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StromLancer
Acolyte
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 Posted - 28 Jun 2005 : 13:27:54
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Hello everyone, I have some questions to ask so I hope no one mind me asking this. I know the Sage had created a list of Deities with a link to the website that has the list but for unknown reasons, I could not access the page so i had just to post this topic to ask. By the way, my apologies to you, the Sage, for saying this.
here are the questions:
1) How many dragon gods are there and what are they in charge of?
2) Do they submit to the will of Lord Ao or are they independent of him?
3) Did they walk Faerun or Toril during the Time of Troubles?
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Jindael
Senior Scribe
USA
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Posted - 28 Jun 2005 : 13:45:45
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We know that Tiamat, for one, did. I think there is a Scroll here in Candlekeep that shows the locations of every known deity that walked Toril. I can't find it for some reason though. ??
Sadly, the webblocker at work won't let me see Sage's scroll :( |
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Shadovar
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 28 Jun 2005 : 13:49:50
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Well lets see..... to answer Strom's question 1:
Asgorath, the World Shaper : Greater power of the Outer Planes (Neutral)
Astilabor, Acquisitor;Hoardmistress: Intermediate power of Limbo ( Chaotic Neutral)
Bahamut, The King of All Good Dragons, the Platinum Dragon, Justicemaker: Lesser power of Mount Celestia ( Lawful Good)
Garyx, Firelord, Cleanser of Worlds: Intermediate power of teh Abyss ( Chaotic Evil)
Hlal, The Jester, the Pursued: Lesser power of Arborea ( Chaotic Good)
Kereska, Wonderbringer, Light of Magic: Intermediate power of Limbo (Chaotic Neutral)
Lendys,World-shaper: Intermediate power of Nirvana ( Lawful Neutral)
Null,Death Wyrm, Guardian of the Lost, Night Dragon: Lawful evil lesser power of Carceri and lawful neutral intermediate power of the Outlands
Tamara, Her Beneficem, Her Mercy: Intermediate Power of Elysium ( Neutral Good)
Well, I think this should be the answer to question 1.
Task, The Tasker and Holder, Wrester: Lesser power of Pandemonium ( Chaotic Evil)
Tiamat, The Dragon Queen, the Chromatic Dragon: Lesser Power of Baator ( Lawful Evil)
Zorquan, High One, Great Wyrm: Intermediate Power of the Outlands ( Neutral)
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 28 Jun 2005 : 17:19:58
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There's a list of what gods were where on the WotC site, but it doesn't include the draconic deities.
For more info about what the non-draconic deities were doing during the Time of Troubles, look here.
2) If they are active anywhere in the crystal sphere, they answer to Ao.
3) All the gods were kicked out of the heavens, not just the Faerûnian ones. So we may not know where they were, but we can rule out lounging about in celestial lairs. |
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Edited by - Wooly Rupert on 28 Jun 2005 17:25:40 |
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Faraer
Great Reader
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Posted - 28 Jun 2005 : 20:31:19
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| On the other hand, these gods are from suspect sources like FOR1 Draconomicon (despite Eric Boyd's attempt to rehabilitate them in Cult of the Dragon), and if you look at reliable sources like "Wyrms of the North" you see that dragons don't actually worship these deities very much. It seems to me that dragons are too arrogant to worship gods, in the main, and are more likely to see Tiamat and Bahamut as exalted peers to be respected and feared. |
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Shadovar
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 29 Jun 2005 : 07:03:57
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Originally posted by Faraer
On the other hand, these gods are from suspect sources like FOR1 Draconomicon (despite Eric Boyd's attempt to rehabilitate them in Cult of the Dragon), and if you look at reliable sources like "Wyrms of the North" you see that dragons don't actually worship these deities very much. It seems to me that dragons are too arrogant to worship gods, in the main, and are more likely to see Tiamat and Bahamut as exalted peers to be respected and feared.
If dragons are too arrogant to worship their own gods, surely will they end up in the wall of the Faithless in Kelemvor's Realm? Being punished as faithless. It would be nice to see a few dragon souls pinned up in the endless wall of the Faithless rather than the usual faithless souls from the mortal races of Faerun. |
We have fostered trust, recruited loyalty, and gathered the faithful. We have trained thousands. Our legions can cover the land, fill the sky and travel through the darkness. We can hunt any and all that would deny our heritage. Now is our time, now is the time of the Dark Reign(Rain) of the Empire of Shadows.
- High Prince Telemont Tanthul, Lord Shadow
In a speech given to the citizens of Shade Enclave
At the celebration of the Shinantra Battle victory when he revealed that he was THE Lord Shadow of legend. |
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KnightErrantJR
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 29 Jun 2005 : 07:21:26
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hm . . . that conjecture sounds familiar, lol.
I don't think that the dragon's are too arogant to worship gods, especially if they have a whole outer plane to themselves. I would say that dragon gods realize that their servants are prideful, and they the qualifications for being a "faithful servant" may be a bit lighter on dragons than on others. |
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Jindael
Senior Scribe
USA
357 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jun 2005 : 12:40:54
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Do dragons have a death god? It’s Null, right? Well, like all the other death gods except Kelemvor, they’re kind of useless. But I think I’m moving into “pet peeve” territory, rather than staying on topic.
Also horribly off topic, but I have this sudden image of Kelemvor looking and acting like Zap Brannigan, and Jergal being like Kip.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 29 Jun 2005 : 14:05:25
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Originally posted by Jindael
Also horribly off topic, but I have this sudden image of Kelemvor looking and acting like Zap Brannigan, and Jergal being like Kip.
Does that make Mystra... Lila? 
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31774 Posts |
Posted - 29 Jun 2005 : 14:07:53
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Originally posted by Jindael
Do dragons have a death god? It’s Null, right?
From the deities list -
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Chronepsis (Null)
Lesser deity/Intermediate deity/Greater deity
Alignment: Neutral (Lawful Neutral)
Portfolio: Fate, death, judgment, the dead exhaustion, final judgement, fatalism
Sources: Draconomicon (Third Edition), Defenders of the Faith, Cult of the Dragon (as Null), On Hallowed Ground, Draconomicon (Second Edition) (as Null), Monster Mythology
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RedStrike
Acolyte
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Posted - 01 Jul 2005 : 03:59:27
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| Well I do have a question I would like to ask, it is known that teh Faerunian gods have their own "Chosen" such as Mystra's Chosen and Shar's unknown Chosen. So did the dragon gods appoint any wryms to be their Chosen or champions of their cause? |
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Gray Richardson
Master of Realmslore
USA
1291 Posts |
Posted - 01 Jul 2005 : 22:01:48
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It should be noted that in 3E there are only 4 dragon gods:
Null LN (combines aspects of Chronepsis & Falazure from Draconomicon)
Hlal CG (same as Aasterinian from the Draconomicon)
Task CE god of greed.
& Tiamat LE
They live in the 3E plane of Dragon Eyrie. It would be great if they worked the other 2E dragon gods back into 3E lore somehow, but those other gods are absent from the official picture at the moment. |
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