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Gyor
Master of Realmslore
1621 Posts |
 Posted - 17 Dec 2023 : 02:19:32
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Fallbacks: Bound for Ruin (FR novel) and now there is also Spelljammer: Memories Wake written by a guy who write a couple of MtG novels (good ones).
In addition to the 3rd Dragonlance novel in the current trilogy, and most likely a Drizzt novel (as yet unannounced, but come on we know it's coming), that's 4 D&D novels next year, two for FR. This year with got Druid's Call, Road to Neverwinter, Honor Among Thieves junior novelization, Lolth Warrior, and a Dragonlance novel.
Is this a sign of a return of D&D novels?
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Ayrik
Great Reader
Canada
7973 Posts |
Posted - 17 Dec 2023 : 02:48:47
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| When will Wizbro realize that "young adults" want material written for "real adults"? |
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Delnyn
Senior Scribe
USA
890 Posts |
Posted - 17 Dec 2023 : 09:08:36
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| I'll hard pass on future novels featuring the Purple-Eyed Cuisinart. |
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Seravin
Master of Realmslore
Canada
1266 Posts |
Posted - 17 Dec 2023 : 09:41:49
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| Let's hope a return to novels. I really miss them, even if I didn't care for anything written in the post time jump so far.. |
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Azar
Master of Realmslore
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Gyor
Master of Realmslore
1621 Posts |
Posted - 18 Dec 2023 : 04:50:09
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Originally posted by Delnyn
I'll hard pass on future novels featuring the Purple-Eyed Cuisinart.
You mean Drizzt? |
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Delnyn
Senior Scribe
USA
890 Posts |
Posted - 18 Dec 2023 : 07:53:31
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Originally posted by Gyor
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Originally posted by Delnyn
I'll hard pass on future novels featuring the Purple-Eyed Cuisinart.
You mean Drizzt?
Yes. I would be OK with a Cadderly novel. |
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Ayrik
Great Reader
Canada
7973 Posts |
Posted - 18 Dec 2023 : 07:58:41
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No Ginsu.
And more Zulkirs. But with less Szassy. |
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Azar
Master of Realmslore
1294 Posts |
Posted - 18 Dec 2023 : 11:28:20
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| Asking the wizards to shift the focus from Drizzt is like asking them to explore areas outside their comfortable slice of coast. Best of luck. |
Stand with anybody that stands right. Stand with him while he is right and part with him when he goes wrong.
Earth names in the Realms are more common than you may think. |
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Ayrik
Great Reader
Canada
7973 Posts |
Posted - 18 Dec 2023 : 12:31:55
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Originally posted by Azar
Asking the wizards to shift the focus from Drizzt is like asking them to explore areas outside their comfortable slice of coast. Best of luck.
The reason that character even exists is that the author was persistent and persuasive and passionate enough to convince the greedy overlords that his "stupid freak munchkin character concept" could be an interesting and vital component for a compelling novel or three.
Let us hope - against the odds - that some of the respected authors in our number (who might possess hypothetical powers of summoning and enchantment) could somehow influence or persuade the greedy overlords that readers who grew up with D&D characters in the 1990s have outgrown their D&D Mary-Sue munchkin characters of the 1990s.
It is a small hope. But it costs nothing to put the word out other than spending a little of Alaundo's coffers, lol. |
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Gyor
Master of Realmslore
1621 Posts |
Posted - 18 Dec 2023 : 16:06:16
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Originally posted by Delnyn
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Originally posted by Gyor
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Originally posted by Delnyn
I'll hard pass on future novels featuring the Purple-Eyed Cuisinart.
You mean Drizzt?
Yes. I would be OK with a Cadderly novel.
Honestly Drizzt isn't even the most important character in his own novels for years now. He's there so they can be called Drizzt novels and given just enough character arc here and there to justify it, but characters like Jarleaxle, Yvonne 2nd, Drizzt's dad, a new Paladin of Drow Moon Maiden, even reincarnated Regis aka Spider Parafan, Drizzt's daughter Brie, etc..., get alot of the spotlight.
Not many complain because alot of his newer characters are as interesting or more so as Drizzt. |
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Azar
Master of Realmslore
1294 Posts |
Posted - 20 Dec 2023 : 14:03:54
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Originally posted by Ayrik
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Originally posted by Azar
Asking the wizards to shift the focus from Drizzt is like asking them to explore areas outside their comfortable slice of coast. Best of luck.
The reason that character even exists is that the author was persistent and persuasive and passionate enough to convince the greedy overlords that his "stupid freak munchkin character concept" could be an interesting and vital component for a compelling novel or three.
Let us hope - against the odds - that some of the respected authors in our number (who might possess hypothetical powers of summoning and enchantment) could somehow influence or persuade the greedy overlords that readers who grew up with D&D characters in the 1990s have outgrown their D&D Mary-Sue munchkin characters of the 1990s.
It is a small hope. But it costs nothing to put the word out other than spending a little of Alaundo's coffers, lol.
In my opinion, the problem is twofold.
Despite the Tieflings' role as the new kid on the block (they're technically not, having first appeared in Planescape, but their presence in mainstream D&D has exploded over the past decade), the Drow are still popular. If you want to significantly cripple Drizzt's popularity, diminish the presence of the Drow as a whole.
Drizzt's status as a paragon (be it genuine or an exaggeration) aside, the character does have some admirable traits that were developed over the course of his escapades; having the renegade's path take a dark turn resulting in him become genuinely evil would detract from his appeal. I would place the difficulty of this task on the same level of making Superman look bad. Again: best of luck  . |
Stand with anybody that stands right. Stand with him while he is right and part with him when he goes wrong.
Earth names in the Realms are more common than you may think. |
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Werthead
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
178 Posts |
Posted - 20 Dec 2023 : 16:16:54
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Originally posted by Gyor
Fallbacks: Bound for Ruin (FR novel) and now there is also Spelljammer: Memories Wake written by a guy who write a couple of MtG novels (good ones).
Django Wrexler, the author of the Shadow Campaigns, a very solid flintlock fantasy series. |
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sleyvas
Skilled Spell Strategist
USA
11703 Posts |
Posted - 21 Dec 2023 : 13:55:05
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I did buy the dragonlance novel, but I've yet to even crack the cover... but I may do that over the christmas break. I haven't bought any of the drizzt books recently or the ones based on the recent movie.... but I'd like to support the novel line. I've only read I think one Jaleigh Johnson (the author for this The Fallbacks: Bound for Ruin novel)... and that was Mistshore... and honestly nothing stuck with me. Now that being said, I can say that about a lot of the novels, since so many of them I've had a decade or more since I read them. What's the feel for her stuff?
I can honestly say I've been sucked into stupid tablet apps that suck down time for the past year, and I need to break that habit... I need to get back into reading more. |
Alavairthae, may your skill prevail
Phillip aka Sleyvas |
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Seethyr
Master of Realmslore
USA
1151 Posts |
Posted - 22 Dec 2023 : 12:36:46
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Originally posted by sleyvas
I can honestly say I've been sucked into stupid tablet apps that suck down time for the past year, and I need to break that habit... I need to get back into reading more.
This has happened to me as well and I’m tired of it. It’s why my writing has slowed down so much. I’m hoping to reinvigorate over the break too with novels and more writing. |
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Ayrik
Great Reader
Canada
7973 Posts |
Posted - 22 Dec 2023 : 12:56:06
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| I do not regret preferring a "dumb" flip phone. No Android, no iOS, no apps, no stores, no distractions. Also, the thing is basically indestructible, which is handy at work. |
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Azar
Master of Realmslore
1294 Posts |
Posted - 22 Dec 2023 : 13:27:04
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Originally posted by Ayrik
I do not regret preferring a "dumb" flip phone. No Android, no iOS, no apps, no stores, no distractions. Also, the thing is basically indestructible, which is handy at work.
Another boon: it is less likely to get pilfered. |
Stand with anybody that stands right. Stand with him while he is right and part with him when he goes wrong.
Earth names in the Realms are more common than you may think. |
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sleyvas
Skilled Spell Strategist
USA
11703 Posts |
Posted - 29 Dec 2023 : 22:21:25
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Originally posted by Seethyr
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Originally posted by sleyvas
I can honestly say I've been sucked into stupid tablet apps that suck down time for the past year, and I need to break that habit... I need to get back into reading more.
This has happened to me as well and I’m tired of it. It’s why my writing has slowed down so much. I’m hoping to reinvigorate over the break too with novels and more writing.
Yeah, and what's worse is that the app I'm playing ... it's this silly star trek fleet command game... the graphics are ... meh ... the game itself started off looking complex, but I'm realizing that its just repeating the same junk over and over and they can't even do their math right (i.e. things say it will give a 20% boost and when you do the math it's like 11.85% or something goofy like that).
I think I'm ready to get back into reading a bit more... but at the same time, I'm thinking about trying out baldurs gate 3 since it is realsmian and apparently it has a lot of good press. I'm also a Harry Potter fan and considering Hogwarts Legacy. Both look interesting. Don't know jack about either. |
Alavairthae, may your skill prevail
Phillip aka Sleyvas |
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Caolin
Senior Scribe
768 Posts |
Posted - 30 Dec 2023 : 07:07:13
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Originally posted by Gyor
even reincarnated Regis aka Spider Parafan
Dear Odin, are you serious?! |
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Ayrik
Great Reader
Canada
7973 Posts |
Posted - 30 Dec 2023 : 09:11:55
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Originally posted by Caolin
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Originally posted by Gyor
even reincarnated Regis aka Spider Parafan
Dear Odin, are you serious?!
Yes. A serious report of a ridiculous character. A character so implausible yet uninteresting that it is essentially a self parody.
https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Spider_Parrafin |
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Caolin
Senior Scribe
768 Posts |
Posted - 30 Dec 2023 : 18:31:03
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Originally posted by Ayrik
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Originally posted by Caolin
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Originally posted by Gyor
even reincarnated Regis aka Spider Parafan
Dear Odin, are you serious?!
Yes. A serious report of a ridiculous character. A character so implausible yet uninteresting that it is essentially a self parody.
https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Spider_Parrafin
OK I remember him now. The Companions was one of the last FR books I read. It's what finally put me off of Salvatore Drizzt novels. Pretty sure I purged it from my memory and you just dredged it back up for me.  |
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Werthead
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
178 Posts |
Posted - 30 Dec 2023 : 18:39:36
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| To be fair I think even Salvatore hated that entire arc and all the hoops he had to jump through to just carry on with the storyline he'd wanted to tell in the first place until WotC interrupted it with the Spellplague (which he told them was a really stupid idea, along with almost every other Realms author and Ed). |
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Gyor
Master of Realmslore
1621 Posts |
Posted - 31 Dec 2023 : 21:08:41
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Originally posted by Werthead
To be fair I think even Salvatore hated that entire arc and all the hoops he had to jump through to just carry on with the storyline he'd wanted to tell in the first place until WotC interrupted it with the Spellplague (which he told them was a really stupid idea, along with almost every other Realms author and Ed).
Yeah it was his book to fix what WotC broke, although getting a second childhood did provide some interesting character growth for the Companions.
Honestly most of the rest of the novels in Sundering series were better, The Companions was just something that had to be done to fix things.
IMHO The Reaver, The Sentienal, and The Godborn were the best novels of the The Sundering series. The Herald was good too, but the Brimstone Saga novels that cane after were even better.
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Caolin
Senior Scribe
768 Posts |
Posted - 01 Jan 2024 : 07:53:29
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Originally posted by Gyor
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Originally posted by Werthead
To be fair I think even Salvatore hated that entire arc and all the hoops he had to jump through to just carry on with the storyline he'd wanted to tell in the first place until WotC interrupted it with the Spellplague (which he told them was a really stupid idea, along with almost every other Realms author and Ed).
Yeah it was his book to fix what WotC broke, although getting a second childhood did provide some interesting character growth for the Companions.
Honestly most of the rest of the novels in Sundering series were better, The Companions was just something that had to be done to fix things.
IMHO The Reaver, The Sentienal, and The Godborn were the best novels of the The Sundering series. The Herald was good too, but the Brimstone Saga novels that cane after were even better.
I actually really liked most of the Sundering novels. At the time I had the same distaste for the event that most did. But upon reflection, the authors did a great job with what they were given. I especially liked Erin M. Evans God Catcher. |
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Werthead
Learned Scribe
United Kingdom
178 Posts |
Posted - 01 Jan 2024 : 23:58:15
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| Yup, well the Second Sundering was basically designed to undo the Spellplague whilst not invalidating all the work the novelists put into the 4E era, so it was basically as good a "let's torch this idea and forget it ever happened," retcon as they were ever going to get and way more than could be reasonably expected, so it's unsurprising they enthusiastically embraced it. |
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Gyor
Master of Realmslore
1621 Posts |
Posted - 04 Jan 2024 : 20:53:23
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Originally posted by Werthead
Yup, well the Second Sundering was basically designed to undo the Spellplague whilst not invalidating all the work the novelists put into the 4E era, so it was basically as good a "let's torch this idea and forget it ever happened," retcon as they were ever going to get and way more than could be reasonably expected, so it's unsurprising they enthusiastically embraced it.
I'd say more like let's cherry pick stuff from various editions and we will use this big event as an excuse, because they left a ton of 4e elements in, not just for novels, because even without retconning, they could have dump those going forward.
Like Tymanther's main cities are still there, Laekarond might still be on Toril (unknown according to Ed Greenwood), the High Imaskari are in exile, but still exists, apparently Akanul is still there (loved Akanul so that was a happy recent surprise), etc..., so it was all cherry picked to make the maximum amount of factions within the fan base happy. |
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Gyor
Master of Realmslore
1621 Posts |
Posted - 25 Jan 2024 : 15:21:39
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| When it comes to Fallbacks: Bound For Ruin I love that they made the Dwarf Cleric look like Mr. T, "I pity the fool who doesn't worship the Gods". I wonder if Baldric has to be knocked out before going.on a Spelljammer too. |
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