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Sourcemaster2
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 Posted - 15 Jul 2004 : 20:32:41
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I'm looking for creatures with natural arcane spellcasting ability. I'm already aware of dragons, araneas, couatls, nagas, rakshasas, and lillends, but does anyone know of any others? Both sorcerous and bardic are fine, but not spell-like abilities (it doesn't matter if it has them also, but not spell-like abilities alone) I know it's an odd request, but look at the source (master, that is)
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Karesch
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Posted - 15 Jul 2004 : 23:11:16
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Well, I took a peruse through the MM1 and this is what I came up with
less the ones you already listed
1) Drider - P78
2) Formian Queen - p 90-92
3) Hag's - p 115
4) Kolbold's occassionally (favored class sorcerer) P 123/124
5) Merfolk (favored class Bard) P 134
6) Mindflayers - P136 (this one it doesn't really mention them as being spellcasters in the MM1, but I was sure they were sorcerous, I could be wrong however)
7) Ogre Mage - P 144
8) Astrosphinx (clerical) P 170
9) Titan - P 176
as I said, these are all from Monster Manual I and I gave the page # references, hope this helps some.
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brjr2001
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Posted - 15 Jul 2004 : 23:36:16
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Lina
Senior Scribe
Australia
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Posted - 16 Jul 2004 : 11:37:03
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Just a question I'd like to ask...
Why is the casting ability of a sorcerer related to his/her charisma when they are already born with that ability? |
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Icewolf
Learned Scribe
USA
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Posted - 16 Jul 2004 : 19:16:17
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Originally posted by Lina
Just a question I'd like to ask...
Why is the casting ability of a sorcerer related to his/her charisma when they are already born with that ability?
Charisma is supposed to represent the strength of a character's personality. Bringing about sorcerer spells is just a matter of forcing the effect through sheer will. Whereas a Wizard's spells are brought about by knowledge of the Art. |
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Lina
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Posted - 22 Jul 2004 : 12:22:04
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| Thanx for clearing that up Icewolf. |
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Beowulf
Learned Scribe
Canada
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Posted - 22 Jul 2004 : 16:08:36
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Originally posted by Icewolf
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Originally posted by Lina
Just a question I'd like to ask...
Why is the casting ability of a sorcerer related to his/her charisma when they are already born with that ability?
Charisma is supposed to represent the strength of a character's personality. Bringing about sorcerer spells is just a matter of forcing the effect through sheer will. Whereas a Wizard's spells are brought about by knowledge of the Art.
I'm not entirely familiar with 3rd or highre edition, but isn't wisdom supposed to represent the strength of a persons personality, and charisma the personability of a person personality? |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 22 Jul 2004 : 16:36:55
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Originally posted by Beowulf
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Originally posted by Icewolf
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Originally posted by Lina
Just a question I'd like to ask...
Why is the casting ability of a sorcerer related to his/her charisma when they are already born with that ability?
Charisma is supposed to represent the strength of a character's personality. Bringing about sorcerer spells is just a matter of forcing the effect through sheer will. Whereas a Wizard's spells are brought about by knowledge of the Art.
I'm not entirely familiar with 3rd or highre edition, but isn't wisdom supposed to represent the strength of a persons personality, and charisma the personability of a person personality?
I've always considered Wisdom to be more an equivalent of common sense, and the ability to learn from one's actions. |
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