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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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 Posted - 23 Jul 2022 : 21:42:30
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So now we have a map of Whisper's Crypt, a place mentioned oft in older Realmslore... But I find myself wondering: do we have any real information to accompany this map? Room descriptions, items (other than a couple of the seven rings of Mhzentul, anything like that?
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ericlboyd
Forgotten Realms Designer
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Posted - 23 Jul 2022 : 22:19:42
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Two of the seven Lost Rings of Mhzentul. (See VGtATM.)
Whisper's rod of transportation. (See FR4 - The Magister.)
8 and 19 are pit traps
9 is a ventilation shaft
1 is the original crypt and Whisper's home
The passageway to the northwest must lead to the level BELOW the level mapped in FRQ1.
Alaundo posted it on CK: https://candlekeep.com/images/sitegfx/Whispers_Crypt.jpg
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
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Posted - 24 Jul 2022 : 06:10:44
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Originally posted by Wooly Rupert
Do we know who originally occupied the crypt?
Ed told us offline that it was the dwarven builders of the Haunted Halls.
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"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus |
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Wooly Rupert
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The Masked Mage
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 24 Jul 2022 : 18:33:03
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It might be my memory playing tricks on me, but I seem to remember that there are 2 places called Whisper's Crypt. This one, and one that was discovered at some point and thought to be this one. The second one was close to but not connected in any real way to the Haunted Halls. I also want to say that the second one was more of a maze-like structure, but have no recollection where that idea comes from.
This gets confusing because there were also at least two Whispers (my memory says 3). The original, the lowish level Zhent in the 1300s, and a newer one, I think in 4th edition but maybe some time in 3rd. |
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Ashe Ravenheart
Great Reader
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Posted - 24 Jul 2022 : 20:42:03
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Originally posted by The Masked Mage
It might be my memory playing tricks on me, but I seem to remember that there are 2 places called Whisper's Crypt. This one, and one that was discovered at some point and thought to be this one. The second one was close to but not connected in any real way to the Haunted Halls. I also want to say that the second one was more of a maze-like structure, but have no recollection where that idea comes from.
This gets confusing because there were also at least two Whispers (my memory says 3). The original, the lowish level Zhent in the 1300s, and a newer one, I think in 4th edition but maybe some time in 3rd.
The original Whisper was a Zhent wizard/spy that was killed by the Knights of Myth Drannor, while the second Whisper was a female rogue that helped Drizzt and Bruenor find Mithral Hall and was later killed by Entreri. |
I actually DO know everything. I just have a very poor index of my knowledge.
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ericlboyd
Forgotten Realms Designer
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Posted - 24 Jul 2022 : 21:36:28
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Originally posted by The Masked Mage
It might be my memory playing tricks on me, but I seem to remember that there are 2 places called Whisper's Crypt. This one, and one that was discovered at some point and thought to be this one. The second one was close to but not connected in any real way to the Haunted Halls. I also want to say that the second one was more of a maze-like structure, but have no recollection where that idea comes from.
This gets confusing because there were also at least two Whispers (my memory says 3). The original, the lowish level Zhent in the 1300s, and a newer one, I think in 4th edition but maybe some time in 3rd.
Supposedly there was a 4e adventure called "Beneath the Haunted Halls." I think it was part of organized play. Never seen it. Perhaps you are thinking of that? |
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
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Posted - 25 Jul 2022 : 03:18:05
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Originally posted by The Masked Mage
It might be my memory playing tricks on me, but I seem to remember that there are 2 places called Whisper's Crypt. This one, and one that was discovered at some point and thought to be this one. The second one was close to but not connected in any real way to the Haunted Halls. I also want to say that the second one was more of a maze-like structure, but have no recollection where that idea comes from.
This gets confusing because there were also at least two Whispers (my memory says 3). The original, the lowish level Zhent in the 1300s, and a newer one, I think in 4th edition but maybe some time in 3rd.
Ed already had two Whispers in his Realms - The Swords of Eveningstar novel comments that Whisper's Crypt was known as that for a long time, and Whisper of the Zhentarim got his name from the location, not vice versa. I queried him about this long ago because Whisper of the Zhentarim's level in the Ol' Grey Box (2nd?) wasn't high enough to cast 'chain lightning'. Ed explained that his power came from his arsenal of magic items, not his personal prowess.
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The Masked Mage
Great Reader
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Posted - 26 Jul 2022 : 16:09:18
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Originally posted by George Krashos
Ed already had two Whispers in his Realms - The Swords of Eveningstar novel comments that Whisper's Crypt was known as that for a long time, and Whisper of the Zhentarim got his name from the location, not vice versa. I queried him about this long ago because Whisper of the Zhentarim's level in the Ol' Grey Box (2nd?) wasn't high enough to cast 'chain lightning'. Ed explained that his power came from his arsenal of magic items, not his personal prowess.
-- George Krashos
These are the first 2, yes. I'm pretty sure somewhere in Candlekeep Ed did a reply about these two, giving an idea of their power levels.
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Originally posted by ericlboyd
Supposedly there was a 4e adventure called "Beneath the Haunted Halls." I think it was part of organized play. Never seen it. Perhaps you are thinking of that?
This might be where I'm remembering the other one from - something I read in a couple of minutes and then mostly forgot :). |
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