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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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 Posted - 15 Dec 2008 : 15:07:22
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Originally posted by Alisttair
I hope WotC realizes, however, that the Candlekeep Compendium is non-profit and is thus some form of free advertisement for their own products.
While that makes sense, not everything WotC has done of late makes sense... And I know of some non-WotC IPs that their owners are quite fierce on having no material other than their own out there. |
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
3054 Posts |
Posted - 15 Dec 2008 : 16:21:41
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
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Originally posted by Alisttair
I hope WotC realizes, however, that the Candlekeep Compendium is non-profit and is thus some form of free advertisement for their own products.
While that makes sense, not everything WotC has done of late makes sense...
Good point there Wooly  |
Karsite Arcanar (Most Holy Servant of Karsus)
Anauria - Survivor State of Netheril as penned by me:
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
7915 Posts |
Posted - 13 Apr 2009 : 06:00:55
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Sigh,
I actually wanna work on my articles again. :( and I've been making mental notes about some NPC's for my Laborers article(s).
SIGH.
Wish Wizards could release their fan policy! |
For some of us, books are as important as almost anything else on earth. What a miracle it is that out of these small, flat, rigid squares of paper unfolds world after world, worlds that sing to you, comfort and quiet and excite you... Books are full of the things that you don't get in real life - wonderful, lyrical language, for instance, right off the bat. - Anne Lamott, Bird by Bird
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edappel
Learned Scribe
Brazil
211 Posts |
Posted - 13 Apr 2009 : 15:06:37
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| Keep writing! When fan policy comes, you should have 10 compendiuns to post! ;) |
--- Ed Appel
*** I'm a brazilian FR fan. So, feel free to correct my writing mistakes to improve my english. |
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
3054 Posts |
Posted - 14 Apr 2009 : 11:52:57
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| I know how you feel Kuje (except in my case, I have written a rather large article that I wrote almost a year ago that I sent to Alaundo and he said it would make the next Compendium - although this was just when 4E was about to release and things got on hold)....but I do have some other ideas in mind, especially to expand on my yet to be released article. Hurry Wizards hurry with that fan policy darnit!! |
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Anauria - Survivor State of Netheril as penned by me:
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Fillow
Master of Realmslore
France
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 19 Apr 2009 : 22:56:36
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Originally posted by Fillow
Dear Admin and/or Mods,
Does it exist a copyright about CK's compendium ?
What I'd like to know is "Do you mind if I translate few articles into a French website ?"
The blurb on the back page of each issue reads:
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Copyright Notice
The material contained in this document remains the property of the respective authors. This document and its content can not be reproduced or contained on any other web site or location without first obtaining permission from Candlekeep.
So I'm guessing that Big Al would need to give his okay, and then the individual authors would have to give theirs, too.
I once found a reference to one of my articles on a Chinese website. That was really cool.  |
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Fillow
Master of Realmslore
France
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 20 Apr 2009 : 04:59:29
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Originally posted by Fillow
Thanks a lot Wooly.
Sorry for having missed to look for the info by my self. 
No worries. Sometimes things get overlooked.  |
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Matt James
Forgotten Realms Game Designer
USA
918 Posts |
Posted - 08 Jul 2009 : 12:35:04
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| I hope the Fan policy comes out soon. Maybe I can inquire with WotC while at Gen Con? I would really love to contribute to this project. I have a ton of material! |
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
USA
3243 Posts |
Posted - 08 Jul 2009 : 13:33:42
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| Heh... Matt, I've been the one posting the fan-site policy 'bumps' over on the WotC boards. The updates we've been getting from Scott Rouse are pretty much it. It's been stuck in Legal for a while now. |
I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.
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Ayrik
Great Reader
Canada
7989 Posts |
Posted - 15 Oct 2010 : 11:37:57
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Just bumping this scroll, it's gotten a little dusty ...
Is there any word on the status of Candlekeep Compendium? Is it abandoned? |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
3054 Posts |
Posted - 15 Oct 2010 : 14:20:00
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| Anyone willing to venture into Limbo to save it??? |
Karsite Arcanar (Most Holy Servant of Karsus)
Anauria - Survivor State of Netheril as penned by me:
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Ayrik
Great Reader
Canada
7989 Posts |
Posted - 28 Oct 2010 : 23:06:25
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| Aha, well, it's been more than a tenday now. I'm guessing this is a dead scroll and CK-X has been abandoned indefinitely. I offer my own services to assist in the project, as humble and outdated as my lore might be. |
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Daviot
Senior Scribe
USA
372 Posts |
Posted - 28 Oct 2010 : 23:16:05
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Well, last any of us have heard, WotC's fansite policy was (and is) not particularly high on their to-do list, and any official compendium will have to wait on said currently-not-extant policy.
It's a bummer, as most of us scribes might agree. |
One usually has far more to fear from the soft-spoken wizard with a blade and well-worn boots than from the boisterous one in the ivory tower.
My Tabletop Writing CV. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31774 Posts |
Posted - 29 Oct 2010 : 00:44:28
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Originally posted by Arik
Aha, well, it's been more than a tenday now. I'm guessing this is a dead scroll and CK-X has been abandoned indefinitely.
Never abandoned. It's simply still in publishing limbo, as I said earlier. |
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
3054 Posts |
Posted - 29 Oct 2010 : 12:04:30
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| Arik, you will have to drive to Wizards HQ and demand in person that they release the policy. It is being held there in captivity by the Hasbro team. |
Karsite Arcanar (Most Holy Servant of Karsus)
Anauria - Survivor State of Netheril as penned by me:
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Ayrik
Great Reader
Canada
7989 Posts |
Posted - 30 Oct 2010 : 00:17:49
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| Ha convince the wizards to release something that might - one day, perhaps - be used to generate power and wealth? I'd probably have better luck driving to Shadowdale to demand in person that Elminster gives me his pipe. It seems highly improbable I'd succeed. |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 02 Nov 2010 : 19:05:05
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Netbooks can still be published - we just can't involve CK. 
Snowblood's been doing a fine job of it all by himself, and Dalor Darden's Ixinos supplement is also noteworthy. Also, lets not forget Lord Karsus' fine Elves of Faerun.
We just can't, unfortunately, use this site to host them anymore, which is sad because it lent them (and it's contributors) some credibility.  |
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Zireael
Master of Realmslore
Poland
1190 Posts |
Posted - 03 Nov 2010 : 18:53:51
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Originally posted by Markustay
Netbooks can still be published - we just can't involve CK.
Snowblood's been doing a fine job of it all by himself, and Dalor Darden's Ixinos supplement is also noteworthy. Also, lets not forget Lord Karsus' fine Elves of Faerun.
We just can't, unfortunately, use this site to host them anymore, which is sad because it lent them (and it's contributors) some credibility.
Why not? |
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Ayrik
Great Reader
Canada
7989 Posts |
Posted - 10 Nov 2010 : 11:16:23
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| I'd guess it's because Wizbro aggressively protects the brand with NDAs that restrict what many of our foremost CK scribes can divulge. |
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Markustay
Realms Explorer extraordinaire
USA
15724 Posts |
Posted - 10 Nov 2010 : 23:48:37
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Because they are being very non-specific about fan-sites, allowing then to 'target them as needed'. Creating a very specific fansite policy allows people to find 'loopholes', so leaving everything vague leaves the ball entirely in their court.
CandleKeep no longer knows exactly what it is allowed to do at this point, which is even worse then knowing what it can't do. They've basically placed us in a state of suspended animation.
Its brilliant, really. They hold all the cards.
I applaud them for doing something right (from a purely business PoV). |
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
3054 Posts |
Posted - 11 Nov 2010 : 11:37:17
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| Bah! They like Candlekeep. If they hated us, they would have attacked the prior volumes of the Compendium. I'm going with what Matt said (which feels like forevor ago) and agree we should go ahead. Just put a fanlore notice or something on the cover, I dunno. Some kind of idea like that if anyone has one that is better. |
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
3054 Posts |
Posted - 11 Nov 2010 : 11:38:26
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| Oh and keep it crunch free (all fluffy fan made lore). |
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Anauria - Survivor State of Netheril as penned by me:
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 11 Nov 2010 : 12:49:14
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Originally posted by Alisttair
Bah! They like Candlekeep. If they hated us, they would have attacked the prior volumes of the Compendium.
We know they tolerate us. I haven't seen enough info to say whether or not they like us.
But considering the sometimes strong anti-4E sentiment, I doubt we're their favorite fan site.
Prior volumes of the Compendium were released before 4E -- before the negativity, before the "fan site kit" that basically said you couldn't criticize them, and before WotC had some websites shut down. It's a different world, now. |
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
3054 Posts |
Posted - 11 Nov 2010 : 13:54:54
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
We know they tolerate us. I haven't seen enough info to say whether or not they like us.down. It's a different world, now.
Well we are aknowledged in many of the novels (not just from the authors themselves).
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
But considering the sometimes strong anti-4E sentiment, I doubt we're their favorite fan site.down. It's a different world, now.
Yeah, but surely they must know that not all of us here are anti-4E??
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Prior volumes of the Compendium were released before 4E -- before the negativity, before the "fan site kit" that basically said you couldn't criticize them, and before WotC had some websites shut down. It's a different world, now.
Couldn't they attack those now anyways (in a ret-con sort of way)?? there wouldn't be any criticism in the Compendium. The sites that were shut down were mostly ones that broke copyright laws (full access to powers) or had their own character builders. Basically, stuff that would cause Wizards to lose money, whereas the Compendium, if anything (with some printed FR books coming our way), would potentially help renew interest in the Realms and make them money. That's how I see it anyways 
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Anauria - Survivor State of Netheril as penned by me:
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
USA
3243 Posts |
Posted - 11 Nov 2010 : 15:29:00
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Originally posted by AlisttairWell we are aknowledged in many of the novels (not just from the authors themselves).
Actually, the only acknowledgments that Candlekeep (the site/forums) we have are from the authors. Candlekeep the place was around in the Realms and is the basis for the website, not vice versa. |
I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.
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Zireael
Master of Realmslore
Poland
1190 Posts |
Posted - 11 Nov 2010 : 15:31:58
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Originally posted by Alisttair
Couldn't they attack those now anyways (in a ret-con sort of way)?? there wouldn't be any criticism in the Compendium. The sites that were shut down were mostly ones that broke copyright laws (full access to powers) or had their own character builders. Basically, stuff that would cause Wizards to lose money, whereas the Compendium, if anything (with some printed FR books coming our way), would potentially help renew interest in the Realms and make them money. That's how I see it anyways
If it was so, I don't understand the Compendium being put on a shelf. It does not violate copyright nor does it cause WotC to lose money. |
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Alisttair
Great Reader
Canada
3054 Posts |
Posted - 11 Nov 2010 : 15:36:53
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Originally posted by Ashe Ravenheart
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Originally posted by AlisttairWell we are aknowledged in many of the novels (not just from the authors themselves).
Actually, the only acknowledgments that Candlekeep (the site/forums) we have are from the authors. Candlekeep the place was around in the Realms and is the basis for the website, not vice versa.
I know that. I mean that some authors aknowledge candlekeep.com the site with thanks, while other novels have a quote from Alaundo with candlekeep.com written (the one from this website) on the back cover or inside somewhere(see Richard Lee Byers novels) where he speaks of Unholy or one of the Haunted Lands books. Correct me if I am wrong, but that addition to the book, wouldn't it be an executive or editorial move (which are WotC employees, not freelancers like the author himself)??? |
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