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Athreeren
Learned Scribe
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 Posted - 02 May 2022 : 10:57:44
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I am currently reading The Wyvern's Spur. The FR lore is as well integrated as in Azure Bonds, which makes me think that if I identify a mistake, either I am wrong, or it is a later retcon.
The book is set in the Year of Shadows; it is the year mentioned in Giogi's journal, every event mentioned in the book is consistent with the year being 1358 DR, and the book was published shortly after the Avatars trilogy. So the dating is quite clear. Yet Olive finds a letter dated from 1306, Year of the Temples, which she claims is precisely 27 years earlier. The Roll of the Year gives 1306 DR = Year of Thunder, there is no year of the Temples, and the difference in dates seems to only be explainable by Olive using a different calendar (when speaking with a Cormite). I could understand it if the name of the year 1306 hadn't been decided yet, and The Finder's Spur had been ignored when completing the Roll of the Years, but I can't explain the discrepancy in the numbers.
It's not the first time I see an inconsistency between the Roll of the Years and dates in the novels, but I find that one weird, because of the circumstances (two people in Cormyr using years to date relatively recent events, rather than quotes from books or sages referring to distant times and places). What is the explanation for such chronology issues?
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
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Posted - 02 May 2022 : 13:34:13
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The answer to your question is that Olive is talking in CR (Cormyr Reckoning), not DR (Dalereckoning). To do a conversion you do CR +25 = DR. And if you add 1306 + 25 +27, you get 1358 DR which is the year the novel is set in.
Also, there are a number of apocryphal years - thanks for finding another one for my list! To explain away these errors, Ed Greenwood has long maintained that some areas (Cormyr being one of them) use "regional" year names from time to time to highlight events specific to that time. So, seemingly something occurred regarding the faiths of Faerûn in Cormyr in 1331 DR (1306 CR + 25). Given Azoun IV lost his sister Sulesta to an accident that year, perhaps the grieving mother Tanalusta Truesilver did the rounds of the temples/shrines of Cormyr praying for the soul of her daughter and her afterlife.
-- George Krashos
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Edited by - George Krashos on 03 May 2022 13:22:40 |
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Athreeren
Learned Scribe
141 Posts |
Posted - 02 May 2022 : 14:12:06
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| I thought it could be a different calendar, and I still didn't think to check what was used in Cormyr! Thanks! |
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Steven Schend
Forgotten Realms Designer & Author
USA
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Posted - 03 May 2022 : 16:28:38
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Originally posted by George Krashos
The answer to your question is that Olive is talking in CR (Cormyr Reckoning), not DR (Dalereckoning). To do a conversion you do CR +25 = DR. And if you add 1306 + 25 +27, you get 1358 DR which is the year the novel is set in.
Also, there are a number of apocryphal years - thanks for finding another one for my list! To explain away these errors, Ed Greenwood has long maintained that some areas (Cormyr being one of them) use "regional" year names from time to time to highlight events specific to that time. So, seemingly something occurred regarding the faiths of Faerûn in Cormyr in 1331 DR (1306 CR + 25). Given Azoun IV lost his sister Sulesta to an accident that year, perhaps the grieving mother Tanalusta Truesilver did the rounds of the temples/shrines of Cormyr praying for the soul of her daughter and her afterlife.
-- George Krashos
Here's George showing off that talented ledgermain he's so gifted in performing…and in helping patch over and hide the seams and grafts that are necessary in group-crafted worldbuilding.
Steven
who's responsible for many a year name slip-up himself, which is why George has gotten so good with the "That's not a bug—it's a feature!" response first used by me and Eric Boyd in days of yore… |
For current projects and general natter, see www.steveneschend.com
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TheIriaeban
Master of Realmslore
USA
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Posted - 03 May 2022 : 16:42:40
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Originally posted by Steven Schend
Here's George showing off that talented ledgermain he's so gifted in performing…and in helping patch over and hide the seams and grafts that are necessary in group-crafted worldbuilding.
Steven
who's responsible for many a year name slip-up himself, which is why George has gotten so good with the "That's not a bug—it's a feature!" response first used by me and Eric Boyd in days of yore…
LOL, someone is showing their software development defense...
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"Iriaebor is a fine city. So what if you can have violence between merchant groups break out at any moment. Not every city can offer dinner AND a show."
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Gelcur
Senior Scribe
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Posted - 03 May 2022 : 18:50:48
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| I really do prefer when errors are used as opportunities to expand the mythos. Kudos. |
The party come to a town befallen by hysteria
Rogue: So what's in the general store?
DM: What are you looking for?
Rogue: Whatevers in the store.
DM: Like what?
Rogue: Everything.
DM: There is a lot of stuff.
Rogue: Is there a cart outside?
DM: (rolls) Yes.
Rogue: We'll take it all, we may need it for the greater good. |
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