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Dargoth
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 Posted - 17 Jul 2005 : 02:06:00
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A while ago I asked Ed if he could tell us more about whats going on with Alaundo's skull (Its no longer attached to his corpses and Mind Flayers from Oryndoll are looking for it, see Drizzt Do'Urden's Guide to the Underdark) but unfortunately another one of those Baatezu spawned NDAs got in the way
Is there any word of Alaundo's skull in City of Splendors?
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Lina
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 17 Jul 2005 : 03:44:23
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To what tome are you refering to?
When I first saw the post I actually thought the webmaster did loose his head! |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 17 Jul 2005 : 05:33:20
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Originally posted by Lina
To what tome are you refering to?
City of Splendors 3e I believe.
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When I first saw the post I actually thought the webmaster did loose his head!
Look to DDGttU on pg. 86 for more details about the 'Skull of Alaundo'.
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Shadovar
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Posted - 17 Jul 2005 : 05:44:10
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Lina
To what tome are you refering to?
City of Splendors 3e I believe.
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When I first saw the post I actually thought the webmaster did loose his head!
Look to DDGttU on pg. 86 for more details about the 'Skull of Alaundo'.
Pardon my asking, The Sage, can i know the full title of the book called DDGttU?Thanks. |
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 17 Jul 2005 : 05:56:16
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Originally posted by Shadovar
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Lina
To what tome are you refering to?
City of Splendors 3e I believe.
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When I first saw the post I actually thought the webmaster did loose his head!
Look to DDGttU on pg. 86 for more details about the 'Skull of Alaundo'.
Pardon my asking, The Sage, can i know the full title of the book called DDGttU?Thanks.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 17 Jul 2005 : 05:57:00
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Since I was about 45 seconds too slow...
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Pardon my asking, The Sage, can i know the full title of the book called DDGttU?Thanks.
What Kuje said  .
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DDH_101
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 17 Jul 2005 : 06:10:31
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| Why would the mind flayers from Oryndoll be looking for Alaundo's skull? Is there like some kind of power divination magic hidden inside or something? |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
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Posted - 17 Jul 2005 : 06:54:24
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Why would the mind flayers from Oryndoll be looking for Alaundo's skull? Is there like some kind of power divination magic hidden inside or something?
Well Alaundo predicted alot of Faeruns future and he may have even been a Chosen of Savras. While many know Alaundos predections if some one actually had his head they could use the Speak with Dead spell to ask specfic questions about the future.
One of the Mindflayer factions in Oryndoll thinks that best way to conqueror the lesser races was to deprive them of knowledge thus reducing the Humans, Elves, halflings and the other civilised races to barbarism. So the Mindflyers run around trying destroy any knowledge he civilized surface rares have so for example they would be very keen to burn down Candlekeep as it has a great deal of books and infomation that could only be found there |
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Thelonius
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 17 Jul 2005 : 10:06:06
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Originally posted by Lina
To what tome are you refering to?
When I first saw the post I actually thought the webmaster did loose his head!
Lina for what I have seen in my short experience in the forums, Alaundo is a sage with the head over his shoulders.  |
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Alaundo
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warlockco
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 17 Jul 2005 : 13:18:13
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Originally posted by Alaundo
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Originally posted by Lina
To what tome are you refering to?
When I first saw the post I actually thought the webmaster did loose his head!
 I'm fine...honest. See!? 
er...hmmm, what...what's this? It seems like.....like... blood!  
Well your head does appear to be floating in a field of darkness. |
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DDH_101
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 17 Jul 2005 : 17:21:36
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Originally posted by Dargoth
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Originally posted by DDH_101
Why would the mind flayers from Oryndoll be looking for Alaundo's skull? Is there like some kind of power divination magic hidden inside or something?
Well Alaundo predicted alot of Faeruns future and he may have even been a Chosen of Savras. While many know Alaundos predections if some one actually had his head they could use the Speak with Dead spell to ask specfic questions about the future.
One of the Mindflayer factions in Oryndoll thinks that best way to conqueror the lesser races was to deprive them of knowledge thus reducing the Humans, Elves, halflings and the other civilised races to barbarism. So the Mindflyers run around trying destroy any knowledge he civilized surface rares have so for example they would be very keen to burn down Candlekeep as it has a great deal of books and infomation that could only be found there
Oh, I see...
But Alaundo has been dead so long. I don't think a Speak with Dead spell would work, would it?
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Reefy
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Posted - 18 Jul 2005 : 01:29:51
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Originally posted by Alaundo
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Originally posted by Lina
To what tome are you refering to?
When I first saw the post I actually thought the webmaster did loose his head!
I'm fine...honest. See!?
er...hmmm, what...what's this? It seems like.....like... blood!
It's not that damn spot again, is it?  |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 18 Jul 2005 : 02:54:33
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Okay, my fellow scribes... We really should try to bring the discussion back to the subject of the magical artifact that is the "Skull of Alaundo".
Now, back to the Realmslore...
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Osieu
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Posted - 18 Jul 2005 : 13:30:14
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| IIRC, there's one article Relics of the Realms in Dragon#333. Is there anything about the skull in it? |
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Tylas
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Posted - 18 Jul 2005 : 13:54:38
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IIRC, there's one article Relics of the Realms in Dragon#333. Is there anything about the skull in it?
The power to divine into the future? |
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Xysma
Master of Realmslore
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Shadovar
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 18 Jul 2005 : 23:49:18
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Curious...I wonder what will the mind flayers do with the skull if they found it?
The skull is devoid of flesh and brains but surely the mind flayers cannot use their psionic abilities to break into the skull secrets, am I wrong? |
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At the celebration of the Shinantra Battle victory when he revealed that he was THE Lord Shadow of legend. |
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Gray Richardson
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 19 Jul 2005 : 01:46:08
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| Maybe they would resurrect Alaundo from his skull and then eat his brain to assimilate his knowledge and divinatory distinctiveness into their ilithid elder brain. |
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Tylas
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Posted - 19 Jul 2005 : 01:48:42
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Maybe they would resurrect Alaundo from his skull and then eat his brain to assimilate his knowledge and divinatory distinctiveness into their ilithid elder brain.
Ressurect Alaundo? But Alaundo was said to be the Chosen of Savras, surely his soul is with Savras in Savras Realm unless the illithids has necromancers among them to do that. |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
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Posted - 19 Jul 2005 : 02:36:33
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Originally posted by Gray Richardson
Maybe they would resurrect Alaundo from his skull and then eat his brain to assimilate his knowledge and divinatory distinctiveness into their ilithid elder brain.
Thats IF Alaundo CAN be resurrected
Savras spent a great deal of time trapped in an artifact and if Azuth had trapped Savras in the artifact before Alaundo died then there wouldnt be anyone their to take Alaundo to the afterlife on Savras home plane. So its possable that Alaundo ended up being branded one of the false by Jergal or Mykrul and ended up in the Wall of the false |
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KnightErrantJR
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Posted - 19 Jul 2005 : 02:40:48
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| Plus there is always the . . . "if he doesn't want to come back to life he doesn't have to" hiccup to such plans (a clause that I have had to invoke to many a vengeful PC when they thought a villain died to quickly). |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
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Posted - 19 Jul 2005 : 03:09:52
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Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
Plus there is always the . . . "if he doesn't want to come back to life he doesn't have to" hiccup to such plans (a clause that I have had to invoke to many a vengeful PC when they thought a villain died to quickly).
You might want to give this a try the next time your players want to do that
When a person dies in the realms and they get to their gods home plane the god turns them into an outsider. Im personally of the view that the type of outsider would be determined by how powerful the indivduel in life
For example if Fzoul died Bane might turn him into a Pit Fiend if Bob a 1st low level bandit died his god might turn him into a Lemure (if LE) or Dretch (If CE) etc.
So next time characters try and raise a dead villian have the villian come back as the outsider.  |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 19 Jul 2005 : 04:18:43
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Originally posted by Shadovar
Curious...I wonder what will the mind flayers do with the skull if they found it?
The skull is devoid of flesh and brains but surely the mind flayers cannot use their psionic abilities to break into the skull secrets, am I wrong?
They could, perhaps, use it as some sort of psionic artifact. It could also serve as the focus for some sort of ritual, either psionic or magical, that would grant visions of the future... This is all speculation, of course. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 19 Jul 2005 : 05:10:12
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Shadovar
Curious...I wonder what will the mind flayers do with the skull if they found it?
The skull is devoid of flesh and brains but surely the mind flayers cannot use their psionic abilities to break into the skull secrets, am I wrong?
They could, perhaps, use it as some sort of psionic artifact. It could also serve as the focus for some sort of ritual, either psionic or magical, that would grant visions of the future... This is all speculation, of course.
Indeed.
And if it somehow came into their possession, clerics of Deneir, Oghma, and even Savras would certinaly have an interest in the secrets of lore they could divine from the artifact.
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Tylas
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Posted - 19 Jul 2005 : 06:45:42
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Shadovar
Curious...I wonder what will the mind flayers do with the skull if they found it?
The skull is devoid of flesh and brains but surely the mind flayers cannot use their psionic abilities to break into the skull secrets, am I wrong?
They could, perhaps, use it as some sort of psionic artifact. It could also serve as the focus for some sort of ritual, either psionic or magical, that would grant visions of the future... This is all speculation, of course.
Indeed.
And if it somehow came into their possession, clerics of Deneir, Oghma, and even Savras would certinaly have an interest in the secrets of lore they could divine from the artifact.
It sounds like there might be a big fight and bloodshed for Alaundo's skull. But what can they do once they divine something from the artifact, change the course of the future? Surely not all courses of the future can be changed. |
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 19 Jul 2005 : 11:20:24
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Originally posted by Tylas
It sounds like there might be a big fight and bloodshed for Alaundo's skull. But what can they do once they divine something from the artifact, change the course of the future? Surely not all courses of the future can be changed.
They could either try to change the future, or position themselves to take advantage of events no one else expects... |
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The Sage
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Posted - 19 Jul 2005 : 13:42:23
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Tylas
It sounds like there might be a big fight and bloodshed for Alaundo's skull. But what can they do once they divine something from the artifact, change the course of the future? Surely not all courses of the future can be changed.
They could either try to change the future, or position themselves to take advantage of events no one else expects...
This could actually work as a great basis for a series of adventures centered around the acquisition of the artifact by evil-aligned beings with nefarious intent. Perhaps they are planning to exploit some future weakness in the defenses of a city somewhere in the North -- plundering and pillaging it when the time is right.
The PCs of course, have been hired by the scribes of Candlekeep to attempt to recover the artifact and bring it to them. But what they don't release is the Great Reader who has hired them for the task is actually a baatezu noble of minor power and position acting through others in an attempt to secure the skull for his own fiendish purpose.
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Xysma
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Posted - 19 Jul 2005 : 15:37:55
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Originally posted by The Sage
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Tylas
It sounds like there might be a big fight and bloodshed for Alaundo's skull. But what can they do once they divine something from the artifact, change the course of the future? Surely not all courses of the future can be changed.
They could either try to change the future, or position themselves to take advantage of events no one else expects...
This could actually work as a great basis for a series of adventures centered around the acquisition of the artifact by evil-aligned beings with nefarious intent. Perhaps they are planning to exploit some future weakness in the defenses of a city somewhere in the North -- plundering and pillaging it when the time is right.
The PCs of course, have been hired by the scribes of Candlekeep to attempt to recover the artifact and bring it to them. But what they don't release is the Great Reader who has hired them for the task is actually a baatezu noble of minor power and position acting through others in an attempt to secure the skull for his own fiendish purpose.
Very interesting Sage, I was just thinking about a new campaign, and this may be just what I needed to get the ball rolling. |
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 19 Jul 2005 : 17:12:25
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Okay, so this idea may be non-viable, because my Planescape lore is limited...
But what if the skull is somewhere on the planes? A powerful Sensate grabbed it, and has been using it to experience things before they happen -- or maybe even experiencing possible futures that won't happen. |
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