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Dargoth
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Posted - 22 Jan 2005 :  12:24:52  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic


4 Racial Feats for Chaond and Zenthyri characters, there meant to be equivelants for the Celestial/Fiendish Bloodline and Deepening Dakrness/Light to Daylight feats found in Races of Faerun

Axiomatic Bloodline

Prerequisites: Zenythri, base Fortitude, reflex and Will saves +1

Benefit: You gain the ability to cast protection from Chaos 3 times per day and Command once per day as spell like abilities with a caster level equal to your caster level

Critical Strike

Prerequisites: Able to use true strike as a spell-like ability

Benefit: When using your spell-like ability cast True strike, you may instead cast Keen edge. All other features of this ability (Caster level, and effects) are as if you were casting True strike. You can use your True strike ability two additional times per day, so if you normally could use true strike as a spell like ability 1/day you can now use it 3/day

For example, if you were an Zenythri, you could cast either True strike or Keen Edge three times per day as a spell-like ability, as if cast by a Wizard of your character level

Anarchic Bloodline

Prerequisites: Chaond, base Fortitude, reflex and Will saves +1

Benefit: You gain the ability to cast protection from Law 3 times per day and cause fear once per day as spell like abilities with a caster level equal to your caster level


Greater Shatter

Prerequisites: Able to use Shatter as a spell-like ability

Benefit: When using your spell-like ability cast Shatter, you may instead cast Shatter floor. All other features of this ability (Caster level, and effects) are as if you were casting Shatter. You can use your Shatter ability two additional times per day, so if you normally could use true strike as a spell like ability 1/day you can now use it 3/day

For example, if you were an Chaond, you could cast either Shatter or Shatter floor three times per day as a spell-like ability, as if cast by a Wizard of your character level

*Shatter floor is a spell from Magic of Faerun


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Edited by - Dargoth on 24 Jan 2005 22:49:18

Dargoth
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Posted - 24 Jan 2005 :  21:56:39  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote

Comments?

Do you think there balanced compared to there Tiefling/Aasamar counterparts in ROF?

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Edited by - Dargoth on 24 Jan 2005 22:50:33
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Posted - 24 Jan 2005 :  23:25:04  Show Profile  Visit Garen Thal's Homepage Send Garen Thal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I think Axiomatic Bloodline and Anarchic Bloodline work fine, and are proper equivalents to the celestial and fiendish versions in Races of Faerűn. Don't forget that these feats should be prerequisites for the other feats for their respective creature types, as in RoF.

The other feats, however, are a little more suspect, probably because keen edge doesn't have a higher-level equivalent, and because the difference between shatter and shatterfloor is huge--far more, in my opinion, than that between light and daylight. Shatterfloor is probably a better candidate for a feat like Eyes of Light than for this particular analog of feats.
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Dargoth
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Posted - 25 Jan 2005 :  02:28:04  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The 2 official feats Light to Daylight and Deepening Darkness upgrade to a third level spell ie Light to Daylight and Darkness to Deepening Darkness.

So one would assume that their equivelants should also upgrade to 3rd level spells (both Keen edge and Shatter floor are 3rd level spells)

So I dont see how my 2 feats are any more powerful than the official ones for the Aasamar and Tieflings

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Garen Thal
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The official feats have very limited effects, and must be evaluated for more than simply comparative level.

Light to Daylight increases to daylight (which expands the radius of the light shed, and causes problems for light-sensitive creatures), but it's still light for the purpose of countering darkness spells.

Deepening Darkness increases darkness tp deeper darkness, but only for the purposes of countering (or being countered by) light effects. The area of the darkness is not increased.

You'll note that neither of these feats increases the duration of the effect. They don't flatly increase to 3rd level; they increase some of the aspects of the spell to match that of a 3rd-level version.

By contrast, your Critical Strike takes a 1 round spell (true strike) and turns it to a 10 minute/level spell (keen edge). Greater Shatter turns a spell that only affects objects (shatter) and turns it into an area effect spell with a 15 ft. radius spread (shatterfloor). Unlike the RoF feats, your feats don't mitigate the increase in any way--caster level is of course the same, and "and effects" doesn't mean anything. Until they do, I wouldn't agree that these feats are balanced with what's in RoF.
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Dargoth
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Posted - 25 Jan 2005 :  03:38:47  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ok how about his

Replace Keen Edge with Align weapon: Lawful only

Its a much less useful spell than Keen edge which can be used on anyone, Align weapon: Lawful has a limited scope

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Edited by - Dargoth on 25 Jan 2005 03:45:22
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