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Alisttair
Great Reader

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Posted - 06 Jun 2005 :  17:29:39  Show Profile  Visit Alisttair's Homepage Send Alisttair a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Ok I just finished reading Faces of Deception.
The ending leaves too many questions hanging in the air.
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Ok, so Atreus didn't get to wave goodbye to Seema and also what's gonna happen between him and Rishi now??? Do these characters appear in another novel or are mentioned elsewhere? Give me your thoughts/opinions as well, and if they appear elsewhere, the source.

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TomCosta
Forgotten Realms Designer

USA
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Posted - 06 Jun 2005 :  18:41:51  Show Profile Send TomCosta a Private Message  Reply with Quote
To the bes to my knowledge, the only other place they appeared was in a 2E Dragon article that statted them up....
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Xysma
Master of Realmslore

USA
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Posted - 06 Jun 2005 :  18:42:45  Show Profile  Visit Xysma's Homepage Send Xysma a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Alisttair

Ok I just finished reading Faces of Deception.
The ending leaves too many questions hanging in the air.
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Ok, so Atreus didn't get to wave goodbye to Seema and also what's gonna happen between him and Rishi now??? Do these characters appear in another novel or are mentioned elsewhere? Give me your thoughts/opinions as well, and if they appear elsewhere, the source.



I feel your pain, I loved that book right up until it ended. What a disappointment! It's almost as if it was the first part of a series that got cancelled. There is no continuation of the story as far as I know.

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Xysma
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Posted - 06 Jun 2005 :  18:55:54  Show Profile  Visit Xysma's Homepage Send Xysma a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by TomCosta

To the bes to my knowledge, the only other place they appeared was in a 2E Dragon article that statted them up....



I would love to take a look at that, would you happen to know what issue?

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 06 Jun 2005 :  22:42:15  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
That was another book I didn't like... The ending made it feel like the entire thing had been a waste of time.

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Brian R. James
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Posted - 07 Jun 2005 :  00:53:40  Show Profile  Visit Brian R. James's Homepage Send Brian R. James a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It was a great cliffhanger. Unfortunately I doubt we'll ever see a sequel.

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Alisttair
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Canada
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Posted - 07 Jun 2005 :  05:21:33  Show Profile  Visit Alisttair's Homepage Send Alisttair a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yeah it was a great book up until that end.

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TomCosta
Forgotten Realms Designer

USA
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Posted - 08 Jun 2005 :  00:09:18  Show Profile Send TomCosta a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Atreus (NG hm ftr10), Yago (LN ogre m 8 HD), Rishi (CE hm rog8, Seema (LG hf clr9 of Serene Abhirati -- who I might make an alias of Eldath), Tarch (LE m barbasu), and Sannyasi (LG m movanic deva)were given full 2E stats by the author, Troy Denning, in the 1998 Dragon Annual (so not on the Dragon CD-ROM).
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Xysma
Master of Realmslore

USA
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Posted - 11 Jun 2005 :  07:41:41  Show Profile  Visit Xysma's Homepage Send Xysma a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by TomCosta

Atreus (NG hm ftr10), Yago (LN ogre m 8 HD), Rishi (CE hm rog8, Seema (LG hf clr9 of Serene Abhirati -- who I might make an alias of Eldath), Tarch (LE m barbasu), and Sannyasi (LG m movanic deva)were given full 2E stats by the author, Troy Denning, in the 1998 Dragon Annual (so not on the Dragon CD-ROM).



Thanks!

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Lameth
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Germany
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Posted - 11 Jun 2005 :  12:13:18  Show Profile  Visit Lameth's Homepage Send Lameth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I want a sequel, too.
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Xysma
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USA
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Posted - 22 Jun 2005 :  18:50:34  Show Profile  Visit Xysma's Homepage Send Xysma a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lameth

I want a sequel, too.



I'd be happy with just five more pages telling us what happened. Even if they all die horrible deaths, it would be better than the ending as it is.

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Shadovar
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Posted - 23 Jun 2005 :  11:32:46  Show Profile  Visit Shadovar's Homepage Send Shadovar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Xysma

quote:
Originally posted by Lameth

I want a sequel, too.



I'd be happy with just five more pages telling us what happened. Even if they all die horrible deaths, it would be better than the ending as it is.



Aye, same here, I wonder when will the sequel be coming.

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Ty
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USA
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Posted - 26 Jun 2005 :  21:49:45  Show Profile  Visit Ty's Homepage Send Ty a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I hate knocking on a writer's books but Faces of Deception left me feeling... icky inside. The ending obviously left me thinking that this was an incomplete book but overall, I didn't like the fact that we were introduced to a whole new region of the Realms, (the Utter East), but 95% of the book takes place on a glacier that could be anywhere. Ah well, bad books happen.
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Alisttair
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Canada
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Posted - 29 Jun 2005 :  15:46:33  Show Profile  Visit Alisttair's Homepage Send Alisttair a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yeah! Where the hell is all of it taking place in the east? Where is this place (other than Duhlnarim and Erlkazar, which I have dedicated a NWN server to) :P

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Kajehase
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Posted - 29 Jun 2005 :  17:47:56  Show Profile Send Kajehase a Private Message  Reply with Quote
It's in the Utter East. Just off the map to the east (well, duh) of Var the Golden. I believe the only sourcebook that contain more than a paragraph about the area is the old Shining South.

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Ty
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USA
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Posted - 29 Jun 2005 :  20:08:09  Show Profile  Visit Ty's Homepage Send Ty a Private Message  Reply with Quote
You can find the map here on Candlekeep's website in the Map Room. It's called the Utter East, not to be confused with the Udder East, which we all know is filled with Bovine. Woolpert can fill you in more on that area.

As for other sources, maps (albeit with nothing more than country names) can be found in the Forgotten Realms Interactive Atlas and Ulgarth, technically part of the Utter East, has a page blurb in the Shining South 3.5 Edition sourcebook. Other than that, not a whole lot, unless you want to consider the non-canon Double Diamond sagas, which I haven't heard much good about.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 29 Jun 2005 :  23:11:08  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Ty

You can find the map here on Candlekeep's website in the Map Room. It's called the Utter East, not to be confused with the Udder East, which we all know is filled with Bovine. Woolpert can fill you in more on that area.




That is horrible! I salute you!

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Ty
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USA
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Posted - 30 Jun 2005 :  15:23:26  Show Profile  Visit Ty's Homepage Send Ty a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'd love to take credit for the horrible land of the cowgod known as the Udder East, but someone else came up with that name and I don't remember who. So, whoever did, the credit merely belongs to them.
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quajack
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Posted - 17 Sep 2005 :  02:30:26  Show Profile  Visit quajack's Homepage Send quajack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
This book was only one of two (out of 79) FR novels that I actually HATED. The other was Council of the Blades, (although the 2nd half wasn't bad...). The ending sucked and actually made me angry that I wasted 3 days worth of reading to finish this book. I'm a Troy Denning fan, but I could not have been anymore disappointed. This is one of those books that I can't imagine an editor for WotC saying, "Sure. Let's publish this."
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Beezy
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USA
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Posted - 27 Sep 2005 :  05:33:43  Show Profile  Visit Beezy's Homepage Send Beezy a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I thought the book was a decent book, I just didn't like the ending either.
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