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TheIriaeban
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Posted - 24 May 2022 :  16:10:46  Show Profile Send TheIriaeban a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
I have been digging around and I haven't been able to find an elven god of luck. Has anyone seen anything to reference one? I am developing an inn that has a wheel that you can pay to spin that will offer things like free drinks, meals, or even a stay in the inn's "presidential suite". Humans assume that the wheel is dedicated to Tymora but the inn owner is an elf and I would like to have it secretly dedicated to an elven god of luck.

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Posted - 24 May 2022 :  16:56:33  Show Profile Send Gary Dallison a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Luck is random chance and is typically a short term thing. I would imagine that longer lived beings can see the links between seemingly random events, patterns that seem more like fate than random chance

What I'm getting at is that elves and dwarves seem more likely to worship a deity of fate than a deity of luck.

Just my two cents

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Posted - 24 May 2022 :  18:09:52  Show Profile  Visit ericlboyd's Homepage Send ericlboyd a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Here's a good list of elven deities that have been published.

https://ghwiki.greyparticle.com/index.php/Seldarine

I would suggest Erevan Ilesere (detailed in Demihuman Deities) or Alobal Lorfiril (detailed in Races of the Wild and later sources).

https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Erevan_Ilesere
https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Alobal_Lorfiril

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Posted - 24 May 2022 :  20:11:48  Show Profile Send Azar a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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-I feel like Erevan Ilesere would be the closest thing for the short-term, while Labelas Enoreth would be the closest thing for the long-term.

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TheIriaeban
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Posted - 25 May 2022 :  00:27:30  Show Profile Send TheIriaeban a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Thanks everyone. I think I am going to have to go with Alobal Lorfiril. This elf has owned that particular inn/tavern for over 400 years so it would make sense for him to revere the elven god of revelry in some manner.

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CorellonsDevout
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Posted - 08 Jun 2022 :  23:41:44  Show Profile Send CorellonsDevout a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I was also going to suggest Erevan, but Alobal works, too.

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Storyteller Hero
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Posted - 11 Jun 2022 :  08:55:32  Show Profile  Visit Storyteller Hero's Homepage Send Storyteller Hero a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The green elves on Evermeet include a powerful beast spirit/deity named Eagle among their worshipped deities, whose stats are identical to Thunder in 2e Legends and Lore, who happens to be known as both a herald of disaster and a bearer of good fortune.

https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Eagle_(spirit)





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Ayrik
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Posted - 11 Jun 2022 :  09:26:55  Show Profile Send Ayrik a Private Message  Reply with Quote
"Fortune favours the prepared mind ..."

Humans view luck as a fickle thing, it comes, it goes, it shows favour to the fortunate, it shows disfavour to the unfortunate. Fortuna, Tyche, Lakshmi are all described as mercurial goddesses whose passing whims may decide who shall enjoy some luck. Tymora and Bashaba each express this in half measure, bestowing their attentions on some while simply ignoring the luckless others.

Eastern mythologies usually equate the deity of fate, fortune, or luck with wealth. Luck is less about unexpected serendipity or advantage, it's more about the accumulation and enjoyment of prosperity.

I imagine that elves view luck differently. Not as a transient and fickle thing. Not as an economic advantage. But as the (expected) result of talent, skill, knowledge, experience, practice, and discipline. A master archer does not need luck to hit target, he needs no favour from a deity to hit target, he only needs a proper aptitude and a lifetime of dedicated practice with the bow. An elven deity of archery could always determine whether an arrow flies true - but he would not do so by influencing chance, causing an invisible gust of wind or a stray leaf to deflect the shaft in flight - he would do so by influencing the archer instead, causing thoughts to focus differently or a stray impulse to hold the bow differently or to release the arrow at a different moment.

In short, I'm saying that the elven perspective is supposed to be vastly different from the human perspective. They might have difficulty comprehending the need for deities who govern certain human aspects of life. They might have difficulty explaining the need for deities who govern certain elven aspects of life.

An elven archer with enough passion and willpower and time could stubbornly excel at his chosen vocation with or without any assistance (or interference) from luck and the gods. So too with an elven artist, musician, bladedancer, gardener, or hunter - luck would be a foreign concept, the sort of thing children might believe in, the sort of thing inferior beings might desperately invoke in prayers to compensate for limited experience and other deficiencies.

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Edited by - Ayrik on 11 Jun 2022 09:42:58
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Posted - 12 Jun 2022 :  02:49:50  Show Profile Send TBeholder a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Storyteller Hero

The green elves on Evermeet include a powerful beast spirit/deity named Eagle among their worshipped deities, whose stats are identical to Thunder in 2e Legends and Lore, who happens to be known as both a herald of disaster and a bearer of good fortune.

Could be alias of Remnis. He is known to have elven worshipers back on Beastlands - al karak elam (basically, the avariel who live much like green elves).

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