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Reefy
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Posted - 14 Jan 2005 : 18:07:53
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Is there any information on this adventuring party around? I recall they established a hold in the High Forest, the name of which currently escapes me, and that Laeral was a member. Can any of our sages add anything else to this?
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Kentinal
Great Reader
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Posted - 14 Jan 2005 : 18:22:52
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"1337Year of the Wandering Maiden
* Charles Oliver O'Kane becomes mayor of Raven's Bluff. * The nobles of Yulash abolish the lordship and instead rule by council. * The adventuring band known as The Nine led by Laeral Silverhand, acquire the Crown of Horns. Laeral dons the headpiece and descends into madness. The band fragments into three warring factions and their lair, known as the Stronghold of the Nine and located along the banks of the Unicorn Run, becomes a battleground. " |
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Kuje
Great Reader
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Posted - 14 Jan 2005 : 18:26:42
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Laeral was one of them aye.
Two more of them were stat'd in The Seven Sisters.
Savage Frontier, The North, and the Volo's guide has info on thier holding. I think so does Silver Marches. |
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Edited by - Kuje on 14 Jan 2005 18:27:13 |
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Kentinal
Great Reader
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Posted - 14 Jan 2005 : 18:44:54
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A little more information.
1355 The Year of the Harp
High Forest, Stronghold of the Nine. -- About the Stronghold : During their adventures (probably before 1356 DR) the Nine, which were one of the most famous and powerful adventuring companies of the North, led by the Archmage Laeral (one of the Seven Sisters), found the former dwarfhold and rebuilt it. After they retired they made it their home. At this time, the Stronghold is known to have "strange and powerful magical guardians (including nagas and golems)". (See FR1, page 10). We also have the information that the Nine stored much of their gained treasure in the Stronghold, and that none of them were less than 14th level.
Their treasure was their downfall. Probably sometime between 1356 and 1358 DR the disagreement over The Crown of Horns, an artifact in Laeral's possession led to internal disputes and open war, with the Stronghold as the battlefield! In FR5, page 52 we see that now the Nine are only Five and the Stronghold is in turmoil. The above ground buildings are abandoned and in poor repair. The large underground complex is ill-defended and in constant warfare, as the 3 different factions of the remaining Five (helped by their followers - probably henchmen - and probably also by many strange summoned creatures), battle over the control of the evil Crown. It is said that the Five include a figther, a cleric, two mages and one thief (none of them below 15th level). One of the mages is Laeral, who is very changed from her former self (see FR5, page 58). Her mind warped by the crown, she is completely mad, and her age is catching fast, probably due to the failure of the magicks of longevity. Visitors to the Stronghold at this time are treated like intruders by her and her ex-comrades.
The rescuers were Khelben and Alustriel. The Blackstaff in person destroyed the Crown of Horns and liberated Laeral from its influence. They developed a strong bond and she became his consort. This probably happens sometime between 1358 DR and 1360 DR. (See Dragon #181, page 18, and "Running the Realms", in the New Boxed Set). After that Laeral created a Simlacrum of herself and left it at the Stronghold to deceive treasure- seekers. It is not known if any of the other four of the Nine survived. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
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Posted - 14 Jan 2005 : 19:04:54
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I believe it was during this time that Laeral also conceived her daughter, Maura. |
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Reefy
Senior Scribe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 15 Jan 2005 : 18:20:35
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quote: Originally posted by SiriusBlack
I believe it was during this time that Laeral also conceived her daughter, Maura.
You believe correctly, she was conceived while under the influence of the Crown.
Many thanks for all the info folks, much appreciated. |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6666 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jan 2005 : 00:05:55
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She also lost her book "Laeral's Libram" during this time.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6666 Posts |
Posted - 16 Jan 2005 : 11:29:42
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You might be confusing them with the Company of Eight, Sage ...
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 16 Jan 2005 : 14:40:24
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quote: Originally posted by George Krashos
You might be confusing them with the Company of Eight, Sage ...
-- George Krashos
Indeed, you are right my friend . It's obviously been far too long between my readings of Hall of Heroes.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 16 Jan 2005 : 16:18:39
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quote: Originally posted by George Krashos
You might be confusing them with the Company of Eight, Sage ...
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Hey, he was only off by one! |
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DDH_101
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 16 Jan 2005 : 18:17:27
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quote: Originally posted by SiriusBlack
I believe it was during this time that Laeral also conceived her daughter, Maura.
Hmm... was the identity of the father ever known? I remember that Evermeet did not say who the man was. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 16 Jan 2005 : 18:45:57
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quote: Originally posted by DDH_101
quote: Originally posted by SiriusBlack
I believe it was during this time that Laeral also conceived her daughter, Maura.
Hmm... was the identity of the father ever known? I remember that Evermeet did not say who the man was.
The novel Evermeet is, to the the best of my knowledge, the only place Maura is mentioned. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
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Posted - 16 Jan 2005 : 19:40:14
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quote: Originally posted by DDH_101 Hmm... was the identity of the father ever known? I remember that Evermeet did not say who the man was.
No, the subject matter was never addressed again in any product or novel. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 17 Jan 2005 : 04:22:59
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quote: Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
quote: Originally posted by George Krashos
You might be confusing them with the Company of Eight, Sage ...
-- George Krashos
Hey, he was only off by one!
And stranger still, is the fact that I've never even used the Company of Eight as NPCs, or anything else for that matter. I don't even know how I came to that reference... .
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
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Posted - 17 Jan 2005 : 06:07:10
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quote: Originally posted by Wooly Rupert Hey, he was only off by one!
Actually, he was off by two as there are only seven members of the Company of Eight.
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 17 Jan 2005 : 11:27:49
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quote: Originally posted by George Krashos
quote: Originally posted by Wooly Rupert Hey, he was only off by one!
Actually, he was off by two as there are only seven members of the Company of Eight.
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If you go by the names of the groups, he was only off by one. |
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The Sage
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Posted - 17 Jan 2005 : 13:35:36
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quote: Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
quote: Originally posted by George Krashos
quote: Originally posted by Wooly Rupert Hey, he was only off by one!
Actually, he was off by two as there are only seven members of the Company of Eight.
-- George Krashos
If you go by the names of the groups, he was only off by one.
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VEDSICA
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 17 Jan 2005 : 19:54:51
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HMMM wouldn't it be interesting if Myrkul was the father somehow? |
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Melfius
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Posted - 17 Jan 2005 : 20:10:24
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quote: Originally posted by VEDSICA
HMMM wouldn't it be interesting if Myrkul was the father somehow?
Aww, c'mon! We know it was Elminster! He's everyone's Dad! Heck, I wouldn't be surprised if he was his own father!
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Kentinal
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Posted - 17 Jan 2005 : 20:15:48
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Well doing some web exploring, I oft find Maura described as almost human, which can hint of sme kind of taint to her blood.
The Evermeet elves are willing to put up with Lamruil interet in her, because she will die soon (in Elven terms).
Of course almost human might be a reference to being a daughter of one of the Seven Sisters. |
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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 17 Jan 2005 : 22:02:01
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quote: Originally posted by Kentinal
Well doing some web exploring, I oft find Maura described as almost human, which can hint of sme kind of taint to her blood.
The Evermeet elves are willing to put up with Lamruil interet in her, because she will die soon (in Elven terms).
Of course almost human might be a reference to being a daughter of one of the Seven Sisters.
Exactly, what you described above is consistent with Laeral's description in Elaine Cunningham's novel. Plus, we have nothing official as to how the Evermeet elves will feel with her being by Lamruil's side. That information will come most hopefuly come in Elaine Cunningham's offering for the upcoming elf anthology. |
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Kentinal
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Posted - 17 Jan 2005 : 22:34:27
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quote: Originally posted by SiriusBlack
quote: Originally posted by Kentinal
Well doing some web exploring, I oft find Maura described as almost human, which can hint of sme kind of taint to her blood.
The Evermeet elves are willing to put up with Lamruil interet in her, because she will die soon (in Elven terms).
Of course almost human might be a reference to being a daughter of one of the Seven Sisters.
Exactly, what you described above is consistent with Laeral's description in Elaine Cunningham's novel. Plus, we have nothing official as to how the Evermeet elves will feel with her being by Lamruil's side. That information will come most hopefuly come in Elaine Cunningham's offering for the upcoming elf anthology.
I did say web exploring, which certainly can add opinions.
It however appears likely the most elves would not want an half elf as a heir. It is rare that they (espcially the gold) want humans near them,
Indeed the forth comong book should provide some more information, that most likely will be speculated about for the things not explained.
We wander a little from the Nine, however perhaps not that far. As Maura is a desendent of the Nine. ;-) |
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