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BobROE
Learned Scribe
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 Posted - 23 May 2004 : 20:39:05
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Can anyone tell me what years the following names are associated with?
Dark Frost
Rising Mist
Sunset Smoke
Thanks
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 23 May 2004 : 20:59:26
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Originally posted by BobROE
Can anyone tell me what years the following names are associated with?
Dark Frost
Rising Mist
Sunset Smoke
Thanks
Well, I just did a look through the Roll of Years that I have on file and didn't see these listed. Thus, I'm very curious know to find out what year they are associated with and the reference where you found the names. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 23 May 2004 : 21:04:49
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I just checked the Roll of Years, and I found none of the names you mentioned. Where did you find them?
Edit: And it appears that SiriusBlack answered while I was still looking for a d/l of the list to share.
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
5517 Posts |
Posted - 23 May 2004 : 21:06:38
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
I just checked the Roll of Years, and I found none of the names you mentioned. Where did you find them?
Okay, nice to know my ROY isn't missing something. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36905 Posts |
Posted - 23 May 2004 : 21:16:47
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I just spent some time looking around, and I can't seem to find the original place where I first found the list... If someone knows where the list can be found, sharing the link would be a good thing -- there's been more than one question about the Roll of Years, and a link to a downloadable list like the one that was originally on the Wizards page would be good.
(Actually, that list may still be on the Wizards page, but it's easier to make it up yourself than it is to find something with their search engine.) |
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Faraer
Great Reader
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Posted - 23 May 2004 : 21:40:29
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BobROE
Learned Scribe
Canada
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Posted - 23 May 2004 : 22:17:14
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As to where I found them:
In Ed Greenwood books there are those little quotes at the begining on every chapter. Well I just catalogued all of them, and those three dates are for quotes in Crown of Fire (I couldn't tell you what chapter). |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 23 May 2004 : 22:30:36
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Originally posted by BobROE
As to where I found them:
In Ed Greenwood books there are those little quotes at the begining on every chapter. Well I just catalogued all of them, and those three dates are for quotes in Crown of Fire (I couldn't tell you what chapter).
Sounds like a question for his thread unless someone else can come up with something. |
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Faraer
Great Reader
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Posted - 23 May 2004 : 22:38:47
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| Looks like someone asked the same question on REALMS-L in 2002. Most likely the Scribes of Candlekeep (the real ones, to be needlessly provocative) found duplicate year-names when compiling the Roll, and relegated those three to regional/scholarly variants. Steven? |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 24 May 2004 : 00:44:17
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Originally posted by BobROE
As to where I found them:
In Ed Greenwood books there are those little quotes at the begining on every chapter. Well I just catalogued all of them, and those three dates are for quotes in Crown of Fire (I couldn't tell you what chapter).
You know, I had considered doing a project like that. I even got started on it, notating the names of years as I read thru various supplements. And then I found the table on the Wizards homepage. |
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SiriusBlack
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 24 May 2004 : 02:10:10
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
You know, I had considered doing a project like that. I even got started on it, notating the names of years as I read thru various supplements. And then I found the table on the Wizards homepage.
There's another version online that has the years listed both chronologically and alphabetically within the same file. Smaller file size if I recall correctly than the WOTC version. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 24 May 2004 : 03:04:21
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Originally posted by SiriusBlack
There's another version online that has the years listed both chronologically and alphabetically within the same file. Smaller file size if I recall correctly than the WOTC version.
Yeah, I've got that one, too. I have the list printed out both ways, which makes it easier to look up a year or name. |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
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Posted - 24 May 2004 : 04:48:36
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As well as the ones mentioned before, here are some more apocryphal year names:
Year of Swordforging – Polyhedron #67, p.22
Year of the Black Shield – Polyhedron #79, p.7
Year of the Snarling Snowleopard – Polyhedron #80, p.6
Year of the Black Axe – Polyhedron #81, p.8
Year of the Black Banner – Polyhedron #82, p.22
Year of Rising Winds – Polyhedron #83, p.29
Year of Falling Stones – Polyhedron #84, p.19
Year of the Torch – Polyhedron #87, p.8
Year of the Unicorn – Polyhedron #86, p.17
Year of Many Hawks – Polyhedron #85, p.6
Year of the Hunting Hawk – Halls of the High King, p.2
I believe that we used Year of Swordforging for 977DR after we found a glitch in the original Roll of Years - which were always hilarious to find as Steven would go nuts everytime we found another "error" on his 'completed' list.
The above show that there are regional variants to the established Roll of Years. Also I recall many moons ago discussing with Ed how Auguthra could have named years retro-actively (in other words, before she was born). He noted that she wasn't responsible for the entire Roll (although humans and monks of Candlekeep especially would like you to think so ...), and had based her work on other sources, notably some elven seers of repute. You might want to ping him on the Novels section about this.
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Steven Schend
Forgotten Realms Designer & Author
USA
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Posted - 24 May 2004 : 17:13:55
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Originally posted by George Krashos
As well as the ones mentioned before, here are some more apocryphal year names:
Year of Swordforging – Polyhedron #67, p.22
Year of the Black Shield – Polyhedron #79, p.7
Year of the Snarling Snowleopard – Polyhedron #80, p.6
Year of the Black Axe – Polyhedron #81, p.8
Year of the Black Banner – Polyhedron #82, p.22
Year of Rising Winds – Polyhedron #83, p.29
Year of Falling Stones – Polyhedron #84, p.19
Year of the Torch – Polyhedron #87, p.8
Year of the Unicorn – Polyhedron #86, p.17
Year of Many Hawks – Polyhedron #85, p.6
Year of the Hunting Hawk – Halls of the High King, p.2
I believe that we used Year of Swordforging for 977DR after we found a glitch in the original Roll of Years - which were always hilarious to find as Steven would go nuts everytime we found another "error" on his 'completed' list.
I wouldn't GO nuts; I was nuts at the time. Finding those snags in the works just made me tap my "inner Auguthra, that's all. 
Thank the gods I'm no longer as highly strung and stress-addicted as I was 6 years ago when we were wrestling the Roll of Years into submission.....
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The above show that there are regional variants to the established Roll of Years. Also I recall many moons ago discussing with Ed how Auguthra could have named years retro-actively (in other words, before she was born). He noted that she wasn't responsible for the entire Roll (although humans and monks of Candlekeep especially would like you to think so ...), and had based her work on other sources, notably some elven seers of repute. You might want to ping him on the Novels section about this.
-- George Krashos
I can't recall what happened to an old file of mine, but I'd worked out a few names of seers and sages who'd contributed to the Roll of Years and the prophecies that the Sages of Candlekeep rightfully keep under wraps. Auguthra and Alaundo are the high and more prolific names on the list, but there were a few others. It's simply PR and to keep from having to explain more than the monks push only those two names upon querents. If I ever track those notes down, I'll promise them for Candlekeep.
As for the regional variants, I'd say it'd take a strong and stable government (or an overly mouthy/prolific sage) to proclaim year names that more than a few score people would recognize. For example, if Elminster were to refer to 1372 as the Year of the Hobbled Hodak while in his cups at the local tavern, you can bet (just on his reputation) that a few hundred people would be writing it down for prosperity later. In fact, I'd venture to guess that a number of "false" year names could simply be part and parcel of Chosen disinformation and confusion campaigns. Or it could just be the Last Aumar simply yanking people's chains because he likes to mess with people's heads.
Steven
Who used to have story ideas for so many of the weirder year names but he's forgotten or lost most of them....
PS: Has anyone ever collated exactly what events we know historically link to the year names? That'd be curious if regional variants exist because the telling prophecy/event had no bearing on the local region and thus the Year of the Scarlet Phoenix means nothing to Thay since the illusory bird only illuminated the sunsets over the Sea of Swords for four tendays.....you get the idea.....
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Nephilim
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cpthero2
Great Reader
USA
2286 Posts |
Posted - 01 Oct 2018 : 17:09:49
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Master Krashos,
Gems...I love finding stuff like this. Thank you!
Best regards,
quote:
Originally posted by George Krashos
As well as the ones mentioned before, here are some more apocryphal year names:
Year of Swordforging – Polyhedron #67, p.22
Year of the Black Shield – Polyhedron #79, p.7
Year of the Snarling Snowleopard – Polyhedron #80, p.6
Year of the Black Axe – Polyhedron #81, p.8
Year of the Black Banner – Polyhedron #82, p.22
Year of Rising Winds – Polyhedron #83, p.29
Year of Falling Stones – Polyhedron #84, p.19
Year of the Torch – Polyhedron #87, p.8
Year of the Unicorn – Polyhedron #86, p.17
Year of Many Hawks – Polyhedron #85, p.6
Year of the Hunting Hawk – Halls of the High King, p.2
I believe that we used Year of Swordforging for 977DR after we found a glitch in the original Roll of Years - which were always hilarious to find as Steven would go nuts everytime we found another "error" on his 'completed' list.
The above show that there are regional variants to the established Roll of Years. Also I recall many moons ago discussing with Ed how Auguthra could have named years retro-actively (in other words, before she was born). He noted that she wasn't responsible for the entire Roll (although humans and monks of Candlekeep especially would like you to think so ...), and had based her work on other sources, notably some elven seers of repute. You might want to ping him on the Novels section about this.
-- George Krashos
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