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Lord Rad
Great Reader
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 Posted - 18 Aug 2004 : 19:13:25
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Is any information available on what ancient kingdoms are to be detailed within this sourcebook?
I hear some time back that (whilst still existing) Mulhorand and Unther will be covered.
With the recent releases of Lady of Poison and Forsaken House, Im hoping to see some of Narfell over in the east as the ruins there REALLY got me intrigued, as well as all that ancient elven realms of the North etc.
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"What? No, I wasn't reading your module. I was just looking at the pictures"
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 19 Aug 2004 : 07:42:47
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I'm still hoping that the ancient realms of the Imaskari are going to receive some treatment in this tome. That will likely be loosely combined with the material on Mulhorand.
I've been wishing for more material since the reworking of the Deep Imaskari in the Underdark tome.
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Hymn
Senior Scribe
Sweden
514 Posts |
Posted - 21 Aug 2004 : 23:18:01
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Originally posted by The Sage
I'm still hoping that the ancient realms of the Imaskari are going to receive some treatment in this tome. That will likely be loosely combined with the material on Mulhorand.
I've been wishing for more material since the reworking of the Deep Imaskari in the Underdark tome.
He, I guess you know my answer to that Sage  After one of my players, who are playing a Deep Imaskari requsted some info on them and their lost empire I set out on a hunt, wish there was more though to be found. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 22 Aug 2004 : 02:42:41
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Indeed I do.
The mystery behind the Imaskari has always been one of my favorite elements of the ancient Realms. They represent a society and culture that was not wholly lifted from ancient Earth, much like the Egyptian-styled Mulhorand.
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Steven Schend
Forgotten Realms Designer & Author
USA
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Posted - 22 Aug 2004 : 18:43:20
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Originally posted by The Sage
Indeed I do.
The mystery behind the Imaskari has always been one of my favorite elements of the ancient Realms. They represent a society and culture that was not wholly lifted from ancient Earth, much like the Egyptian-styled Mulhorand.
I had hoped that the Shoon would be original enough, but in retrospect, they do take on a lot of Roman influences (at least in terms of how they build their capitol city-state). Beyond the imperial structure et al, the Shoon have lots of details that have yet to come to light (nor can I find a whole notebook filled with scribbles from when I wrote LOI and EoSS and Wyrmskull Throne). Mayhaps one of these days I'll get around to writing up something on the Shoon and bouncing it this way or that....
As it is, I'll just wait patiently for Ancient Empires like the rest of us.
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Posted - 23 Aug 2004 : 08:56:08
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Mayhaps one of these days I'll get around to writing up something on the Shoon and bouncing it this way or that....
Now that, is definitely some information that I would like to read.
As it stands however, I once ran an April Fool's Day campaign which was based in the continental European period, just before the "dawn" of the dark ages. I'd completely removed all the "human" Roman imperial elements, and replaced it with the Shoon as they had been detailed up to that time.
I'll dig up my old notebooks and see if I can find some additional notes on this, to post here.
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Senbar Flay
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 08 Sep 2004 : 23:14:35
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I was wondering having read the posts it seems ancient empires sets alot on the eastern ones but does anyone know if will it detail any western empires they may not be as old but some could be interesting? |
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Sylvos
Acolyte
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Posted - 18 Sep 2004 : 08:34:53
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| I was actually hoping it will not only detail the previously mentioned empires - read netheril, imasker, pre-crown war elven states but perhaps even the empires of the Sarukh and maybe dragons/giants. A little background into the ancient ancient wars of the creator races I feel would be a nice touch for this sourcebook since it's always hinted at but never fully detailed out. |
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Senbar Flay
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 15 Oct 2004 : 14:26:28
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| I think it would be very interesting since the creator and giant races were before the rise of the current empires. since they have never really been detailed it would be a very interesting piece to read. I would be interested in the shapechangers. |
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Lord Rad
Great Reader
United Kingdom
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 15 Nov 2004 : 14:22:58
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Originally posted by Lord Rad
It appears as though the product has been renamed! Now entitled "Lost Empires of Faerun"
http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=products/fracc/177380000
From the makers of Independence Day, Drizzt and the Lost Empires of Faerun, A Steven Spielberg film.
At least that's what immediately came to mind when I read the title. Still, from what I've heard so far, they can call it whatever they wish. I still think it will be good. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Alaundo
Head Moderator
United Kingdom
5696 Posts |
Posted - 16 Nov 2004 : 14:59:07
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Well met
I am very much looking forward to this particular tome. Ruins are an area which has held my interest for many, many years. I wonder, Eric, could ye possibly inform us as to which ruins and empires in particular are covered. I believe Lord Rad has mentioned his interest in the ruins of Narfell, I must say that the area which I would like to read about also. That said, I don't believe there is an area of the Realms which doesn't intrigue me and interest me greatly  |
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hammer of Moradin
Senior Scribe
USA
758 Posts |
Posted - 16 Nov 2004 : 21:35:11
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| They could have named it A Spelunker's Guide to Faerunian Ruins and it would still be something I'm looking forward to. As long as it combines the old civilizations with the current ruins to tie it in with what is happening in the Realms now. |
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Ty
Learned Scribe
USA
168 Posts |
Posted - 30 Nov 2004 : 23:42:34
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I'm sincerely hoping that certain aspects of the various lost kingdoms of the Western Heartlands and the Sword Coast North are touched upon in this book. Over time, I know that my impression of the wilds of these areas has changed.
Initially, I viewed these areas as being ones lacking in a true history of nations per se but rather, minor city-states that rose and fell over time. Over the past seven or so years, I've had to revise that opinion to conclude that major kingdoms with armies of hundreds of thousands of men ruled the land. The breakup of these kingdoms left Daggerford, Secomber, and others as the remnants of those civilizations while many other cities, fortresses, and relics of these kingdoms lay waiting for rediscovery.
Literally, it reads like a tragedy to me, where good doesn't triumph and humans (and elves and dwarves) fail in their attempts to civilize the land around them.
Ah well, I'll sit back and hope.
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
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Posted - 01 Dec 2004 : 08:49:07
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Interesting musings, Ty. By realms of the Sword Coast/Heartlands, I imagine you mean the "big ones": the Fallen Kingdom and the Kingdom of Man. I'm sure they'll get mentioned ...
As for realms in the Heartlands, have you checked out "Serpent Kingdoms"? It deals with realms like Shavinar, Ebenfar (of Verraketh the Shadowking fame) and a few of the minor holdings that held sway for a few years.
My own thoughts on the Heartlands (Fields of the Dead area) is that no major realm/kingdom has ever controlled this area. Lots of minor, petty kingdoms and attempts to forge a lasting realm, but nothing to compare to the Shoon Empire, Cormyr, the Fallen Kingdom, et. al.
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Ty
Learned Scribe
USA
168 Posts |
Posted - 07 Dec 2004 : 01:47:09
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George Krashos,
For some odd reason I recall a webpage with a History of the North as compiled by yourself... Am I getting old and senile or is that in fact still to be found somewhere on the internet?
By the way, can I also call you Krash? |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6680 Posts |
Posted - 07 Dec 2004 : 03:32:26
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Guilty as charged. Eric Boyd has kindly hosted my revised North Timeline (soon to be revised again after Lost Empires and City of Splendors redux) on his website. Go here:
http://www.ericlboyd.com/dnd/history.html
And yes, call me "Krash" if you prefer - it was my usual moniker among friends as there were at least 3 and sometimes 5 Georges in the usual social circle!
-- George Krashos
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
4607 Posts |
Posted - 08 Dec 2004 : 07:58:34
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| Hmmm i wonder if we'll get our first look at Lost Empires of Faerun on sunday, Decembers "Whats coming up" article should come out this weekend.......... |
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Hymn
Senior Scribe
Sweden
514 Posts |
Posted - 08 Dec 2004 : 08:53:29
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Looks like it has a lot of crunch as well. Lost Empires of Faerűn contains five new in-depth prestige classes, 16 new feats, and 29 new monsters If I wanted that I could always go down to the local store and buy some serials.
All tough those 29 new monster do look interesting. I consider them as crunchy serials who have been in the bowl of Lost Empires of Faerun (also known as milk) to long and become fluffy and nice. |
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
4607 Posts |
Posted - 08 Dec 2004 : 22:58:39
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Originally posted by Hymn
Looks like it has a lot of crunch as well. Lost Empires of Faerűn contains five new in-depth prestige classes, 16 new feats, and 29 new monsters If I wanted that I could always go down to the local store and buy some serials.
All tough those 29 new monster do look interesting. I consider them as crunchy serials who have been in the bowl of Lost Empires of Faerun (also known as milk) to long and become fluffy and nice.
The monster section in LEOF is the monster section that got cut from PGTF ie LEOF monster section will be a 3.5 reprint of some of the Monsters from Monsters of Faerun. |
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Hymn
Senior Scribe
Sweden
514 Posts |
Posted - 09 Dec 2004 : 00:01:07
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Originally posted by Dargoth
The monster section in LEOF is the monster section that got cut from PGTF ie LEOF monster section will be a 3.5 reprint of some of the Monsters from Monsters of Faerun.
Bha I should have known it was to good to be true. |
Sauro moki kara ochiro - Even monkeys falls from trees.
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
4607 Posts |
Posted - 27 Dec 2004 : 06:43:04
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Hey Eric
Whats the story behind the Olin Gisir and Cultist of the
Shattered Peak PrCs in LEOF?
Tks in advance |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6680 Posts |
Posted - 27 Dec 2004 : 07:01:45
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As PRCs go, they are both interesting - even for a low-rules guy like me. Oh, and they both have something to do with lost empires.
-- George Krashos
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Dargoth
Great Reader
Australia
4607 Posts |
Posted - 27 Dec 2004 : 07:13:29
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Originally posted by George Krashos
As PRCs go, they are both interesting - even for a low-rules guy like me. Oh, and they both have something to do with lost empires.
-- George Krashos
Well we know that the Glorious Servitor is based on Mulhorond and we can safely bet that the Magelords PrC is tied to that kingdom where Elminster was born. I reckon the Sunmaster PrC is a PrC for Priest of the "Dead" god Amaunator
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36871 Posts |
Posted - 27 Dec 2004 : 11:15:55
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Originally posted by George Krashos
As PRCs go, they are both interesting - even for a low-rules guy like me. Oh, and they both have something to do with lost empires.
-- George Krashos
Such a helpful and informative response, Krash!  |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6680 Posts |
Posted - 27 Dec 2004 : 15:19:58
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Well, I could tell you, but then I'd get killed. We'll all have to wait and see the final product.
-- George Krashos
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36871 Posts |
Posted - 27 Dec 2004 : 22:50:50
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Originally posted by George Krashos
Well, I could tell you, but then I'd get killed. We'll all have to wait and see the final product.
-- George Krashos
But I thought Wizards fired all the thugs when they took over from TSR?... |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6680 Posts |
Posted - 28 Dec 2004 : 04:45:57
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 06 Jan 2005 : 06:56:18
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| We have our first few excerpts for this tome. |
Edited by - SiriusBlack on 06 Jan 2005 06:57:54 |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
6680 Posts |
Posted - 06 Jan 2005 : 11:31:08
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Now if those excerpts aren't making your mouth water, you can't be a true fan of the Realms. I've seen most of what's coming but I'm still as giddy as a schoolboy!
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