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KnightErrantJR
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 Posted - 13 Jul 2005 : 21:47:56
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So I have been looking through When the Sky Falls by Malhavoc Press, and I really like a lot of what is in it, and my current campaign is based out of Mistledale, so I think to myself . . . self, this is a natural tie in. But I am having a hard time with a specific way to introduce some of this material.
The best I can come up with is perhaps finding an old Elven Observatory in the Cormanthyr woods near the Mistle Trail. Anyone else have any ideas on how to introduce elements of this book into a campaign?
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Chosen of Moradin
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 13 Jul 2005 : 21:57:31
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Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
So I have been looking through When the Sky Falls by Malhavoc Press, and I really like a lot of what is in it, and my current campaign is based out of Mistledale, so I think to myself . . . self, this is a natural tie in. But I am having a hard time with a specific way to introduce some of this material.
The best I can come up with is perhaps finding an old Elven Observatory in the Cormanthyr woods near the Mistle Trail. Anyone else have any ideas on how to introduce elements of this book into a campaign?
What that book is about? The sole name of it catch my attention instantly! |
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
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Posted - 13 Jul 2005 : 22:00:59
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Its what Malhavoc calls an event book, where they present a generic event, such as a god's death, a war, a meteor falling, then they present how such an event might affect a campaign, then they present feats, spells, magic items, and monsters that might come up in the listed occurance.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 13 Jul 2005 : 22:42:03
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| What is the premise of this book? Knowing that will make it a bit easier to offer advice... |
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
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Posted - 13 Jul 2005 : 23:15:41
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Well, the premise was just about the events around a meteorite that falls in a given region, the monsters that pop up, and the magic that wizards figure out by studying symbols and the meteorite itself.
I'm less interested in the event itself (which in Mistledale would be quite a while ago), than where one might find any monsters that might have survived and bred true from the meteorite that fell, as well as somewhere where spellbooks and magic items might be found from any of the elves that might have studied the original site.
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tauster
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 14 Jul 2005 : 08:29:54
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Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
I'm less interested in the event itself (which in Mistledale would be quite a while ago), than where one might find any monsters that might have survived and bred true from the meteorite that fell, as well as somewhere where spellbooks and magic items might be found from any of the elves that might have studied the original site.
i only have browsed through Wtsf weeks back but failed to see the link to mistledale (which should have been obvious to me, as i dm a campaign centered there and presumably know most published lore about ancient Ulvareen). i agree: the dale and the accessory match up!
comments, ideas and ramblings: 
problems with the "timelag":
if your campaign takes place in modern mistledale (= 14th century DR), there´s not much left behind to base an adventure on: all that´s left from Ulvareen (canon-wise) are a few artifacts in the posession of Dretchroyaster, a green dracolich, (see cult of the dragon). ok, that might be a good plot-starter, but as i recall there are no other known remnants from the ancient elven realm, at least no ruins. since elves rarely build underground, dungeons are less likely (or less convincing to the players).
my suggestion:
make it an arcane age- campaign!
two possibilities:
a) start right there (or better: right then)
the campaign takes place in old Ulvareen just prior to the impact. iirc, the cult of the dragon mentioned "the twelve days of fire" after the impact. lots of adventure-ideas there: the players are native elves who try to salvage what´s left of their realm (probably not much, i guess) and attempt to muster the few survivers. perhaps they start a small elven realms somewhere else?
the only problem with that idea is that is has nothing to do anymore with your modern mistledale campaign...
b) make it a time-travelling campaing
your players find something in modern mistledale (perhaps the artefact from dretchroyaster´s hoard?) and decide to travel back in time. possible plot twists:
- they are sent back against their will, and have to find a way to get back to 1370 dr. since there´s not much known about Ulvareen, they might not even know what is about to happen in a few days/weeks/months (dependent on how long you intend to leave them in the past) - which disarms the classical problem of timetravels.
- they discover a pending doom that will destroy mistledale, the dalelands, faerun or the whole of toril in the very near future. after they consult with some high-up sage [insert favourite npc here], they are sent back to Ulvareen to get some lost elven high magic. through a twist of fate, they arrive exactly when the sky falls... 
hope that helps, or at least does not hamper... |
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
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Posted - 14 Jul 2005 : 10:43:00
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Condsidering they have run into an elven chronomancer from Myth Drannor already, thats not completely out of the question, although I may not go the time travel route.
They may just end up hearing about books of lore (containing the spellbooks and feats from the book) and magic items in the green dracolichs lair (I have Cult of the Dragon, and never made the connection, so thanks!). I might even streach things a bit and allow the dragon to have some guardians from the book as well.
Since it will be a bit since they are high enough level for this, I may also tie this into the green dracolich being gone on a mission for the cult (Year of Rogue Dragons tie in) but they will still have to contend with his strange guardian.
I think I have a direction to go, and thanks for your help! |
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tauster
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Posted - 14 Jul 2005 : 11:55:00
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Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
Since it will be a bit since they are high enough level for this, I may also tie this into the green dracolich being gone on a mission for the cult (Year of Rogue Dragons tie in) but they will still have to contend with his strange guardian.
there´s something that might interest you:
http://spelljammer.org/contests/localchapters/CultOfDragon-Realmspace.html
this plot is right now unfolding in my campaign (as a sideplot):
the party has learned that dretch finally found a helm and now they wonder what will happen, as they have more pressing things to do.
they are quite happy to let somebody other attend to that problem: dretch´s brother, who secretely rules mistledale and is a (presumably good-aligned) ally of the party.  after all, they have just defeated a shadow dragon and have absolutely no intention to go fighting an undead dragon. 
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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 14 Jul 2005 : 15:36:29
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Originally posted by KnightErrantJR
Well, the premise was just about the events around a meteorite that falls in a given region, the monsters that pop up, and the magic that wizards figure out by studying symbols and the meteorite itself.
I'm less interested in the event itself (which in Mistledale would be quite a while ago), than where one might find any monsters that might have survived and bred true from the meteorite that fell, as well as somewhere where spellbooks and magic items might be found from any of the elves that might have studied the original site.
I somewhat recall this book (I was more interested in D20 gaming products back when it came out than I am now)
Wouldn't one possibility of the meteor/event be having some creatures in/around the area mutuate. That could allow you to take any creature/race familiar to the party and have fun warping it to something unusual.
Just one thought/idea.
As for the spellbooks/magic items from elves...would Cormanthyr: Empire of Elves be an option there? |
Edited by - SiriusBlack on 14 Jul 2005 15:40:39 |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
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Posted - 14 Jul 2005 : 15:42:55
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
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Posted - 09 Jul 2006 : 06:19:18
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| Once again, its been forever since anyone posted here, but since I was going through my Malhavoc collection, it occurs to me that this particular book would be useful not just for some of the ancient events in Mistledale, but (Spoilers for the Erevis Cale Trilogy)with the pieces of the Tear of Selune that Vhostym pulled out of orbit in the Erevis Cale books. |
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Wenin
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 10 Jul 2006 : 18:22:31
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Ok this is weird, I'm now wondering if I got my campaign idea from this thread a year ago....
I'm currently working on a campaign that takes the "meteor hit" story and having that be a myth. The real story is that Corellon and Gruumsh fought an epic battle way above the throngs of an elf vs orc war occurring far to the east ~12,000 years ago. The meteor was in fact Gruumsh falling to Faerun after being critically wounded by Corellon. The landing was the last that Gruumsh could do to spit in the eye of Corellon, so to speak.
I'm going to have to look this book up along with the cult of the dragon reference. |
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Derulbaskul
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Posted - 13 Aug 2006 : 14:01:26
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I thought about adapting the ruin priest prestige class into a a very dark and destructive follower of Shar. My planned title was "Dark Nihilist". The Dark Nihilist would eventually have the power to call down a meteor strike at night as an insult to Selune. As for the ability to transform into the worm-like creature, I was going to instead have the Dark Nihilist transform into a shadevari as detailed in 2E's Villains Lorebook.
All in all, I thought the meteor strike might make an interesting way to assault Silverymoon as a way of undermining worship of Selune. I would have loved to have seen the PCs in a race against time to stop the ritual that calls down fiery destruction from the heavens on Silverymoon. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 13 Aug 2006 : 15:53:33
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Originally posted by Derulbaskul
I thought about adapting the ruin priest prestige class into a a very dark and destructive follower of Shar. My planned title was "Dark Nihilist". The Dark Nihilist would eventually have the power to call down a meteor strike at night as an insult to Selune. As for the ability to transform into the worm-like creature, I was going to instead have the Dark Nihilist transform into a shadevari as detailed in 2E's Villains Lorebook.
All in all, I thought the meteor strike might make an interesting way to assault Silverymoon as a way of undermining worship of Selune. I would have loved to have seen the PCs in a race against time to stop the ritual that calls down fiery destruction from the heavens on Silverymoon.
That seems awfully powerful for a PrC... |
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Derulbaskul
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Posted - 14 Aug 2006 : 09:49:37
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| Actually, it used the rules from When the Sky Falls and was more of an Epic-like ritual than a simple "call down a meteor strike once per day". IIRC, the NPC would have to be about 18th-level to do this... and, by comparison, you know that an 18th-level druid can wipe out an army with a 5th-level spell that takes a standard action to cast. ;) |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 14 Aug 2006 : 11:12:29
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Originally posted by Derulbaskul
Actually, it used the rules from When the Sky Falls and was more of an Epic-like ritual than a simple "call down a meteor strike once per day". IIRC, the NPC would have to be about 18th-level to do this... and, by comparison, you know that an 18th-level druid can wipe out an army with a 5th-level spell that takes a standard action to cast. ;)
It works for me, as an epic ritual requiring someone to be that powerful. But a PrC? Those things top out at 10 levels. The ability to do something like that after just 10 levels is way too powerful. |
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