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Beowulf
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Posted - 09 Aug 2004 :  16:23:24  Show Profile  Visit Beowulf's Homepage Send Beowulf a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Well met!

Here is the sit. I have stats for 1st edition dragons. I have 2nd edition stats for oriental dragons, for "norse dragons" (huh?!?!?!), and I even have (some) stats for 3rd Ed. dragons for some reason, but none for 2nd Ed. dragons ... you know blue, black, green, copper, gold, etc.

So, is there a convenient place that I can get 2nd Ed. stats for the basic dragons that doesnt require me to spend 20+ dollars for a book full of monsters whose stats I already have in triplicate?

Ring-Giver of the Geats

"Ill tempered the wretch, who laughs at everyone. He cannot recognize, as he should, that he is not without faults." the High One, Poetic Edda

Edited by - Beowulf on 09 Aug 2004 16:41:21

Garen Thal
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Posted - 09 Aug 2004 :  17:38:58  Show Profile  Visit Garen Thal's Homepage Send Garen Thal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Ironically, there are none that are both legal and free. While 3rd Edition/3.5/d20 statistics for dragons are available free of charge thanks to the OGL, d20 STL, and SRD, 2nd Editionn stats of all kinds are still protected by copyright.

If you're willing to pay some money, but not a tremendous amount, the product to purchase would be the 2E Monstrous Manual, in PDF format, which can be found here. It contains all the stats you need, plus a whole lot more that you probably don't.
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Beowulf
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Posted - 09 Aug 2004 :  18:39:31  Show Profile  Visit Beowulf's Homepage Send Beowulf a Private Message  Reply with Quote

quote:
Originally posted by Garen Thal

Ironically, there are none that are both legal and free. While 3rd Edition/3.5/d20 statistics for dragons are available free of charge thanks to the OGL, d20 STL, and SRD, 2nd Editionn stats of all kinds are still protected by copyright.




I don't recongnize many of those abbreviations. Could you provide a link to the 3rd Ed. stats by chance?

"Ill tempered the wretch, who laughs at everyone. He cannot recognize, as he should, that he is not without faults." the High One, Poetic Edda
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Garen Thal
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Posted - 09 Aug 2004 :  19:17:07  Show Profile  Visit Garen Thal's Homepage Send Garen Thal a Private Message  Reply with Quote
OGL= Open Gaming License, the agreement that permits companies other than Wizards of the Coast to use material generated by other parties for the d20 system.

d20 STL= d20 System Trademark License, the agreement between WotC and other companies that permits them to use the d20 logo on products published under the OGL.

SRD= The System Reference Document, which is the gathering of all of WotC's own Open Game Content which has been published in other sources, and includes the rules from the 3rd Edition Player's Handbook, Dungeon Master Guide, and Monster Manual (and other books). Included among them are the statistics for the base dragons (chromatic and metallic), which are found on the SRD main page, or directly through the Monsters Dr-Dw file.

Edited by - Garen Thal on 09 Aug 2004 19:18:11
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