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Dark_Lord
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 Posted - 16 Jan 2003 : 10:04:41
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…………Forgotten Realms? Good or bad campaign setting?
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Ditalidas
Learned Scribe
Netherlands
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Posted - 16 Jan 2003 : 12:30:10
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What are you doing here if you are doubting? Trying to subdue that doubt? If I didn't like the FRCS I would not be browsing this forum, for it probably would bore me. But it does not bore me, and I do like the Forgotten Realms... so here I am.
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Mumadar Ibn Huzal
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 16 Jan 2003 : 13:04:19
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Isn't that obvious, judging by the amount of material available, the huge amount of websites, tabletop games, play-by-e-mail games what would you think...
Of course there's a lot of subjectivity involved, but the popularity of the setting must be somesort of an indicator about the quality of the setting...
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zemd
Master of Realmslore
France
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Posted - 16 Jan 2003 : 18:27:52
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| And why do you ask this question to FR fans? What are you expecting us to answer?! |
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Dark_Lord
Seeker
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Posted - 16 Jan 2003 : 19:55:27
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Originally posted by Mumadar Ibn Huzal
Isn't that obvious, judging by the amount of material available, the huge amount of websites, tabletop games, play-by-e-mail games what would you think...
Of course there's a lot of subjectivity involved, but the popularity of the setting must be somesort of an indicator about the quality of the setting...
I agree with you to the some point, but popularity will never indicate the quality. There are too many evidences of that in your real life. Just begin with music, movies, culture in whole and you will open Pandora’s box of worthlessness and despair.
FR in whole is too much regular, too much normal, it is ruined with all those published modules and transformed into trash. On the other hand Planescape is so much better. Bizzare, mystical setting with all elements to be one of the greatest creations of people ever. Greater even than Tolkien's Middle Earth! |
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Dark_Lord
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Posted - 16 Jan 2003 : 19:56:29
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Originally posted by Ditalidas
What are you doing here if you are doubting? Trying to subdue that doubt? If I didn't like the FRCS I would not be browsing this forum, for it probably would bore me. But it does not bore me, and I do like the Forgotten Realms... so here I am.
Now...this is a rude answer! I never said I don't like it. I just referred that I don't know if it's good or bad, and that is a big difference. You see, I've RPed all kind of settings, from Planesape to Ravenloft, and they all seem somehow better, but at the end I always return to my old FR... Phenomenon or paradox, I don’t know.
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Dark_Lord
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Posted - 16 Jan 2003 : 19:57:55
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Originally posted by zemd
And why do you ask this question to FR fans? What are you expecting us to answer?!
I was just starting a friendly discussion with you, lady. |
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Echon
Senior Scribe
Denmark
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Posted - 16 Jan 2003 : 19:58:22
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Originally posted by Dark_Lord
Now...this is a rude answer! I never said I don't like it. I just referred that I don't know if it's good or bad, and that is a big difference. You see, I've RPed all kind of settings, from Planesape to Ravenloft, and they all seem somehow better, but at the end I always return to my old FR... Phenomenon or paradox, I don’t know.
I believe that what she was trying to point out is that this forum is probably the worst place to ask this question.
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Echon
Senior Scribe
Denmark
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Posted - 16 Jan 2003 : 20:04:23
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Originally posted by Dark_Lord
FR in whole is too much regular, too much normal, it is ruined with all those published modules and transformed into trash. On the other hand Planescape is so much better. Bizzare, mystical setting with all elements to be one of the greatest creations of people ever. Greater even than Tolkien's Middle Earth!
In your response to Ditalidas you say that you always return to the Forgotten Realms and here you claim Planescape to be the best ...?
Please notice the difference between opinion and fact with regard to wether Planescape is better than Middle Earth.
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Dark_Lord
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Posted - 16 Jan 2003 : 20:20:13
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Originally posted by Echon
In your response to Ditalidas you say that you always return to the Forgotten Realms and here you claim Planescape to be the best ...?
What should I say? I'm nostalgic person. My fist rping hours were spent with FR..... |
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Dark_Lord
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Posted - 16 Jan 2003 : 20:25:09
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Originally posted by Echon
Please notice the difference between opinion and fact with regard to wether Planescape is better than Middle Earth.
 And what is the fact?
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Originally posted by Echon
I believe that what she was trying to point out is that this forum is probably the worst place to ask this question.
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Alaundo
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lowtech
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 16 Jan 2003 : 20:49:02
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| I think its best to start a campaign in the Realms and end in Planescape (BRING IT BACK!). That said, there's an entirely different feel to all of them, and the Realms are the best "regular" campaign setting. |
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Dark_Lord
Seeker
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Posted - 16 Jan 2003 : 21:16:37
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Originally posted by Alaundo
Well Met
Well I think thats settled it then...... we all love the Forgotten Realms campaign setting! 
Of course, I may be wrong?! ::stands at the gates of Candlekeep with four 7ft doorman looking around for anyone who wishes to leave::
Yes, yes. We all love FRCS in here. Especially me.
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Originally posted by lowtech
I think its best to start a campaign in the Realms and end in Planescape (BRING IT BACK!). That said, there's an entirely different feel to all of them, and the Realms are the best "regular" campaign setting.
Now, this is reply I wanted to read!
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zemd
Master of Realmslore
France
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Posted - 16 Jan 2003 : 21:35:36
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And i answered in the same way. The only thing i think is that i don't see the point of asking such question here. That's my opinion
and i understand that you or anyone else don't share it.
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Originally posted by Dark_Lord
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Originally posted by zemd
And why do you ask this question to FR fans? What are you expecting us to answer?!
I was just starting a friendly discussion with you, lady.
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Drummer Boy
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 17 Jan 2003 : 05:34:42
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Mumadar Ibn Huzal
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 17 Jan 2003 : 10:07:05
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Originally posted by Dark_Lord
I agree with you to the some point, but popularity will never indicate the quality. There are too many evidences of that in your real life. Just begin with music, movies, culture in whole and you will open Pandora’s box of worthlessness and despair.
As you point out by using music and film as examples, it's all a matter of taste, personal feeling and preference. In other words a subjective approach. To measure quality of something one needs to have established an (objective) standard of sorts to measure against. Lacking such a standard, it becomes difficult to determine quality.
To suppport zemd in her comment, asking a question like this on a forum which is populated with Realms fans, the subjective answer will be obvious: The Realms is a good campaign setting.
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Originally posted by Dark_Lord
FR in whole is too much regular, too much normal, it is ruined with all those published modules and transformed into trash. On the other hand Planescape is so much better. Bizzare, mystical setting with all elements to be one of the greatest creations of people ever. Greater even than Tolkien's Middle Earth!
Illustrating my comment above, a subjective postion, a personal opinion which is one of many often different opinions. Sure, one is likely to find people with similar opinions about the various setting, but just as many with an opposite opinion.
Which is true, which is false? That's all up to the person in question. Personally I don't think Planescape is a great setting, does that mean that I'm right? No, just that for me it means I'll probably not use this campaign setting. That has nothing to do with the objective quality of the product, just a reflection of my subjective opinion. |
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Artalis
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 17 Jan 2003 : 18:01:18
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A most excellent explanation Mumadar, a learned scholar indeed!
::applauds::
For greater understanding of the concept of "quality" and the subjectiveness thereof, I would refer anyone with the thirst for a headache to read "Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance" A true brain bender if there ever was one!
And I must concur with Zemd, asking the question here is rather like asking a barber if you need a haircut .
But, yes I think the realms is a very good setting as far as premade ones go. The truly best ones are the ones you build yourself which I have done a few times. The problem there is the amount of work is prohibitively prodigious. The advantage is that if you have not spelled something out in your notes and it comes up, you can just make up the answer without checking anything. It's your world and no one knows it better than you....
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Lord Rad
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Posted - 17 Jan 2003 : 19:15:25
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Originally posted by Artalis
And I must concur with Zemd, asking the question here is rather like asking a barber if you need a haircut
LOL!!!!
Well I absolutely love the Forgotten Realms, IMO, it is second to none! My second love for campaign settings lies with Ravenloft! I have almost all the 2nd edition products and all the novels and have started collecting the new products released by White Wolf. God knows why TSR\WotC ditched the campaign, it was the perfect fantasy gothic horror setting....IMHO!
Birthright too looked promising, but didnt last long at all, same as Dark Sun. Still, I guess the powers that be take a look at sales figures and make decisions based on that...... having an interest in the corporate turnover, you cant really blame them.
Anyway, just my views. There are more campaign settings listed here if anyone has forgotten what else is\was around. |
Lord Rad
"What? No, I wasn't reading your module. I was just looking at the pictures"
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Dark_Lord
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Posted - 17 Jan 2003 : 20:41:13
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Salius Kai
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 20 Jan 2003 : 05:14:15
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Well heres a subjesctive opinion for you. I have played in all sorts of campaign settings, made up and prebuilt alike. And I think that the great detail that FR puts into their world makes for a much larger variety of RPing. They go into as much as giving the dieties stats and making a trading route map. And i would have to say, that with my limited experience, my vote goes to FR.
And what else were you really expecting, this is an FR message board. |
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The Great Drizzt
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 23 Jan 2003 : 08:50:31
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Forgotten Realms forever!!!!!!
The Great Drizzt |
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A question that troubles me for some time…..
