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The Sage
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Posted - 26 Mar 2005 :  15:46:35  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'll field this one...

With the latest hipe about CBT novels being published in German, FanPro have moved to secure the rights to bring these tales into English. Stackpole has already put his name forth for the authorship of the series if all goes well with the publishers.

And to keep this Realms-related... the last FR novel to make me say "Wow" was Elminster's Daughter.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 26 Mar 2005 :  16:36:26  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

I'll field this one...

With the latest hipe about CBT novels being published in German, FanPro have moved to secure the rights to bring these tales into English. Stackpole has already put his name forth for the authorship of the series if all goes well with the publishers.


Too cool... His stuff is some of the best in the CBT universe. I loved the way he used the major players, and made the entire univrse move forward, instead of just sticking with small companies like most of the other authors.

The only books I rank up there with his stuff are Wolf Pack, Binding Force, and those two books about the Northwind Highlanders.

Oh, and when I did my Adventure Hooks for the next compendium, I worked in a semi-BattleTech reference. I'm sure you'll catch it.

quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

And to keep this Realms-related... the last FR novel to make me say "Wow" was Elminster's Daughter.




I've said more than once that I'm not a huge fan of Ed Greenwood's fiction. Due to the many posts of the lovely Lady Hooded One, I've come to realize that a lot of that was the way the editorial axe had been applied to the books...

But man, I loved Elminster's Daughter. It was just a great book, and it definitely made a "Wow!" spring forth.

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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 26 Mar 2005 :  16:39:29  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I've said more than once that I'm not a huge fan of Ed Greenwood's fiction. Due to the many posts of the lovely Lady Hooded One, I've come to realize that a lot of that was the way the editorial axe had been applied to the books...



Yes, that information was enlightening was it not?
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 26 Mar 2005 :  16:55:44  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I've said more than once that I'm not a huge fan of Ed Greenwood's fiction. Due to the many posts of the lovely Lady Hooded One, I've come to realize that a lot of that was the way the editorial axe had been applied to the books...



Yes, that information was enlightening was it not?



Indeed. I was also impressed with the fact that I posted my few quibbles with the book, and Ed took the time to reply. He even agreed with me on one of them! I'm really impressed to see an author do that.

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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 26 Mar 2005 :  17:09:57  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Indeed. I was also impressed with the fact that I posted my few quibbles with the book, and Ed took the time to reply. He even agreed with me on one of them! I'm really impressed to see an author do that.



I've often said that more authors need to realize WR is right on most matters.

But do they listen.....
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Posted - 26 Mar 2005 :  17:46:58  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Indeed. I was also impressed with the fact that I posted my few quibbles with the book, and Ed took the time to reply. He even agreed with me on one of them! I'm really impressed to see an author do that.



I've often said that more authors need to realize WR is right on most matters.

But do they listen.....




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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 26 Mar 2005 :  19:37:29  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert




See, do I stick up for my fellow Feist fans or what?
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 26 Mar 2005 :  19:46:49  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert




See, do I stick up for my fellow Feist fans or what?



You do indeed. BTW, on the topic of Feist, check the e-mail I just sent you.

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The Sage
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Posted - 27 Mar 2005 :  16:48:11  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

Oh, and when I did my Adventure Hooks for the next compendium, I worked in a semi-BattleTech reference. I'm sure you'll catch it.
I'm looking forward to it... .

quote:
I've said more than once that I'm not a huge fan of Ed Greenwood's fiction. Due to the many posts of the lovely Lady Hooded One, I've come to realize that a lot of that was the way the editorial axe had been applied to the books...
I've expressed my personal gripe about that elsewhere, so I don't feel the need to do it here. I do wonder though, what unedited Greenwood would truly be like... .

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 27 Mar 2005 :  17:42:22  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

I do wonder though, what unedited Greenwood would truly be like... .




It's definitely something I should like to read.

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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 27 Mar 2005 :  18:41:13  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
I do wonder though, what unedited Greenwood would truly be like... .




A much thicker novel it would be at least or one that would require much smaller font if they wished to keep the same page count.
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Erik Scott de Bie
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Posted - 28 Mar 2005 :  03:53:25  Show Profile  Visit Erik Scott de Bie's Homepage Send Erik Scott de Bie a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Like Steve, shouldn't take sides, but I can echo sentiments about:

Forsaken House
Condemnation


as my latest mind-bashers, and throw in:

Twilight Falling

as well.

Then again, I've never read a Realms novel I didn't like for one reason or another.

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The Sage
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Posted - 28 Mar 2005 :  13:43:14  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack

quote:
Originally posted by The Sage
I do wonder though, what unedited Greenwood would truly be like... .




A much thicker novel it would be at least or one that would require much smaller font if they wished to keep the same page count.

And what to write about?

Oh, where to begin... .

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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 02 Apr 2005 :  07:23:15  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The last book to truly WOW me was Viper's Kiss, by Lisa Smedman. It was not only as good as the first installment in the House of Serpents trilogy, it surpassed it. It has a mature storyline and compelling characters--I wholeheartedly recommend it. If you haven't checked out the Serpent novels yet, do so, and you'll be glad you did.

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The Sage
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Posted - 02 Apr 2005 :  11:40:15  Show Profile Send The Sage a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm hoping I'll have the same reaction.

I haven't had the opportunity to read my copy of Viper's Kiss yet...

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 02 Apr 2005 :  16:03:47  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

I'm hoping I'll have the same reaction.

I haven't had the opportunity to read my copy of Viper's Kiss yet...




Nor have I...

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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 02 Apr 2005 :  17:10:56  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin

The last book to truly WOW me was Viper's Kiss, by Lisa Smedman. It was not only as good as the first installment in the House of Serpents trilogy, it surpassed it. It has a mature storyline and compelling characters--I wholeheartedly recommend it. If you haven't checked out the Serpent novels yet, do so, and you'll be glad you did.



Glad to hear you liked it as well. I have yet to encounter a novel by Lisa Smedman that I did not enjoy.
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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 02 Apr 2005 :  17:12:29  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Nor have I...



Sniff, and they call themselves Realms fans or Great Readers.
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Alaundo
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Posted - 02 Apr 2005 :  18:50:34  Show Profile  Visit Alaundo's Homepage Send Alaundo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by The Sage

I'm hoping I'll have the same reaction.

I haven't had the opportunity to read my copy of Viper's Kiss yet...




Nor have I...



::choke, splutter::

..furthermore, I recall that The Sage has managed to find the time to read these....Eber...Eberoon novels!

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 02 Apr 2005 :  19:47:08  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Nor have I...



Sniff, and they call themselves Realms fans or Great Readers.



Well, I did just finish reading a tome with plenty of stuff that can be ported to the Realms... I believe you have it, as well: Faeries.

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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 03 Apr 2005 :  01:41:32  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Well I did just finish reading a tome with plenty of stuff that can be ported to the Realms... I believe you have it, as well: Faeries.



Nope. That's not a tome I own. Nice try buddy, but you're going to have to share the cell of false Great Readers with The Sage alone.
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Wooly Rupert
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quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack

quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Well I did just finish reading a tome with plenty of stuff that can be ported to the Realms... I believe you have it, as well: Faeries.



Nope. That's not a tome I own. Nice try buddy, but you're going to have to share the cell of false Great Readers with The Sage alone.



I must have been thinking of Kuje and the Sage.

But hey, Steven Schend was the editor for the aforementioned tome. That's gotta count for something.

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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Posted - 03 Apr 2005 :  05:45:35  Show Profile  Visit Rinonalyrna Fathomlin's Homepage Send Rinonalyrna Fathomlin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack

quote:
Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin

The last book to truly WOW me was Viper's Kiss, by Lisa Smedman. It was not only as good as the first installment in the House of Serpents trilogy, it surpassed it. It has a mature storyline and compelling characters--I wholeheartedly recommend it. If you haven't checked out the Serpent novels yet, do so, and you'll be glad you did.



Glad to hear you liked it as well. I have yet to encounter a novel by Lisa Smedman that I did not enjoy.



Same here, actually. :) She is a talented writer.

Wooly and Sage, I'm sure you'll enjoy Viper's Kiss, read it next. ;)

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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 03 Apr 2005 :  06:43:57  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
But hey, Steven Schend was the editor for the aforementioned tome. That's gotta count for something.



Who?

Not to mention Jim Butler is President of the Company if I recall correctly...and that's name that should ring a bell to gaming fans.
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Paec_djinn
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Posted - 03 Apr 2005 :  14:57:17  Show Profile  Visit Paec_djinn's Homepage Send Paec_djinn a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'll have to change Condemnation to Crucible: Trials of Cyric the Mad. Condemnation while it's still a good book just didn't match Crucible's plot.
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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 03 Apr 2005 :  17:25:18  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
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I'll have to change Condemnation to Crucible: Trials of Cyric the Mad. Condemnation while it's still a good book just didn't match Crucible's plot.



What about the latter's plot do you feel made it a better choice?
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Chosen of Bane
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quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack

quote:
Originally posted by Paec_djinn

I'll have to change Condemnation to Crucible: Trials of Cyric the Mad. Condemnation while it's still a good book just didn't match Crucible's plot.



What about the latter's plot do you feel made it a better choice?



Paec_djinn gave a very detailed review of this novel here:
http://www.candlekeep.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=4083

I tend to agree as Crucible is my favorite realms novel of all time.
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Paec_djinn
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Mostly originality, the trial and the many unexpected twists in the story. Other than that, I can only point you to the link CoB passed.
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Basara
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The last FR novel that had the "Wow" factor for me was Dissolution, Insurrection was a bit of a let down and from the reviews of the other three I'm sceptical.

As for a non-FR novel, Wicked, The Life and Times of the Wicked Witch of the West! What a beautiful, seductive novel written by Gregory Maguire. The author has remarkable wordcraft and I found myself falling in love with the wicked witch. It's magical! I'd reccommend it to everyone. Give it a shot, it might leave you spellbound.
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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 05 Apr 2005 :  03:22:54  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
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The last FR novel that had the "Wow" factor for me was Dissolution, Insurrection was a bit of a let down



What about the latter novel let you down?
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