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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
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 Posted - 04 Feb 2005 : 08:02:13
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IN GERMANY!
grrrrrrrr
Well at least on tuesday Ill have Knight of the Old republic 2 to play while waiting for LEOF to come out on the 18th!
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Reefy
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
892 Posts |
Posted - 04 Feb 2005 : 10:31:39
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Anyone have a UK release date for it? Amazon.co.uk has it pegged at 30th March.  |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 04 Feb 2005 : 11:19:50
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Don't do that to me, Dargoth! You had me thinking it was out and that I was stuck waiting until next week (when I get paid again) to get it!  |
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Talinfein
Acolyte
Germany
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Posted - 04 Feb 2005 : 12:30:06
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Well, you gotta love the mailman that brings you The Rite, Mistress of the Night and Lost Empires of Faerűn...
So far it looks very interesting, though I only had a chance to flip through it. This book will certainly see a lot of use since my campaign draws heavily on Netheril and the return of Shade.
One feat that I really liked, mostly because it mimics a game mechanic introduced in Monte Cook´s Arcana Unearthed, is Arcane Manipulation. It basically allows you to unravel higher level spell slots into several lower level slots, i.e. if you use a 3rd level slot to power a 2nd level spell you don´t lose the remaining spell slot, but get to use it for a 1st level spell.
I also like the Olin Gisir PC, the idea of an elven keeper of dark secrets really appeals to me and adds to the mystery of a truly long-lived race.
I know this is more about mechanics than content, but from looking through the book I´m sure the rest is well worth the wait and money as well.
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 04 Feb 2005 : 13:22:21
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Originally posted by Dargoth
IN GERMANY!
grrrrrrrr
Tymora works in mysterious ways. |
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SirUrza
Master of Realmslore
USA
1283 Posts |
Posted - 04 Feb 2005 : 19:15:40
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| I'm confused, I thought this wasn't due out till sometime next month? |
"Evil prevails when good men fail to act."
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 04 Feb 2005 : 21:17:10
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Originally posted by SirUrza
I'm confused, I thought this wasn't due out till sometime next month?
With every product/novel, it seems there is a certain area that gets it ahead of the rest. For everyone else the middle of February is apparently when we can anticipate being able to purchase this product. |
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SirUrza
Master of Realmslore
USA
1283 Posts |
Posted - 04 Feb 2005 : 21:50:54
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| Better not be. I dropped my $25 certificate on Amazon for this book, Realms of Infamy (the only Realms of I was missing), and 2 other books all for $10 with free shipping. :) |
"Evil prevails when good men fail to act."
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Mystery_Man
Senior Scribe
USA
455 Posts |
Posted - 05 Feb 2005 : 00:30:30
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Originally posted by Dargoth
IN GERMANY!
Oh I would so HURT YOU right now if I could.  |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
4607 Posts |
Posted - 05 Feb 2005 : 02:05:15
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Mother of Bane!
SacredOne over at WOTC says its out in BRISBANE AUSTRALIA! |
“I am the King of Rome, and above grammar”
Emperor Sigismund
"Its good to be the King!"
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 05 Feb 2005 : 03:03:43
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Originally posted by SirUrza
Better not be. I dropped my $25 certificate on Amazon for this book, Realms of Infamy (the only Realms of I was missing), and 2 other books all for $10 with free shipping. :)
Better not be? You expect it sooner?
Speaking of Amazon. Since I order from Amazon so much as do two others in my house, I'm going to probably join Amazon Prime which provides for $79 annually, free two-day shipping on any orders. Anyone else heard about this deal yet?
Now if I can only get Amazon to get WOTC products the same time as B&N and BAM. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 05 Feb 2005 : 03:05:12
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Originally posted by Dargoth
Mother of Bane!
SacredOne over at WOTC says its out in BRISBANE AUSTRALIA!
Go fetch one for me Dargoth. I'll pay for the shipping.  |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 05 Feb 2005 : 05:03:50
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This brings to mind an argument I had with a woman in a bookstore, once. She insisted that she'd already read a particular novel in paperback, despite the fact that it had just come out in hardcover about two months previously. I pointed out that with that particular writer, his books never went to paperback in less than a year. Her response? "Well, in some parts of the country, books come out sooner than in other parts."
That was when I just walked away...  |
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SirUrza
Master of Realmslore
USA
1283 Posts |
Posted - 05 Feb 2005 : 05:26:37
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
Better not be? You expect it sooner?
Speaking of Amazon. Since I order from Amazon so much as do two others in my house, I'm going to probably join Amazon Prime which provides for $79 annually, free two-day shipping on any orders. Anyone else heard about this deal yet?
Now if I can only get Amazon to get WOTC products the same time as B&N and BAM.
More worried about it coming out earlier and Amazon shipping it later in March. :)
No I haven't heard of it. If free 2-day shipping is all they offer, not really worth it for me. However, I love the Amazon.Com credit card. :) |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
4607 Posts |
Posted - 05 Feb 2005 : 05:28:19
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Wohoooooooooooo
I just bagged myself the last one in Queensland, there going to ship it to me and should have it by Thursday at the latest!
By the way this place has been selling them since Wednesday |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
4607 Posts |
Posted - 05 Feb 2005 : 11:47:07
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Talinfein any chance you can post the LEOF spell list? (Its not listed in the contents Rich gave us)
Also what does it say about Bhaal and Mykrul? |
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SirUrza
Master of Realmslore
USA
1283 Posts |
Posted - 05 Feb 2005 : 13:42:31
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| Oh the grief. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 05 Feb 2005 : 13:51:01
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
This brings to mind an argument I had with a woman in a bookstore, once. She insisted that she'd already read a particular novel in paperback, despite the fact that it had just come out in hardcover about two months previously. I pointed out that with that particular writer, his books never went to paperback in less than a year. Her response? "Well, in some parts of the country, books come out sooner than in other parts."
That was when I just walked away...
Walked or stomped? She was partially right, the UK gets Martin and Feist before the U.S. I think it has something to do with compensation for the American Revolutionary War's outcome.
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 05 Feb 2005 : 13:52:28
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Originally posted by SirUrza
More worried about it coming out earlier and Amazon shipping it later in March. :)
Amazon is horrible at times, in my experiences, with getting the FR gaming products later than any other online vendor.
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However, I love the Amazon.Com credit card. :)
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31774 Posts |
Posted - 05 Feb 2005 : 16:03:56
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Originally posted by Dargoth
IN GERMANY!
grrrrrrrr
 Whoa... For a second there, I thought that I might have to use my quick access portal to Sydney in order to acquire your copy Dargoth... .
And then, for another second, while the scroll was opening I thought to myself... "See, you silly old sage. This is what happens when you miss a day here at the library"...  .
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Well at least on tuesday Ill have Knight of the Old republic 2 to play while waiting for LEOF to come out on the 18th!
 You've found a copy? I'm still looking... .
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Borch
Acolyte
Germany
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Posted - 05 Feb 2005 : 16:12:56
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Well, I'm not Talinfein, but I'm from Germany and in the possession of thr book.
So here we go, Dargoth...
The Spells:
Aura of the Sun (Clr4/Pal4)
Backblast (Wiz/Sor3)
Bloodbriars (Drd4,Sor/Wiz4)
Clearstone (Sor/Wiz3)
Crushing Sphere (Sor/Wiz6)
Ebon Ray of Death (Asn3, Sor/Wiz4)
Ghost Pipes (Brd1)
Know Bloodline (Clr3)
Mailed Might of the Magelords (Sor/Wiz5)
Nar Fiendbond (Clr7, Sor/Wiz7)
Nezram's Amethyst Aura (Sor/Wiz3)
Nezram's Emerald Energy Shield (Sor/Wiz4)
Nezram's Sapphire Screen of Shielding (Sor/Wiz5)
Ray of Resurgence (Clr1, Sor/Wiz2)
Sakkratar's Triple Strike (Sor/Wiz5)
Sandblast (Sor/Wiz6)
Shalantha's Delicate Disk ((Sor/Wiz6)
Srinshee's Spell Shift (Sor/Wiz9)
Storm Shield (Drd3/Clr3)
Sun Scepter (Clr6)
Theskyn's Hearty Heave (Sor/Wiz2)
Toothed Tentacle (Sor/Wiz2)
Tyche's Touch (Clr2)
As far as Bhaal and Myrkul are concerned, both these two and the other dead gods received a very short paragraph that talks about their portfolios and how they died. A table lists the dead gods domains (in Moander's case the Vile Darkness domain Corruption is along his domains), their favored weapon (w/out name) and their alignment and portfolios.
Ah, btw, finally bhaalspawn are canonized in a very short sentenced in Bhaal's description.
If other questions arise, feel free to ask, I'll be around for a while.
Happy gaming |
Sprich aus der Ferne,
heimliche Welt,
die sich so selten
zu mir gesellt |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31774 Posts |
Posted - 05 Feb 2005 : 16:28:09
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Originally posted by Borch
Ah, btw, finally bhaalspawn are canonized in a very short sentenced in Bhaal's description.
Fascinating...
If you can summarise the basic details, I'd like to know how this was justified in canon?
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Borch
Acolyte
Germany
21 Posts |
Posted - 05 Feb 2005 : 16:42:09
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Well, now trying to summarize one sentence.
It just says that Bhaal left a host of Bhaalspawn behind, who descended from him and try to regain his former divinity.
I'm afraid that's all. No other explanation or justification.
Greetings |
Sprich aus der Ferne,
heimliche Welt,
die sich so selten
zu mir gesellt |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 05 Feb 2005 : 16:45:27
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Originally posted by Borch
As far as Bhaal and Myrkul are concerned, both these two and the other dead gods received a very short paragraph that talks about their portfolios and how they died. A table lists the dead gods domains (in Moander's case the Vile Darkness domain Corruption is along his domains), their favored weapon (w/out name) and their alignment and portfolios.
Does it list other fallen deities, as well? |
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Borch
Acolyte
Germany
21 Posts |
Posted - 05 Feb 2005 : 17:14:30
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The Fallen Deities that each receive one or two short paragraphs of description are:
Amaunator
Auppenser
Bhaal
Gilgeam
Ibrandul
Leira
Moander
Myrkul
Ramman
Tchazzar
That's it.
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Sprich aus der Ferne,
heimliche Welt,
die sich so selten
zu mir gesellt |
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
7915 Posts |
Posted - 05 Feb 2005 : 17:50:03
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Originally posted by Borch
Ah, btw, finally bhaalspawn are canonized in a very short sentenced in Bhaal's description.
If other questions arise, feel free to ask, I'll be around for a while.
Happy gaming
HAHAHA. I don't want to say, "I told you so," to some people but I have to so! See I told you for years, Dargoth, that they were canon! :)  |
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SirUrza
Master of Realmslore
USA
1283 Posts |
Posted - 05 Feb 2005 : 22:00:37
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
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Originally posted by SirUrzaHowever, I love the Amazon.Com credit card. :)
It is a wonderful thing isn't it?
It is. It truely is. Never thought I'd acquire so many points. :) |
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Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
Great Reader
USA
7106 Posts |
Posted - 05 Feb 2005 : 22:27:49
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Originally posted by kuje31
HAHAHA. I don't want to say, "I told you so," to some people but I have to so! See I told you for years, Dargoth, that they were canon! :)
Yeah, but they are also mostly dead, aren't they? |
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
7915 Posts |
Posted - 05 Feb 2005 : 22:46:23
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Originally posted by Rinonalyrna Fathomlin
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Originally posted by kuje31
HAHAHA. I don't want to say, "I told you so," to some people but I have to so! See I told you for years, Dargoth, that they were canon! :)
Yeah, but they are also mostly dead, aren't they?
Aye that they are. :) Unless WOTC added more to them. :) |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
4607 Posts |
Posted - 05 Feb 2005 : 22:59:04
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Originally posted by kuje31
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Originally posted by Borch
Ah, btw, finally bhaalspawn are canonized in a very short sentenced in Bhaal's description.
If other questions arise, feel free to ask, I'll be around for a while.
Happy gaming
HAHAHA. I don't want to say, "I told you so," to some people but I have to so! See I told you for years, Dargoth, that they were canon! :)
My principal issue with the BG series is that the events are not covered in the source books for example theres no mention of Saradash being razed to the ground by an army of Fire Giants
While it would seem that WOTC have embraced the concept of Bhaalspawn we wave yet to see if they embrace the events in the BG series.
I imagine well have to wait for a "Empires of the Sand" source book before well find out unless theyve mentioned the sacking of Saradash in a timeline or something in LEOF |
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Kuje
Great Reader
USA
7915 Posts |
Posted - 05 Feb 2005 : 23:51:17
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Originally posted by Dargoth
My principal issue with the BG series is that the events are not covered in the source books for example theres no mention of Saradash being razed to the ground by an army of Fire Giants
While it would seem that WOTC have embraced the concept of Bhaalspawn we wave yet to see if they embrace the events in the BG series.
I imagine well have to wait for a "Empires of the Sand" source book before well find out unless theyve mentioned the sacking of Saradash in a timeline or something in LEOF
Smirks, then what is Lost Empires if not a sourcebook? Just admit it, your wrong. Also this further proves that the novels are canon. It's also amusing that WOTC redid thier novel web site and they kept the BG novels in that list. |
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