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Drummer Boy
Senior Scribe
USA
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 Posted - 21 Oct 2002 : 04:01:51
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The Great Drizzt
Learned Scribe
USA
280 Posts |
Posted - 21 Oct 2002 : 06:47:24
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I really hope the new Dragonlance based movie is a whole lot better, then it will smash "Harry Potter"'s stupid movies into the ground!
The Great Drizzt |
"Don't poke Drizzt, 'tis highly unsociable!" Drizzt Do'Urden -BG1 |
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Drummer Boy
Senior Scribe
USA
395 Posts |
Posted - 22 Oct 2002 : 01:05:17
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Yeah, I used to like Harry Potter until I started reading the Forgotten Realms books,(not that long ago) but now when I look back on Harry Potter, it's all like MAGIC MAGIC MAGIC! FR has way more variation instead of focusing on just one thing.
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king-tiax
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
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Posted - 22 Oct 2002 : 20:53:53
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| I never relly got into the Harry Potter books, one of my room mates Said it was good, after we went to see it at the cinema I sure hop the books were bette than the Movie. |
My name is Tiax, I would ask yours but I don't care to become aquainted with the dead.
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Arion Elenim
Senior Scribe
933 Posts |
Posted - 23 Oct 2002 : 02:06:06
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My god.....someone actually referred to LOTR as "gay"!???!!!!
Wow...there is just no accounting for good taste......
Yeah, the D&D film wasn't what it could have been...but I don't think we can fault it for little things that apply only to the rules in the Monstrous Manual........DMs can alter things, folks...film makers can too.....
And ugh.......a Dragonlance film? Good! Walking around and killing things with nary a plot or characterization to offend the eye - now on film! Joy of joys! |
My latest Realms-based short story, about a bard, a paladin of Lathander and the letter of the law, Debts Repaid. It takes place before the "shattering" and gives the bard Arion a last gasp before he plunges into the present.http://candlekeep.com/campaign/logs/log-debts.htm |
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Drummer Boy
Senior Scribe
USA
395 Posts |
Posted - 23 Oct 2002 : 02:14:19
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What? Someone actually called the Lord of the Rings gay?!  That was a great movie! Yes, I agree, there is no accounting for good taste. (I'm not being sarcastic if you think so.) As for the upcoming Dragon Lance movie, I've never gotten into Dragon Lance so I don't really know anything about it. I'd still like to see it though. Any Dungeons and Dragons film is better than none, after all. |
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The Great Drizzt
Learned Scribe
USA
280 Posts |
Posted - 24 Oct 2002 : 06:38:29
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LOtR is ok, at best, first of all most people don't like Halflings(Hobbits) very much, I know I don't, but it is good to see some variety after all, so really I have very mixed feelings about LOtR, it was a really good book, and thee best fantasy movie i've ever seen, the one point keeps coming up though, why so many Halflings(Hobbits)?a few would have been nice, but the story basically revolved around them(and theres alot of them too!) Another thing I was kinda sketchy about Gandalf, he barley ever casts spells, whats the use of a mage that doesnt cast spells? REMEMBER this is IMHO!
The Great Drizzt |
"Don't poke Drizzt, 'tis highly unsociable!" Drizzt Do'Urden -BG1 |
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Darwin Tenderfoot
Seeker
USA
57 Posts |
Posted - 24 Oct 2002 : 12:20:13
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I agree with Drizzt on this one. Why would Gandalf not use magic if he is supposedly the second most powerful magic user? Also, They left out Tom Bombadil of all people!!! Oh, and about the D&D movie I didnt even bother seeing it. Such bad reviews.
Darwin 
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Mumadar Ibn Huzal
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 24 Oct 2002 : 13:04:31
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Which wizard would be more impressive and inspire more awe? The one who constantly has to hurl spells to prove himself, or the one who has a reputation, yet no one has seen him in real action yet...?
IMO Gandalf in that respect is very powerful. Just his name alone inspires awe.
Besides, in the film as well as in the book the little sidesteps Gandalf makes from the main story involve some powerful spellcasting. How else would he have survived the fight with the Balrog for instance... He also has been dueling with his fellow wizard from Ysengard... Looked like some Bigby's Hands at work there.
Also the perception of what makes a wizard is dependent on which setting/author one looks at. Ursula leGuin's novels have a different type of wizard then for instance Ed Greenwood's Elminster, or Weiss & Hickman's Raistlin... |
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Merrzeran
Acolyte
USA
22 Posts |
Posted - 24 Oct 2002 : 13:50:09
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| Well spoken Mumadar, well spoken indeed... |
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Darwin Tenderfoot
Seeker
USA
57 Posts |
Posted - 25 Oct 2002 : 03:54:17
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Mumadar you are wrong on one point, Gandalf did not use his own magic to save himself from the Balrog,he actually died. Then one of the higher powers reserected him(and also elevated his station)as Gandalf the White. but other than that I have to say I agree now that you mention those instances. You also Merrzeran the Wise. (not being sarcastic)
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Merrzeran
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 25 Oct 2002 : 05:19:07
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Why thank you lad... And it gives me pleasure to see one so young enjoy the works of Tolkien, and remember the details also. I think it is time I re-read them again myself. I had almost forgotten the true fate of the Balrog and Gandalf. But you must remember that if it were not for the true power of Gandalf, that Balrog would have crossed that bridge. And if memory serves, after falling into the abyss below Durins bridge they did fight until the balrog was vanquished. Er-something like that... Im off to my study...
BTW well met Darwin
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The Great Drizzt
Learned Scribe
USA
280 Posts |
Posted - 25 Oct 2002 : 06:27:37
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....Gandalfs a *****, there I said it!
and I don't remember him casting any "Powerfull" spells in the book either, he fights more with a sword(which mages arent supposed to do)
The Great Drizzt
Long live Elminster!!! and the REAL mages!!! |
"Don't poke Drizzt, 'tis highly unsociable!" Drizzt Do'Urden -BG1 |
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Mumadar Ibn Huzal
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 25 Oct 2002 : 07:48:57
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Originally posted by Merrzeran
<snip> I think it is time I re-read them again myself. <snip> Im off to my study...
Grrr... <wave of jealousy coming up> ... wish I could do that, however most of my books are on the other side of the Atlantic Ocean... I'll have to wait untill I get my stuff shipped over to Europe.
Recently saw the LotR movie again... that was enough to make me want to start reading the book again (One volume, hardcover copy)...<starts gnawing on laptop in frustration> |
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Merrzeran
Acolyte
USA
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Posted - 26 Oct 2002 : 02:53:08
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Hey sorry to hera bout that Mumadar, But I know what you mean. I recently purchased my 3 in 1 copy in hardback, very nice... "Seriously" im not rubbing it in.
And Drizzt, again not surprised at your response to Gandalf... |
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Darwin Tenderfoot
Seeker
USA
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Posted - 26 Oct 2002 : 03:27:06
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Well met Merrzeran the Wise, you are right about Gandalf vanquishing the Balrog. I wonder if Im the youngest person on this message board. Merrzeran do you play second edition? Hey, Mumadar is it weird living in Hungary?
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Merrzeran
Acolyte
USA
22 Posts |
Posted - 26 Oct 2002 : 04:34:50
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| Greetings Darwin, unfortunatley no I dont play 2nd ed., infact I havent played in over seven years and then it was just 1st ed. |
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Ditalidas
Learned Scribe
Netherlands
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Posted - 26 Oct 2002 : 11:58:52
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Originally posted by Mumadar Ibn Huzal
Grrr... <wave of jealousy coming up> ... wish I could do that, however most of my books are on the other side of the Atlantic Ocean... I'll have to wait untill I get my stuff shipped over to Europe.
Recently saw the LotR movie again... that was enough to make me want to start reading the book again (One volume, hardcover copy)...<starts gnawing on laptop in frustration>
I believe your copy of Lord of the Rings is at my bookshelf Mumadar. So if you are really desperate to read it again I could send it to you.... you just have to ask REALLY nice 
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Frey
Learned Scribe
130 Posts |
Posted - 26 Oct 2002 : 15:55:20
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Originally posted by Ditalidas
(...)So if you are really desperate to read it again I could send it to you.... you just have to ask REALLY nice
Of course you're welcome to borrow mine (4 paperbacks, 5 if you count the Silmarillion). I would gladly borrow them to you Mumabar *) .
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originally posted by The Great Dritzz
(...) "Powerfull" spells (...) which mages arent supposed to do
'supposed to'??? You seem to overlook FR is more like a copy of Middle Earth (certainly not the other way around). Tolkien more or less invented the genre so to speak.
Besides, IMHO a real great mace wouldn't cast that many spells alltogether. He should have a high wisdom-score, wouldn't he?
But who are we to judge what Tolkien should have written? I'm not half as good as he is.
But I do deeply agree on the wise words of Mumabar. And as for Halflings? Why not? They didn't exist before 'the Hobbit' was written and for the story's sake they serve some goal. The ones you'd least expect to do *anything* ending up to be this important... I think it's good as it is. Remember it isn't supposed to be a FR-book...
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Merrzeran
Acolyte
USA
22 Posts |
Posted - 26 Oct 2002 : 17:09:46
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Again wise words spoken in behalf of Tolkien, from one so young. "Bravo!" Indeed if it werent for Tolkien we wouldnt have these wonderful world to travel.
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Frey
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 26 Oct 2002 : 17:52:23
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Originally posted by Merrzeran ...from one so young. "Bravo!"
Thank you. (bowing elegantly)
Hehe, the character Frey might be young, but don't be fooled... the person behind Frey is not that young |
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Merrzeran
Acolyte
USA
22 Posts |
Posted - 26 Oct 2002 : 18:13:22
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| Ahh! preytell lassie... |
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eilinel
Learned Scribe
France
296 Posts |
Posted - 27 Oct 2002 : 04:50:59
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the DnD's movie is the worst i've ever seen, and Lord of the Rings the best.
I'm glad to see that there is some people like me who read hundreds times the book without being tired... |
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Frey
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 27 Oct 2002 : 19:52:56
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Originally posted by Merrzeran
Ahh! preytell lassie...
hmm, must be nice, funny or something. but my Inglish, ey? It took me some time (and some assistance) to work out the 'Lassie'-bit (not the dog, I gather?), the 'Ahh!' seems to be little of a problem, so ... whotz 'preytell'? something to do with prey? hûh?
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Originally posted by eilinel
(...)I'm glad to see that there is some people like me who read hundreds times the book without being tired...
Well, I don't think I'm up to a hundred yet, but never get bored. Hope to live up to a hundred. |
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KlarthAilerion
Acolyte
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Posted - 29 Oct 2002 : 06:02:58
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First off, the D&D movie... should have been darker and should have
followed more closely to general "accepted" standards in the D&D universe. Most of those standards have already been covered in this thread, so no real need to rehash them.
As for Gandalf not using magic so much, it's part of Tolkien's Middle Earth.. suffer reading through The Silmarillion and some of the other works on Middle Earth other than just the Lord of the Rings trilogy and The Hobbit and you'll come to see this... it's an entirely different "universe" than the Forgotten Realms, so different rules apply with magic and creatures and the way things work.
And, remember, it's fantasy that's created by different people... if you don't like the idea of wizards that don't cast spell after spell, or the idea of halflings in general, that's entirely up to you. Having read a lot of Forgotten Realms books as well as Tolkien fantasy, I think that if you can get past the differences between the fantasy universes then most of the stories are enjoyable to read (as long as they're well written).
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The Great Drizzt
Learned Scribe
USA
280 Posts |
Posted - 29 Oct 2002 : 06:56:54
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...Well I guess it's just me then, cause I base everything on AD&D.
The Great Drizzt |
"Don't poke Drizzt, 'tis highly unsociable!" Drizzt Do'Urden -BG1 |
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Darwin Tenderfoot
Seeker
USA
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Posted - 03 Nov 2002 : 21:14:59
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I do that a lot to Drizzt. But you just have to remember which came out first. Oh, sorry for not writing for so long. We moved.
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The Great Drizzt
Learned Scribe
USA
280 Posts |
Posted - 11 Nov 2002 : 08:54:14
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Well.....
I just bought the movie last night for $10.00, and watched it 2 time since, and If you watch really carefully, and pay real close attention, It's not really all that bad(yeah I know, now I'm a Hypocrite) but It's really funny too, and my standing on it now is, It's a good start untill the next one
So I guess I really don't hate it anymore....
The Great Drizzt |
"Don't poke Drizzt, 'tis highly unsociable!" Drizzt Do'Urden -BG1 |
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crazyknight75
Acolyte
Australia
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Posted - 12 Nov 2002 : 05:34:46
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i think those that made the film had never really played DND, i didnt like it at all....i was expecting more from the beholders since they are supposed to be terrifying and hideous....oh well i guess there will never be a sequel...if there is dont let me know ok.
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The Great Drizzt
Learned Scribe
USA
280 Posts |
Posted - 12 Nov 2002 : 05:45:18
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There is "Supposed" to be a new AD&D movie about Dragonlance(so I've heard, don't know for sure)
The first one wasnt based on Forgotten Realms just so you know, and the the people who made the movie did play AD&D, as a matter of fact the creater of AD&D had a very large role in the movie too, he was one of the mages on the council, saw that on the documentry that comes on the DVD.
The Great Drizzt |
"Don't poke Drizzt, 'tis highly unsociable!" Drizzt Do'Urden -BG1 |
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