 May 2009 : 13:33:57
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War of the Spider Queen doesn't need to be after Drizz books... It's an absolutely different story.
That's a good series to get known some of those good authors that FR have.
I think you should read anything that looks good for you... RAS books, Songs & Shadows, Finder's stone, Erevis Cale Trilogy, gateway to Sembia, The Haunted Lands, Year of the Rogue Dragon, Cities, Wizards, Waterdeep, Last Mythal, any Anthologies, Ed's, War of the Spider queen, Avatar Series... Just choose one of those and read... There isn't a recommend order, it only depends on you.
Good Luck and good reading. |
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BEAST
Master of Realmslore
USA
1714 Posts |
Posted - 22 May 2009 : 15:35:40
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Originally posted by KingLouis
Also should I read War of the Spider Queen after the Drizzt books?
I would. "WOTSQ" discusses some characters who had been previously killed off in one of the Drizzt novels, Siege of Darkness, and helps to explain why the drow have seemed so quiet for a long stretch of time within the Drizzt series. It's interesting to see how Salvatore described drow society first, and then to see other authors' spin on it. It's about context, I guess.
BTW, check out the complete Salvatore Realms Chronology in my sig.
I'm a RAS-o-phile, so I'm no good for recommending other authors and works for you, though. |
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