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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 25 Jun 2004 :  18:39:11  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kuje31
Correct.



Gracias. I think one of his novels is within one of the bookshelves here, but no idea if it was that one.
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OrnluTheWolf
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Posted - 26 Jun 2004 :  03:56:05  Show Profile  Visit OrnluTheWolf's Homepage Send OrnluTheWolf a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Actually, Cyric is already a God when Prince of Lies begins. He must become a diety in the last book of the avatar trilogy, Waterdeep. Prince of Lies actually details a conflict between Mystra/Midnight and Cyric as Cyric rearanges/enlarges/shrinks his portfolio.

I don't know if anyone knows this, but Richard Awlinson (author of the Avatar trilogy) is actually a psydo-name (sp?). Why didn't he use his real name?
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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 26 Jun 2004 :  04:20:13  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by OrnluTheWolf

Actually, Cyric is already a God when Prince of Lies begins. He must become a diety in the last book of the avatar trilogy, Waterdeep. Prince of Lies actually details a conflict between Mystra/Midnight and Cyric as Cyric rearanges/enlarges/shrinks his portfolio.



Okay, sorry, but you lost me. When did we mention Cyric? I thought we were discussing Kel.
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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 26 Jun 2004 :  04:21:27  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by OrnluTheWolf
I don't know if anyone knows this, but Richard Awlinson (author of the Avatar trilogy) is actually a psydo-name (sp?). Why didn't he use his real name?



Yes, if I recall it was used to represent more than one author.
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Sarta
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Posted - 26 Jun 2004 :  06:50:48  Show Profile Send Sarta a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Scott Ciencin and Troy Denning both used this pseudonym. Scott wrote the first two books of the Avatar series under it and Troy wrote the third using it.

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OrnluTheWolf
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Posted - 26 Jun 2004 :  14:11:53  Show Profile  Visit OrnluTheWolf's Homepage Send OrnluTheWolf a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Okay, sorry, but you lost me. When did we mention Cyric? I thought we were discussing Kel.


Um.. Erm..... Ahem.....
Please disregard my earlier post, apparently I was under the effects of a feeblemind spell at the time (Damn you Elminster!)

quote:
Scott Ciencin and Troy Denning both used this pseudonym. Scott wrote the first two books of the Avatar series under it and Troy wrote the third using it.


Thanks. I'll look for the differences then as I read the 2nd and 3rd books. Also, thanks for the spelling of pseudonym (I was totally clueless).
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Sarelle
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Posted - 26 Jun 2004 :  19:28:47  Show Profile Send Sarelle a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yes, and in the new versions of the books, the authors are properly credited.

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Thelonius
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Posted - 28 Jun 2004 :  08:17:21  Show Profile Send Thelonius a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Okay, I've been searching for the Prince of Lies novel here but i can't find it, Spain is different!!!! (never mind i've got a Cormyr first volume tome). I think it hasn't been published here

Sirius, this is the second time i read you using "Gracias", is curious.

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Edited by - Thelonius on 28 Jun 2004 08:18:13
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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Posted - 28 Jun 2004 :  09:44:14  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gion

Okay, I've been searching for the Prince of Lies novel here but i can't find it, Spain is different!!!! (never mind i've got a Cormyr first volume tome). I think it hasn't been published here

Sirius, this is the second time i read you using "Gracias", is curious.



Well, speaking for myself, I will say that some of us Americans have a tendency to lift particular words from other languages. It's not at all uncommon for someone to use another language to say "thank you."

I myself used to say "gracias" but then started saying "danke." A few years ago, I moved over to saying "domo" instead...

And if I know someone's nationality, and I know any words from their language, if the opportunity is right, I will use their native tongue when speaking to them. Usually I don't get to do more than say their version of "thank you," but it seems courteous to me to at least do that much.

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Sarta
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Posted - 28 Jun 2004 :  12:32:36  Show Profile Send Sarta a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yeah, its not at all uncommon to hear a bit of Spanish thrown into American vocabularies. We do after all have the 5th largest Spanish-speaking population in the world, with 27.8 million Americans speaking Spanish. It is estimated that 28.6 percent of the population of my city, Fresno, speak Spanish.

One can't help but "lift" vocabulary when one hears it so often.

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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 28 Jun 2004 :  15:53:46  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gion
Sirius, this is the second time i read you using "Gracias", is curious.



It came in handy with my past job.
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Darth KTrava
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Posted - 28 Jun 2004 :  17:54:08  Show Profile  Visit Darth KTrava's Homepage Send Darth KTrava a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kuje31

Sirius beat me to it. :) Ignore me.



And why would we do that? Just 'cause you partied late and slept in.....


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Darth KTrava
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Posted - 28 Jun 2004 :  18:00:37  Show Profile  Visit Darth KTrava's Homepage Send Darth KTrava a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Sarelle

Yes, and in the new versions of the books, the authors are properly credited.



I think I heard that they put the authors under the pseudonym to put the books together since bookstores put novels alphabetically by author's last name. Same thing was done with the D&D iconic novels. But now those same bookstores are more likely to arrange them by series and one then puts them alphabetically by BOOK TITLE than AUTHOR NAME. Weird.


Evil will be dealt with swiftly as it is my duty to remove such evil from my presence.
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Darth KTrava
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Posted - 28 Jun 2004 :  18:02:00  Show Profile  Visit Darth KTrava's Homepage Send Darth KTrava a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Gion

Okay, I've been searching for the Prince of Lies novel here but i can't find it, Spain is different!!!! (never mind i've got a Cormyr first volume tome). I think it hasn't been published here

Sirius, this is the second time i read you using "Gracias", is curious.



If all else fails, you could try Ebay. Granted they're in English, not Spanish. But there's quite a few people selling them on that site.

Evil will be dealt with swiftly as it is my duty to remove such evil from my presence.
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Thelonius
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Spain
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Posted - 30 Jun 2004 :  13:58:21  Show Profile Send Thelonius a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Darth KTrava

quote:
Originally posted by Gion

Okay, I've been searching for the Prince of Lies novel here but i can't find it, Spain is different!!!! (never mind i've got a Cormyr first volume tome). I think it hasn't been published here

Sirius, this is the second time i read you using "Gracias", is curious.



If all else fails, you could try Ebay. Granted they're in English, not Spanish. But there's quite a few people selling them on that site.



Okay i'll try, in this matters spain is really third-world like.

"If you are to truly understand, then you will need the contrast, not adherence to a single ideal." - Kreia
"I THINK I JUST HAD ANOTHER NEAR-RINCEWIND EXPERIENCE"- Discworld's Death frustrated after Rincewind scapes his grasp... again.
"I am death, come for thee" - Nimbul, from Baldur's Gate I just before being badly spanked
Sapientia sola libertas est
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