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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
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Purple Dragon Knight
Master of Realmslore
Canada
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 Posted - 20 May 2004 : 12:13:47
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I agree that Favored Soul has lots of potential though: I wasn't disagreeing with you on that - sorry if this came out wrong. I was merely trying to illustrate my disappointment because I, for one, had been suckered into buying the Miniatures Handbook...  |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
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Arivia
Great Reader
Canada
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Posted - 20 May 2004 : 14:25:34
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| I wouldn't say suckered, either-it does have some fairly good material in it(the war hulk and warchief spring to mind). It's not for everyone, but it was worth the discount price I got it for(Nice 30% of all hardcover books sales...). I'd actually suggest it to new DMs that can't ask more experienced DMs for help/teaching on a regular basis-if only for the final chapter, which is perhaps the best guide to creating dungeons I've seen in quite awhile. Albeit does use the miniatures, but it does talk about special features, different combat types, and other essentials in easily explainable, frankly dumbed down language. |
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The Sage
Procrastinator Most High
Australia
31774 Posts |
Posted - 20 May 2004 : 14:32:50
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I'll admit that I found the War Hulk class intriguing, but I wasn't going to hand over any of my hard earned gold pieces for a tome with material I most likely wouldn't use just to have access to one single class.
Fortunately WotC included the War Hulk class as part of their monthly preview features...
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Purple Dragon Knight
Master of Realmslore
Canada
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Posted - 20 May 2004 : 18:13:49
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What do you mean "suckered"? Do you not use miniatures in your campaigns?
I fell prey to BATTLESYSTEM nostalgia - that's why I bought it. I bought it solely for the Mass Combat rules, in order to get a a decent 3.5 system for armies, siege, etc. I was somewhat disappointed because the book does not provide any rules to convert the 3.5 game in miniatures terms. The book only offers a combat system that, albeit decent and mechanically sound, relies solely on miniatures stats that you must buy separately. Nowhere do they tell you how to convert from 3.5 to miniatures rules... They provide a shady list of "equivalent" or "similar" abilities that you can assign to monsters in order to make them fit the system the closest, but it's mainly - nay, solely! - geared at the D&D Minis. For example, if you have the "Axe Sister", you can find in the Miniatures Book what her abilities mean in terms of using her in a Mass combat; however, if you have Ftr5/Wiz5/Bladesinger5 PC and want to convert that PC into miniatures rules, you have a LOT of work and guesses to make... too many guesses.
And finally: nothing on catapults, ballistaes or fighting from the parapets... 
But the extra Core classes, most specifically the Marshall class, were a gem, I must admit!  |
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Darth KTrava
Learned Scribe
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Posted - 21 May 2004 : 04:30:15
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I've never used the miniatures other than as a supplement to the RPG game. Thus, I have no need to get the minis handbook unless I see it very, very dirt cheap.
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