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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 25 May 2004 :  13:05:26  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
In the back of Paul Kemp's new novel, Dawn of Night there is a full listing now for the Priests series set to start this year.

We already know about

Lady of Poison July 2004 by Bruce R. Cordell
Mistress of the Night September 2004 by Dave Gross

But, to my knowledge, I have not heard up until now about this one

Queen of the Depths May 2005 by Voronica Whitney-Robinson

and finally

Maiden of Pain July 2005 by Kameron M. Franklin

Anyone heard of this guy????

A diverse range of beliefs appear to be explored in the above books.

Dargoth
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Posted - 25 May 2004 :  13:37:43  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack


Maiden of Pain July 2005 by Kameron M. Franklin

Anyone heard of this guy????

A diverse range of beliefs appear to be explored in the above books.




*chuckle*

Are you joking?

In the event your not joking, Kameron is the Winner of the Maiden of Pain writers comp




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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 25 May 2004 :  13:48:33  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dargoth
*chuckle*

Are you joking?

In the event your not joking, Kameron is the Winner of the Maiden of Pain writers comp



I am. I should have really had fun and put, "Is he one of them Eberron writers?"
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Arivia
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Posted - 25 May 2004 :  13:57:58  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
The same listing appeared in the back of Venom's Taste. There was another, confusing list for the Hunter's Blades trilogy, which suggested that the Two Swords would have been out this past April.
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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 25 May 2004 :  14:08:51  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Arivia

The same listing appeared in the back of Venom's Taste.



That shows how strong my awareness is as I read that novel and don't recall at all seeing it.

quote:

There was another, confusing list for the Hunter's Blades trilogy, which suggested that the Two Swords would have been out this past April.



Wasn't that novel originally set to come out at that time? Or was it always set to come out in November?
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Darth KTrava
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Posted - 26 May 2004 :  04:27:19  Show Profile  Visit Darth KTrava's Homepage Send Darth KTrava a Private Message  Reply with Quote
October, I believe.

Which deity is "Queen of the Depths" supposed to be about? Is it Umberlee?

How about "Mistress of the Night"?

Wonder who else is gonna be 'on the list'....


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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 26 May 2004 :  04:34:40  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Darth KTrava
Which deity is "Queen of the Depths" supposed to be about? Is it Umberlee?



From the brief blurb for the book, I would say yes, it is her.

quote:

How about "Mistress of the Night"?



The blurb mentions fighing a goddess of secrets. Thus, I believe it will show a Selune priestess. I believe Dave Gross' Sembia novel included a priestess of this deity. Thus, perhaps she's the character mentioned that will take the fight to Shar followers.

quote:

Wonder who else is gonna be 'on the list'....



I got the impression that like The Rogue series, this four would be it and then the focus would shift to The Fighter series.
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George Krashos
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Posted - 26 May 2004 :  05:34:58  Show Profile Send George Krashos a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by SiriusBlack


The blurb mentions fighing a goddess of secrets. Thus, I believe it will show a Selune priestess. I believe Dave Gross' Sembia novel included a priestess of this deity. Thus, perhaps she's the character mentioned that will take the fight to Shar followers.





If it mentions secrets, then it is likely Shar, not Selune. Could we be seeing an explanation of the shadow weave?

-- George Krashos

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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 26 May 2004 :  06:13:20  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos
If it mentions secrets, then it is likely Shar, not Selune. Could we be seeing an explanation of the shadow weave?

-- George Krashos




But, why would a priestess of Shar be "fighting a goddess of secrets" and doing "everything to stop them?" Wouldn't that be a Selune priest fighting Shar's followers?
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Dargoth
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Posted - 26 May 2004 :  07:02:28  Show Profile  Visit Dargoth's Homepage Send Dargoth a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Assuming they gave the same rules to the other authors as they did for Maiden of Pain, the novel had to depict a cleric of the deity but it could be the protagonist or the bad guy

The goddess the 4 books are based on are

Shar
Talona
Umberlee
Loviator

I guess the book department must have a thing for evil women

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Lord Rad
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Posted - 26 May 2004 :  09:18:57  Show Profile  Visit Lord Rad's Homepage Send Lord Rad a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Dave Gross' book in this series features Radu Malveen (from Black Wolf fame), im particulary looking forward to reading about him again

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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 26 May 2004 :  12:45:54  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lord Rad

Dave Gross' book in this series features Radu Malveen (from Black Wolf fame), im particulary looking forward to reading about him again



And for those wishing the link to this information, try here where Dave Gross mentions the following:

quote:

In brief, Mistress of the Night is about what happens when an excessively violent priestess of Selune, Feena, and an excessively violent swordsman, Radu Malveen, come in on opposite sides of a conflict involving the cult of Shar. It's set in Yhaunn, Sembia.



Feena is as I suspected above, the Selune Priestess from Black Wolf.
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VEDSICA
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Posted - 26 May 2004 :  15:33:55  Show Profile  Visit VEDSICA's Homepage Send VEDSICA a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I can't wait to read about Radu Malveen as well.

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OrnluTheWolf
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Posted - 26 May 2004 :  16:35:18  Show Profile  Visit OrnluTheWolf's Homepage Send OrnluTheWolf a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Will all of these be set in current time?
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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 26 May 2004 :  16:39:46  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by OrnluTheWolf

Will all of these be set in current time?



I don't think any mention has been made of the time frame for the novels. However, since, to my knowledge, the rogue series was set within current time, I'd go with that belief here as well.
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Kameron M. Franklin
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Posted - 26 May 2004 :  16:40:16  Show Profile  Visit Kameron M. Franklin's Homepage  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dargoth

Assuming they gave the same rules to the other authors as they did for Maiden of Pain, the novel had to depict a cleric of the deity but it could be the protagonist or the bad guy

The goddess the 4 books are based on are

Shar
Talona
Umberlee
Loviator

I guess the book department must have a thing for evil women



You're correct on the goddesses. If you check your Faiths & Pantheons, the book titles are all taken from secondary names for the deities. And, yes, if the guidelines for the other books were similar to the open call, then the priest of the focal deity can either be the protagonist or antagonist.

"You keep saying that word. I do not think it means what you think it means." --Inigo Montoya, The Princess Bride
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mother1219
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Posted - 26 May 2004 :  17:26:08  Show Profile  Visit mother1219's Homepage Send mother1219 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Sirius,

Give me your copy of Dawn of Night

I cannot wait to read that book! AND you say it has a sample of Annihilation! ARGH! Gimme!

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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 27 May 2004 :  00:16:29  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by mother1219
I cannot wait to read that book! AND you say it has a sample of Annihilation!



The sample chapter was a lovely bonus especially since Elminster's Daughter didn't have a preview for any upcoming novel.

I really want to see a sample chapter for Lady of Poison so I can possibly determine whether or not I will be buying the novel.
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Valondil the Ranger
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Posted - 31 May 2004 :  03:39:12  Show Profile  Visit Valondil the Ranger's Homepage Send Valondil the Ranger a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I don't see why they would choose three major deities such as Selune, Umberlee, and Loviatar and then stick in a minor one such as Talona. Talona never really got mentioned until Venom's Taste (which I loved).

Also, Bruce R. Cordell always wrote stuff for D&D and stuff, why now is he making an appearance by writing an FR novel?

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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 31 May 2004 :  04:14:38  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Valondil the Ranger

I don't see why they would choose three major deities such as Selune, Umberlee, and Loviatar and then stick in a minor one such as Talona. Talona never really got mentioned until Venom's Taste (which I loved).



The impression I got, and this is just a personal one, was these books were to spotlight deities not previously focused on within novels. Alas, like the Rogues series, I think these novels will be either hit or miss for me.

quote:

Also, Bruce R. Cordell always wrote stuff for D&D and stuff, why now is he making an appearance by writing an FR novel?



Has he written any other stuff say for a D20 company? I know he wrote D&D stuff, but I could swear I've seen the name elsewhere too.
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Valondil the Ranger
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Posted - 31 May 2004 :  05:20:45  Show Profile  Visit Valondil the Ranger's Homepage Send Valondil the Ranger a Private Message  Reply with Quote
He wrote one of the D&D novellas under the pseudonym T.H. Lain.

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Sarta
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Posted - 31 May 2004 :  09:25:30  Show Profile Send Sarta a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Valondil the Ranger

I don't see why they would choose three major deities such as Selune, Umberlee, and Loviatar and then stick in a minor one such as Talona. Talona never really got mentioned until Venom's Taste (which I loved).


... and of course in the Cleric Quintet.

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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 31 May 2004 :  15:23:25  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Valondil the Ranger

He wrote one of the D&D novellas under the pseudonym T.H. Lain.



Ah, thank you for that information Valondil.
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Valondil the Ranger
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Posted - 31 May 2004 :  16:04:45  Show Profile  Visit Valondil the Ranger's Homepage Send Valondil the Ranger a Private Message  Reply with Quote
No prob. You know what D&D novellas I'm talking about, don't you, Sirius?

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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 31 May 2004 :  16:23:50  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Valondil the Ranger

No prob. You know what D&D novellas I'm talking about, don't you, Sirius?



The ones featuring the iconic characters. Correct?

Additionally, after doing some research, I see Mr. Cordrell has done work for Malhavoc Press in writing the award winning module, If Thoughts Could Kill.
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Valondil the Ranger
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Posted - 31 May 2004 :  18:55:50  Show Profile  Visit Valondil the Ranger's Homepage Send Valondil the Ranger a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Yup. You got it. So, yeah, I guess this is his first NOVEL novel, per say.

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Steven Schend
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Posted - 31 May 2004 :  20:04:25  Show Profile  Visit Steven Schend's Homepage Send Steven Schend a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Valondil the Ranger

Yup. You got it. So, yeah, I guess this is his first NOVEL novel, per say.



I think you're right on that. I'm looking forward to reading it, as Bruce Cordell is one of the best writers I know who's still a WotC full-timer, and he's a heckuva nice guy to boot. This novel should be good.

Steven Schend
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Valondil the Ranger
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Posted - 31 May 2004 :  23:55:13  Show Profile  Visit Valondil the Ranger's Homepage Send Valondil the Ranger a Private Message  Reply with Quote
If you like psionics, read Venom's Taste about the yuan-ti (one of my fav races. Faced them on one of my first DnD quests) by Lisa Smedman. It was very good.

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SiriusBlack
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Posted - 01 Jun 2004 :  00:16:50  Show Profile  Visit SiriusBlack's Homepage Send SiriusBlack a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Steven Schend
Bruce Cordell is one of the best writers I know who's still a WotC full-timer, and he's a heckuva nice guy to boot. This novel should be good.



If I recall, and I may be mistaken, he posts on the ENWorld message board. If memory serves, he was very polite and nice when dealing with others on there.

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wwwwwww
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Posted - 15 Jul 2005 :  21:08:11  Show Profile  Visit wwwwwww's Homepage Send wwwwwww a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Is anyone else slightly disappointed in how this series has turned out? It had so much potential, but I feel very deflated after reading them. This is nothing against the authors, who are great people. They're just . . . I don't know . . . not the quality I was expecting. Especially two of them, which I felt were two the of the worst fantasy novels I've ever read (I won't name them). Who knows, perhaps Queen of the Depths will be the redeemer of this set.

Like I said, it's nothing against the authors, I just am very let down (I was SO excited to read them). Is anyone else feeling this way?

Edited by - wwwwwww on 15 Jul 2005 21:10:35
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Lord Rad
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Posted - 15 Jul 2005 :  23:46:39  Show Profile  Visit Lord Rad's Homepage Send Lord Rad a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by wwwwwww

Is anyone else slightly disappointed in how this series has turned out? It had so much potential, but I feel very deflated after reading them. This is nothing against the authors, who are great people. They're just . . . I don't know . . . not the quality I was expecting. Especially two of them, which I felt were two the of the worst fantasy novels I've ever read (I won't name them). Who knows, perhaps Queen of the Depths will be the redeemer of this set.

Like I said, it's nothing against the authors, I just am very let down (I was SO excited to read them). Is anyone else feeling this way?



To be honest, I agree. I don't think any of the novels in the series have been anything to write home about. Again, I think the authors are great and have done some excellent work prior, but I feel that this series AND the Rogues series are a little mundane and not really doing the Realms any justice. I feel that the authors are being surpressed and the stories a little forced. For example, the Rogues series felt like all authors were told "ok, write a story where the protagonist is a rogue and that there is an item which is key to the story (Crimson Gold, Alabaster Staff etc.)". However, one book which did stand out in this series, by far, was The Yellow Silk by Don Bassingthwaite. Highly recommended.

Back the The Priests, in particular, I felt that Maiden of Pain was a little misplaced. The feeling of the character just didn't seem right for Loviatar.


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