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Lord Rad
Great Reader
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 Posted - 02 Sep 2002 : 21:57:50
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Could someone please clarify the contents of Bloodstone pass (as in what comes in the box!). I expect this is the rarest FR product and i doubt ill ever lay my hands on a copy.
Also, if you have this product or have DM'd or played it, what did you think? I have gone through "H4 - The Throne of Bloodstone" but it takes place someone else (dont wanna mention it here incase of spoilers!) so i cant really get an idea about the other products in the series.
Thanks
Rad
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kahonen
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 03 Sep 2002 : 00:27:06
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I don't know of a boxed set called "Bloodstone Pass" but I have got a sourcebook called "The Bloodstone Lands" (TSR code 9267) dated 1989. The introduction to the sourcebook says:
This sourcebook is divided into nine sections.
These offer the Dungeon Master a solid overview of the region, plus details of some specific places and personalities.
Section 1: Overview of the Bloodstone Lands introduces a Dungeon Master to the region, particularly to Vaasa and Damara. This section covers the history of the region, with a close-up on the last two yearsóthe Year of the Prince and the Year of the Shadows (FR1357 and 1358). Present day is 1359, the Year of the Serpent. Recent events, created by playing the H-series through to a logical conclusion, have reduced Vaasa to its former status as an unclaimed wilderness (rich adventuring territory!). The various provinces of Damara weave a
web of political intrigue that should provide plenty for PCs to disentangle.
Section 2: What the Neighbors Think introduces Narfell and Impiltur, neighboring kingdoms with a vested interest in Vaasa and Damara. Narfell and Impiltur could themselves support a fine campaign. For this book, however, and in the context of the Bloodstone Lands, they are treated as icing on the cake that is Vaasa and Damara.
Section 3: Societies of the Bloodstone Lands presents the culture and flavor of the land. This section details religion, currency, races, and classes, all of which transform a campaign from a dice-rolling exercise into a role-playing event worthy of daydreams.
Section 4: Cities, Towns, and Villages, and Section 5: The Geography of the Region look at the physical geography and locales that PCs will encounter. Included are descriptions of various communities, their usual attitude toward strangers, and a general feel of the
more distinctive locations.
Section 6: Strongholds, Ruins, and Dungeons goes a step further, providing specific adventuring sites and "home base" locations for the players. In the Bloodstone Lands, knowing where to find trouble, and where to go to escape it, can mean the difference between a successful adventure and disaster.
The next two sections, Section 7:
Movers and Shakers and Section 8:
Traveling Bands and Organizations, give a Dungeon Master many of the NPCs that his players will encounter in the region (or PCs they may choose to run). These are the characters who
might help the PCs out of a jam or put them into one!
Finally, Section 9: The Bloodstone Lands Campaign gives some suggestions for potential adventures. It must be noted that one of these involves having your players run through the H-series of modules, rewriting the last two years of history. This could pose a problem to
Dungeon Masters using this sourcebook, as the outcome of the game may alter the situations described herein. Therefore, this section also offers tips to less-experienced Dungeon Masters.
The Dungeon Master may have to deal with his players deciding on different life-courses for the major PCs, particularly for Gareth Dragonsbane who is regarded here as the central power figure of the entire region. Crafty Dungeon Masters will slip around this by focusing on other NPCs. For example, Baron Tranth or Lady Christine can fill in any gaps in the political structures left by an uncooperative Gareth.
The set also includes a series of maps covering: Impiltur, Narfell, Ashanath, Damara and Vaasa.
If this is the item you're looking for what other information do you need?
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Lord Rad
Great Reader
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Posted - 03 Sep 2002 : 10:15:45
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Thanks for the info Kahonen. The product you refer to in your post is on of the regional sourcebooks (i loved those accessories!). The H1 box set that i mentioned is part of an adventure series often called the Bloodstone Quartet, and includes:
H1 - Bloodstone Pass
H2 - The Mines of Bloodstone
H3 - The Bloodstone Wars
H4 - The Throne of Bloodstone
They are all quite hard to locate but i hear that theyre quite good! (I have H2 and H4 but id love to get the remaining two modules)
Rad
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kahonen
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 03 Sep 2002 : 13:36:37
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Now I understand the confusion:
Bloodstone Pass (H1) isn't officially listed as a Forgotten Realms product. It was actually the first module released by TSR for the Battlesystem Table Top Wargaming Rules. It's product code was 9122 and it was released in 1985.
The description on the back of the product reads:
Bloodstone Pass Fantasy Game Adventure
Douglas Niles and Michael Dobson
This adventure is designed for use with the ADVANCED DUNGEONS & DRAGONS game system and the AD&D BATTLESYSTEM Fantasy Combat Supplement. It cannot be played without these games produced by TSR, Inc. Components:
1 32-page adventure booklet
1 24-page army and character booklet
104 die-cut counters
12 3-D ADVENTURE FOLD-UP sheets
The first BATTLESYSTEM Supermodule from TSR, Inc!
The tiny village of Bloodstone Pass is menaced by an army of thousands of brigands, orcs, goblins, giants, and human renegades led by a powerful assassin. Outnumbered and helpless, the villagers must pay tribute in gold, food . . . slaves.
Two villagers have traveled far to find aid for their people. They have turned to you, brave and powerful adventurers, as their only hope. They cannot afford to pay more than a few silver pieces a day, but their need is great. You are invited to save the people of Bloodstone Pass. Can you organize a defense, train and equip the peasants, recruit allies, gather
intelligence . . . and win the war? BLOODSTONE PASS is an exciting goodaligned, high-level (15+) adventure that combines
roleplaying with the thrill of mass combat. A complete 3-D ADVENTURE FOLD-UP village makes the battle come alive!
Hope this helps. I've got two of the other three in the set (can't remember which ones they are) but not here so I can't give you any info on them. When I can get access to them I'll post the details
kahonen
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saylor_n
Acolyte
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Posted - 05 Sep 2002 : 23:23:53
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| Kahonen is absolutley correct in his information. As far as obtaining a copy, good luck. I performed a DAILY search of E-bay for almost two years before I found a copy of H1 suitable for my collection. However, I highly reccommend E-bay as a source. |
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king-tiax
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 06 Sep 2002 : 18:30:00
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Charles Phipps
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
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Posted - 10 Jan 2007 : 02:50:23
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Originally posted by Charles Phipps
NECROMANCY!
What happened to Vaasa?
It's still a monster-infested, lawless wasteland. |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
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Posted - 10 Jan 2007 : 02:55:59
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quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
quote:
Originally posted by Charles Phipps
NECROMANCY!
What happened to Vaasa?
It's still a monster-infested, lawless wasteland.
Someone hasnt read RA Salvatores latest novel
Spoiler below
Vaasa is now part of Damara
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Delzounblood
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
578 Posts |
Posted - 10 Jan 2007 : 10:25:32
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Lord Rad,
There are 4 x H1 Bloodstone Pass on Ebay at the moment!!!
1 on auction from the UK but has a reserve!
3 on Buy it now but from the USA
the buy it nows start at $69.95 for an incomplete and go up to $151.26 and $299.95 all plus shipping which for a boxed set can be expensive!
I am always looking for a copy myself to resell but not at those prices!
I did bid for the UK one but I did not meet the reserve!
Good Luck
Delz
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 10 Jan 2007 : 23:37:04
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Originally posted by Dargoth
quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
quote:
Originally posted by Charles Phipps
NECROMANCY!
What happened to Vaasa?
It's still a monster-infested, lawless wasteland.
Someone hasnt read RA Salvatores latest novel
Spoiler below
Vaasa is now part of Damara
Excuse me? I have read it, thank you, and no where in that novel is it stated that Vaasa is now a part of Damara. In Gareth's last scene, he still mentions how hard he is working to clear it out and annex it, which wouldn't be the case if it was already his. |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
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Posted - 10 Jan 2007 : 23:40:50
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Originally posted by Charles Phipps
Well I for one AM SHOCKED, SHOCKED, SHOCKED!
That I didn't realize that was the change ;-)
It wasn't. Like I said, in Gareth's final scene he is still TRYING to forge the kingdom of Bloodstone. He does not officially rule Vaasa. It is not stated anywhere in the novel that that is the case (and no, the note from Jarlaxle didn't hand over an entire, monster-infested country to Gareth--his words were part of his little plot to rescue Artemis, and save his own skin).
Dargoth is wrong, and jumping to conclusions. Reading comprehension, people (I'll say that if people are going to assume what I've read and what I haven't). He's also forgetting that this novel took place in the PAST, and before the current FRCS, which states that both countries are still separate. |
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Crennen FaerieBane
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 11 Jan 2007 : 16:22:19
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You know, as long as that silly Nihmedu elf lives in Vaasa, I am for razing the whole entire land. Geh!
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 11 Jan 2007 : 17:26:58
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Originally posted by Delzounblood
Lord Rad,
There are 4 x H1 Bloodstone Pass on Ebay at the moment!!!
1 on auction from the UK but has a reserve!
3 on Buy it now but from the USA
the buy it nows start at $69.95 for an incomplete and go up to $151.26 and $299.95 all plus shipping which for a boxed set can be expensive!
I am always looking for a copy myself to resell but not at those prices!
I did bid for the UK one but I did not meet the reserve!
Good Luck
Delz
Nobleknight also got most of these modules in yesterday. They are listed under the 1e D&D material, not the FR material. He has Blood Pass for 50 instead of the 80 to 200. :) |
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Jamallo Kreen
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 19 Aug 2008 : 00:02:52
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Will someone tell me, please: which module features a detailed map of Ashanath?
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Pandora
Learned Scribe
Germany
305 Posts |
Posted - 19 Aug 2008 : 03:12:05
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Originally posted by Dargoth
Someone hasnt read RA Salvatores latest novel
I have stopped reading RA Salvatore after the 3rd time of "Drizzt fight ... bla bla ... mesmerizing dance of death ... dead opponent", so Vaasa is still ruled by Zhengyi until he gets killed by the players.
H1 is basically a D&D version of The seven Samurai with a town still ruled by a hereditary noble. |
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Jorkens
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Posted - 19 Aug 2008 : 11:13:31
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Originally posted by Pandora
[quote]Originally posted by Dargoth
H1 is basically a D&D version of The seven Samurai with a town still ruled by a hereditary noble.
That actually tempts me to buy the module. Love that movie. |
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Pandora
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 19 Aug 2008 : 12:59:19
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Originally posted by Jorkens
quote:
Originally posted by Pandora
[quote]Originally posted by Dargoth
H1 is basically a D&D version of The seven Samurai with a town still ruled by a hereditary noble.
That actually tempts me to buy the module. Love that movie.
If you have the movie in mind you can picture the events much easier, although you have to translate them into a FR style. One of the best modules ever created IMO. |
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Zanan
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Posted - 19 Aug 2008 : 20:14:52
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Now, honestly, unless you really really need an original, why don't you get a PDF copy over at RPGnow or Paizo and either print it at home or in the copyshop of your choice? For home use only, of course?
The Bloodstone Pass sourcebook is one of the finest of that age. |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
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Posted - 19 Aug 2008 : 20:42:33
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Originally posted by Jamallo Kreen
Will someone tell me, please: which module features a detailed map of Ashanath?
The Unapproachable East has a good one in it, and its the most up-to-date.
I'm working on a new one of the NE (Moonsea. Bloodstone Lands, Nar) right now...
The Best I have to offer ATM is my Thesk WIP. |
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Jamallo Kreen
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 27 Aug 2008 : 06:46:10
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Very nice, map, indeed!
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Brimstone
Great Reader
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Posted - 27 Aug 2008 : 21:57:18
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-Another exellent map Markus! 
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Ahwe Yahzhe
Acolyte
Iraq
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Posted - 01 Sep 2008 : 22:38:13
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Did you say NEW MAP OF THE MOONSEA?
(drool)
Share, yes? I have no artistic ability, but wanted a version that includes all the landmarks of Thar from both Sons of Gruumsh and the Mysteries of Moonsea... even if the two governments described for Melvaunt are incompatible. (SoG followed previous sourcebooks, while MoM changed it into something else...) I'll use the 100-year gap in my 4e FR campaign to reintroduce Melvaunt as a reluctant ally of the other Moonsea cities and Cormanthor, with Thar still a threat in their backyard.
BTW, did any body else notice that Phlan is back in 4e FR? Thought that town was toast... |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Posted - 02 Sep 2008 : 01:20:36
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Originally posted by Ahwe Yahzhe
BTW, did any body else notice that Phlan is back in 4e FR?
I didn't think that was much of a surprise. As Grand History indicated (SPOILER):- In 1375 DR Zhentil Keep marched in and took over Phlan. |
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Pandora
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 09 Sep 2008 : 12:01:00
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Btw. the excellent Northern Journey campaign has some pretty good and detailed background for the H1-4 modules (part 7). Sadly this material is soooooooooo extensive that its a long read.  |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
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Posted - 13 Sep 2008 : 21:15:02
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Has anyone else had trouble opening up those files? All the other Northern Journey files open just fine for me, but for some reason I get an 'error message' whenever I try to un-compress any of the Bloodstone files. Windows just says "Unrecognized Compression Format". Its weird, because I would think ALL the NJ journals would be the same format, but none of the others are giving me that problem. 
If someone wants to be a pal and re-compress them and send them to me, I'd be most grateful. I used the NJ map of Impiltur for a reference when I did my version, and it worked out very well, and now that I'm working on both a 3e and 4e version of the Bloodstonne Lands, I could use all the help I can get.
I found a great little story about Vassa in Realms of Shadow that dates back before Zhengyi, so now I have to put all those cute little marshes and moors back on the map.
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Originally posted by Ahwe Yahzhe
Did you say NEW MAP OF THE MOONSEA?
(drool)
Yes, I'm combining ALL of the 1e/2e/3e sources, along with any applicable 4e ones (like ruins, which should have been there in 3e, even if created for 4e). There was a strange map of Thar posted awhile back to go with a Rich Baker article, and it made a lot more sense once his novel Swordmage came out (at the time, I think people were asssuming it was a 3e map of Thar).
Also trying to get some locales from the Pools of... series, but some of the stuff just doesn't jibe (like the complete lack of taking into account Zhentil Keep).
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 14 Sep 2008 : 01:31:26
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Originally posted by Markustay
Has anyone else had trouble opening up those files? All the other Northern Journey files open just fine for me, but for some reason I get an 'error message' whenever I try to un-compress any of the Bloodstone files. Windows just says "Unrecognized Compression Format". Its weird, because I would think ALL the NJ journals would be the same format, but none of the others are giving me that problem.
If someone wants to be a pal and re-compress them and send them to me, I'd be most grateful. I used the NJ map of Impiltur for a reference when I did my version, and it worked out very well, and now that I'm working on both a 3e and 4e version of the Bloodstonne Lands, I could use all the help I can get.
I'll look into the archives and see if there's a problem, Markus. |
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Jamallo Kreen
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 14 Sep 2008 : 03:11:01
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I had no trouble unzipping any of the files on a Mac, but I have no idea what application is needed to open a file with the "fcw" extension.
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Markustay
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Posted - 14 Sep 2008 : 16:14:46
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Originally posted by The Sage
I'll look into the archives and see if there's a problem, Markus.
Thanxs, Sage.
You too, JK - I hadn't noticed the file ext thing. I've solved problems running videos before just by chnaging the ext, so that may work here as well. |
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