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Forge
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Posted - 23 Jun 2005 :  18:49:08  Show Profile  Visit Forge's Homepage Send Forge a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Thoughts on the Feat: Spell Thematics? I'm fascinated by the potential applications and image posibilities.

Currently I'm running a wizard who has a Raven familiar and who has elected the Birds theme for his spells.

Theme spells so far-

0-level Mage Hand (Very cool to have a ghostly raven fetch and fly about as a Mage Hand.)
1st level Magic Missle- (Again, a murder of ravens bursting forth to peck at his foes before vanishing.)

Thoughts on higher level theme spells?

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Posted - 23 Jun 2005 :  19:15:59  Show Profile Send Kentinal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
2nd Level Summon Swarm (of course of ravens)
3rd Level Wind Wall (a shield of ravens)
4th Level Shout (load raven calls)
5th Level Prying Eyes (in form of a raven)
6th Level Repulsion (ravens appearing to keep others from approching)
7th Level Power Word Blind (traget believes eyes pecked out by raven)
8th Level Prying Eyes, Greater (Raven eyes)
9th Level Meteor Swarm (4 exploding ravens)

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Fletcher
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Posted - 23 Jun 2005 :  19:16:28  Show Profile  Visit Fletcher's Homepage Send Fletcher a Private Message  Reply with Quote
2nd--Flaming sphere now looks like a jumping burning bird.
2nd-Acid raven(arrow)
2nd--Specral hand becomes a spectral raven.
3rd--Flame arrow becomes flame raven
3rd--Lightning bolt looses a raven shaped electrical burst that flies in a a straight line.
4th--Secure shelter has raven motif on blankets, and shutters and door, perhaps even a raven door knocker.
5th--Teleport leaves a poof of black feathers
5th--interposing raven
5th--mages faithful raven

Wall spells all have an image of a raven.


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Chosen of Moradin
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Posted - 23 Jun 2005 :  19:21:32  Show Profile  Visit Chosen of Moradin's Homepage Send Chosen of Moradin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I like too much of this feat and his aplications, too!

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Forge
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Posted - 23 Jun 2005 :  19:29:23  Show Profile  Visit Forge's Homepage Send Forge a Private Message  Reply with Quote
These are all good, I'm also thinking of various other themes, as well as potential spell combinations that capitolize on the +1 caster level for theme spells.
(I believe the feat gives a +4 DC for spellcraft checks to determine what spell you are casting, as well as one spell per level is cast as a Theme spell and is cast at +1 caster level.)

Are there any FR casters who use spell thematics? I don't recall seeing any in the source material, but I haven't made an exhaustive search either.
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KnightErrantJR
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Posted - 23 Jun 2005 :  21:49:24  Show Profile  Visit KnightErrantJR's Homepage Send KnightErrantJR a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Given that the Red Wizards are known for an association with fire, but that any wizard that clashes with them would know that as well, I could picture a few of them using spell thematics to make their spells look more like fire. A cone of cold that looks like white flames, an acid arrow the drips green sparks and burns green, etc.
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Asgetrion
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Posted - 24 Jun 2005 :  00:16:20  Show Profile  Visit Asgetrion's Homepage Send Asgetrion a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well met!

It seems that you beat me to it, Forge I had thought about posting a thread about this issue for some time, and I finally did it (under 'Running the Realms'). I expanded the issue somewhat, to concern the "flavour" of magic (both Arcane and Divine) in the Realms. Hopefully you are not offended by this, since I had intended to start that thread for some time

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Kajehase
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Posted - 24 Jun 2005 :  05:51:27  Show Profile Send Kajehase a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Fireball (can never remember spell-levels off the top of my head, sorry) - an exploding, flaming raven.

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Forge
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Posted - 24 Jun 2005 :  14:14:10  Show Profile  Visit Forge's Homepage Send Forge a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Not offended at all Asgetrion! In fact, I look forward to discussing this more.

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Thureen Buroch
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Posted - 30 Jun 2005 :  21:00:55  Show Profile  Visit Thureen Buroch's Homepage Send Thureen Buroch a Private Message  Reply with Quote
0-level: Arcane Mark (creates a personal magical sigil in the form of a raven)
4-level: Ice Storm (Icy ravens pelt from the sky)
9-level: Gate (A huge raven appears, its outstretched wings forming a gate to another plane)

Just some ideas ...

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 01 Jul 2005 :  00:16:54  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Thureen Buroch

9-level: Gate (A huge raven appears, its outstretched wings forming a gate to another plane)

Just some ideas ...



I would instead make translocation magic be themed to either the shadow of the raven's wings, or a portal former by raven feathers.

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Forge
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Posted - 31 Jul 2005 :  06:01:35  Show Profile  Visit Forge's Homepage Send Forge a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ok, a friend this evening came up with a good one, Spell Thematics: Slapstick.

Scorching ray becomes "Seltzer Ray"
Grease becomes Banana Peels
Web becomes a bucket of glue that appears above them and douses them, etc...
Hold portal magicaly changes the orientation of a door directly opposite of what the person tries to do (A push door becomes pull only, etc... as needed to prevent opening.)
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