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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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 Posted - 01 Aug 2009 : 01:07:42
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Originally posted by Auzoros
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Originally posted by Jorkens
There's quite a bit of Manshoon in Ed's Knights trilogy.
Im intent on buying those books. If Sage speaks highly of them (and I know he's a Manshoon fan too ), then I can't wait to read them.
Note, however, that they are mostly brief scenes featuring Manshoon. He's not a main cast character in the trilogy. Rather, he pops up from time to time. But they're more than enough for those who love Manshoon and his antics.
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Auzoros
Seeker
Australia
97 Posts |
Posted - 01 Aug 2009 : 06:10:17
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Auzoros
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Originally posted by Jorkens
There's quite a bit of Manshoon in Ed's Knights trilogy.
Im intent on buying those books. If Sage speaks highly of them (and I know he's a Manshoon fan too), then I can't wait to read them.
Note, however, that they are mostly brief scenes featuring Manshoon. He's not a main cast character in the trilogy. Rather, he pops up from time to time. But they're more than enough for those who love Manshoon and his antics.
Well I've just placed my order with Amazon (along with a few other novels).
Unfortunately the dropkick that's selling them on eBay (Australia) atm likes to change his/her pricing options during the final hours of bidding...the greedy so-and-so! |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 01 Aug 2009 : 07:51:30
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Originally posted by Auzoros
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Auzoros
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Originally posted by Jorkens
There's quite a bit of Manshoon in Ed's Knights trilogy.
Im intent on buying those books. If Sage speaks highly of them (and I know he's a Manshoon fan too), then I can't wait to read them.
Note, however, that they are mostly brief scenes featuring Manshoon. He's not a main cast character in the trilogy. Rather, he pops up from time to time. But they're more than enough for those who love Manshoon and his antics.
Well I've just placed my order with Amazon (along with a few other novels).
Unfortunately the dropkick that's selling them on eBay atm likes to change his/her pricing options during the final hours of bidding...the greedy so-and-so!
It's a shame you've already ordered from Amazon. Because I know both MilSims and Galaxy Books here in Australia still have copies of all three books available for purchase and mail-order.
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Penknight
Senior Scribe
USA
538 Posts |
Posted - 01 Aug 2009 : 07:56:32
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Ok, apparently there is a favorite villain thread.
As I've said elsewhere, Cythara from The Greater Treasure is my favorite villain thus far. I feel that Sarya could have really been something, but... nevermind. I won't say any more about that.
I'm really hoping to see more of Cythara and her brother in the future! Maybe a mention will be made of her fey'ri bladesinger lover?   |
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MerrikCale
Senior Scribe
USA
947 Posts |
Posted - 02 Aug 2009 : 12:46:14
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| can I vote for the authors of the 4E Campaign book? Those are indeed the greatest villians of the Realms in my book |
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Auzoros
Seeker
Australia
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Posted - 02 Aug 2009 : 18:14:38
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Originally posted by MerrikCale
can I vote for the authors of the 4E Campaign book? Those are indeed the greatest villians of the Realms in my book
Indeed. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
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gwalchavad
Acolyte
USA
31 Posts |
Posted - 03 Aug 2009 : 07:15:52
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| The sojourner FTW completely selfish, but completely mundane |
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Jakk
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 04 Aug 2009 : 23:20:03
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Originally posted by The Sage
Folks, let's try to keep this focused on actual villains who populate the Realms campaign setting.
Thank you.
Uh... Sage? They *are* the actual villains who depopulated and (sort of) repopulated (what was left of) the Realms campaign setting. What more do you want?
That's why I voted "other" in the poll.
Seriously, in-world... definitely Halaster. He ran Undermountain like a demented collaboration of Poe and Lovecraft, then when he learned about the Spellplague, he blew his soul to atoms rather than stop it. That's what I call evil.
(And yes, I know it wasn't his choice to blow his soul to atoms, but it was somebody's choice, wasn't it?) |
Playing in the Realms since the Old Grey Box (1987)... and *still* having fun with material published before 2008, despite the NDA'd lore.
If it's comparable in power with non-magical abilities, it's not magic. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 05 Aug 2009 : 01:09:36
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Originally posted by Jakk
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Originally posted by The Sage
Folks, let's try to keep this focused on actual villains who populate the Realms campaign setting.
Thank you.
Uh... Sage? They *are* the actual villains who depopulated and (sort of) repopulated (what was left of) the Realms campaign setting. What more do you want?
That's why I voted "other" in the poll.
Nice try, Jakk. But Smyther's opening post for this scroll makes it pretty clear he asking about villains within the context of the FORGOTTEN REALMS setting.
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Teneck
Learned Scribe
USA
133 Posts |
Posted - 05 Aug 2009 : 22:09:31
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This is a wee bit creepy...I found this on page one of the post...way back in '05. Seems he is a prophet.
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Originally posted by Sir Vengeance
1) Cyric-this lunatic deity is a great threat to the Realms and the Pantheon. He reminds me of the Norse god, Loki, and who knows one day he might ally with the Elder Eternal Evils and lead a revolt against the Pantheon. It was a serious lack of perception on Ao's part to allow an man as insane as Karsus to assume a deity position.
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skychrome
Senior Scribe
713 Posts |
Posted - 05 Aug 2009 : 22:27:53
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Originally posted by Jakk
Seriously, in-world... definitely Halaster. He ran Undermountain like a demented collaboration of Poe and Lovecraft, then when he learned about the Spellplague, he blew his soul to atoms rather than stop it. That's what I call evil.
(And yes, I know it wasn't his choice to blow his soul to atoms, but it was somebody's choice, wasn't it?)
Where can I read what has happened to Halaster during the spellplague and in 4e? Any info out there?
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36865 Posts |
Posted - 06 Aug 2009 : 01:07:03
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Originally posted by skychrome
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Originally posted by Jakk
Seriously, in-world... definitely Halaster. He ran Undermountain like a demented collaboration of Poe and Lovecraft, then when he learned about the Spellplague, he blew his soul to atoms rather than stop it. That's what I call evil.
(And yes, I know it wasn't his choice to blow his soul to atoms, but it was somebody's choice, wasn't it?)
Where can I read what has happened to Halaster during the spellplague and in 4e? Any info out there?
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He was no longer around by the time of the Sellplague. In the core module Expedition to Undermountain (yeah, it wasn't even an FR product), Hally detected some coming magical threat and tried to stop it, but got blown to tiny pieces instead. What the threat was or what he was doing remain unspecified. It all happened offstage. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31799 Posts |
Posted - 06 Aug 2009 : 01:36:07
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by skychrome
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Originally posted by Jakk
Seriously, in-world... definitely Halaster. He ran Undermountain like a demented collaboration of Poe and Lovecraft, then when he learned about the Spellplague, he blew his soul to atoms rather than stop it. That's what I call evil.
(And yes, I know it wasn't his choice to blow his soul to atoms, but it was somebody's choice, wasn't it?)
Where can I read what has happened to Halaster during the spellplague and in 4e? Any info out there?
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He was no longer around by the time of the Sellplague. In the core module Expedition to Undermountain (yeah, it wasn't even an FR product), Hally detected some coming magical threat and tried to stop it, but got blown to tiny pieces instead. What the threat was or what he was doing remain unspecified. It all happened offstage.
And Halaster's demise was later referenced in Grand History of the Realms. Grounding the events of EtU in FR canon.
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skychrome
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 06 Aug 2009 : 20:35:49
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Achhhh! What a shame! I really liked this guy and Undermountain without Halaster is just like beer without alcohol...  |
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Brynweir
Senior Scribe
USA
436 Posts |
Posted - 06 Aug 2009 : 22:10:11
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Originally posted by Teneck
This is a wee bit creepy...I found this on page one of the post...way back in '05. Seems he is a prophet.
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Originally posted by Sir Vengeance
1) Cyric-this lunatic deity is a great threat to the Realms and the Pantheon. He reminds me of the Norse god, Loki, and who knows one day he might ally with the Elder Eternal Evils and lead a revolt against the Pantheon. It was a serious lack of perception on Ao's part to allow an man as insane as Karsus to assume a deity position.
Maybe it wasn't so much that he's a prophet as some guy over at WOTC saw the post |
Anyone who likes to read something that's really dark and gritty and completely awesome ought to read The Night Angel Trilogy by Brent Weeks. You can check out a little taste at www.BrentWeeks.com I should probably warn you, though, that it is definitely not PG-13 :-D
He also started a new Trilogy with Black Prism, which may even surpass the Night Angel Trilogy in its awesomeness. 
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Teneck
Learned Scribe
USA
133 Posts |
Posted - 06 Aug 2009 : 22:28:41
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Originally posted by Brynweir
quote:
Originally posted by Teneck
This is a wee bit creepy...I found this on page one of the post...way back in '05. Seems he is a prophet.
quote:
Originally posted by Sir Vengeance
1) Cyric-this lunatic deity is a great threat to the Realms and the Pantheon. He reminds me of the Norse god, Loki, and who knows one day he might ally with the Elder Eternal Evils and lead a revolt against the Pantheon. It was a serious lack of perception on Ao's part to allow an man as insane as Karsus to assume a deity position.
Maybe it wasn't so much that he's a prophet as some guy over at WOTC saw the post
LOL...I can see it now
"OH wow...what a great idea...Cyric kills EVERYONE...whew!!! was wondering how we were gonna do 4th ed...problem solved" |
"Go ahead...Sleep in the church...the vampires can't get ya in the church" Any DM...any time.
"He's like a trained ape...without the training"
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LordManshoon
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 17 Aug 2009 : 01:55:02
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| Gee, I wonder who got my vote... |
Mastering myriad magics since Ed was young |
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Drizztsmanchild
Learned Scribe
USA
228 Posts |
Posted - 18 Aug 2009 : 14:33:12
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| I have a question about Halaster. If the spellplague caused normal mages to go insane what about insane ones? |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36865 Posts |
Posted - 18 Aug 2009 : 16:06:52
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Originally posted by Drizztsmanchild
I have a question about Halaster. If the spellplague caused normal mages to go insane what about insane ones?
Doesn't matter. He was already dead when it happened. |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3290 Posts |
Posted - 18 Aug 2009 : 18:10:42
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Originally posted by LordManshoon
Gee, I wonder who got my vote...
You again.
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"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3290 Posts |
Posted - 18 Aug 2009 : 18:17:08
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Drizztsmanchild
I have a question about Halaster. If the spellplague caused normal mages to go insane what about insane ones?
Doesn't matter. He was already dead when it happened.
Maybe he is, maybe he wont be? |
"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
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creyzi4zb12
Learned Scribe
Philippines
129 Posts |
Posted - 23 Aug 2009 : 13:35:33
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| Cyric!! The Cyrinishad....was the coolest thing to ever happen in the Realms |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
3290 Posts |
Posted - 23 Aug 2009 : 13:46:24
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"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
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Bladewind
Master of Realmslore
Netherlands
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Posted - 23 Aug 2009 : 14:46:50
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I vote Manshoon, one of the few villains who doesn't fall for the villainous tropes others fall to (like explaining the grandmaster plan to the good guys). He is the man with the plan that nobody can unravel proper (even able to confound his own clone selves!).
Honorable mentions:
Zasian Mensz, he shows the power of deception and lies can propel one to great heights.
Sojourner, a villain I could relate to till the very end
Irenicus, loved to hate this one and aptly brought to life by the voiceacting of David Warner |
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swifty
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
517 Posts |
Posted - 24 Aug 2009 : 22:57:05
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Originally posted by Bladewind
I vote Manshoon, one of the few villains who doesn't fall for the villainous tropes others fall to (like explaining the grandmaster plan to the good guys). He is the man with the plan that nobody can unravel proper (even able to confound his own clone selves!).
Honorable mentions:
Zasian Mensz, he shows the power of deception and lies can propel one to great heights.
Sojourner, a villain I could relate to till the very end
Irenicus, loved to hate this one and aptly brought to life by the voiceacting of David Warner
was zasian mensz from a novel. |
go back to sleep america.everything is under control.heres american gladiators.watch this.shuttup. BILL HICKS. |
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Brimstone
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 24 Aug 2009 : 23:23:25
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| Zasian Mensz was in the Thomas Reid trilogy:Empyrean Odyssey. |
"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
thing we have. Wherefore guard the word written and heed
words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
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Cleric Generic
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
565 Posts |
Posted - 08 Nov 2009 : 10:19:04
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| Cyric and Bane. The former is the deific embodyment of treachery and murder, etc. The latter the deific embodyment of tyrrany and oppression. The most evil, in my opinion, if for no other reason than their single minded persuit of their brand of evil as gods and their unrivalled power to do and inspire it in that capacity. |
Cedric! The Cleric Generic and Master of Disguise!
ALL HAIL LORD KARSUS!!!
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Sandro
Learned Scribe
New Zealand
266 Posts |
Posted - 11 Nov 2009 : 22:17:45
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How about Ghost from Night Masks?
Aye, I must say that he'd take my vote as well. Especially the way he treated the firbolg (forget his name). Just so... evil. |
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Dennis
Great Reader
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Posted - 18 Apr 2010 : 10:06:27
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| i'm partial to netheril, so my vote goes to Telemont. he's unreadable face, calm attitude, (arguably) unparalleled cunning, and great power make him stand out. |
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