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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 27 Jul 2004 :  20:05:27  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by ElaineCunningham

For what it's worth, I've written two short stories (the same event told through very different perspectives) in which gnomes played an important part: "Speaking With the Dead" from the FR anthology Realms of Mystery, and "Stolen Dream," from DRAGON magazine #259. They ghomes depicted therein are most definitely not comic relief, nor do they create mechanical items, raise giant space hamsters, wear red hats, or hang out in front yards next to the pink flamingos.





And of course *I* think there should have been a Giant Space Hamster or two in those tales.

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Crust
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Posted - 27 Jul 2004 :  23:13:21  Show Profile  Visit Crust's Homepage Send Crust a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Crust

Of course, the 3E halfling tries to squash this stereotype.


I see it more as a stereotype transferal, moving halflings from Tolkien to Dragonlance. It's only a matter of time before someone gives one of these Kate Moss halflings a topknot and a cheerful, larcenous personality. I'm stockpiling canned goods against this day, as I consider it a harbinger of the Four Horses of the Apocolypse.





Now that is a theory I didn't explore.

And all this time I was trying to forget kender.

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Narnra glowered at her father. "Just how am I to learn how to think? By being taught by you?"

"Some folk in the Realms would give their lives for the chance to learn at my feet," Elminster said mildly. "Several already have."

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Lina
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Posted - 28 Jul 2004 :  11:03:26  Show Profile  Visit Lina's Homepage Send Lina a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

I think a book about gnomes and halflings would, by definition, be a short book.

*starts ducking the incoming projectiles*

Actually if someone were to write a story about gnomes it'd be about the size of encyclopeadia Brittanica vols 1-12. Two thirds of the text would be filled with gnomes introducing their names.

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Winterfox
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Posted - 29 Jul 2004 :  05:25:30  Show Profile  Visit Winterfox's Homepage Send Winterfox a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I don't believe FR gnomes have crazily elongated names the way DL gnomes do.
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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 29 Jul 2004 :  08:02:54  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Originally posted by Winterfox

I don't believe FR gnomes have crazily elongated names the way DL gnomes do.



Yeah, that concept was limited to the tinker gnomes of Krynn. Thankfully, that bunch remains either stuck on Krynn or happily wandering around in space. While it is possible for a tinker gnome to wind up in the Realms (after all, a kender did), that's not something most of us want to see.

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quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

quote:
Originally posted by Winterfox

I don't believe FR gnomes have crazily elongated names the way DL gnomes do.



Yeah, that concept was limited to the tinker gnomes of Krynn. Thankfully, that bunch remains either stuck on Krynn or happily wandering around in space. While it is possible for a tinker gnome to wind up in the Realms (after all, a kender did), that's not something most of us want to see.



No, and I'd be very surprised if many people wanted to see halflings head more in the direction of kender as EC mentioned. I also had not thought of this, but I don't like it. Kender and tinker gnomes are fine - in Dragonlance. They help define it and make it different but I don't want to see them in the Realms.

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