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Victor_ograygor
Master of Realmslore
Denmark
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Posted - 18 Nov 2020 : 21:14:57
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The Black Road Location Anauroch
The Black Road was the trade route that ran through the great desert of Anauroch. It wound west from the ruins of Teshendale to Llorkh at the foot of the Graypeak Mountains
Questions. Any Forgotten realms novels decribing this place
Traveling distance from the ruins of Teshendale to Llorkh
Any places of specifik interest on this road
Last how do one navigate in the dessert.. With the help of the stars ore another way.
Please share any knowledge you have and have a great day...
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cpthero2
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 18 Nov 2020 : 22:04:54
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Master Victor_ograygor,
quote: Any Forgotten realms novels decribing this place
It is written about in the novel, The Parched Sea, a Harper's novel.
quote: Traveling distance from the ruins of Teshendale to Llorkh
Using the following path, it would be approximately 781 miles:
- Llorkh to top of Dawn Pass: 32 miles
- Dawn Pass to the Lonely Moor (somewhat proximate to Aumvor's Castle): 129 miles
- The Lonely Moor to Dagger Falls: 520 miles (bear in mind that that distance there is a little bit of as the crow flies, but pretty close)
- Dagger Falls to Teshwave: 100 miles (I am using Teshwave as the center of the form Dale, Teshendale)
quote: Any places of specific interest on this road
There are definitely places of interest along the way:
- Skull in the Sands
- Elah'zahd (House of the Moon: a sacred temple to Selune)
- Several oases, including: Yliyl, Well of the Cloven Rock, Bhaerlith, Olomaa, Colored Waters
- Yeoman's Loft (a bit off the road, but quite an awesome place!)
- The Teshenfalls Pass with Shraevyn's Tomb not far off the road at all in the Giant's Craw Valley
quote: Last how do one navigate in the dessert.. With the help of the stars ore another way.
I would consider looking up how the Tuareg use astronavigation. They have nomads that use it to this day. My understanding is that they still maintain sub-Saharan trade routes to this day, and they allegedly brought that skill from their predecessors, the Berber.
Best regards,
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Delwa
Master of Realmslore
USA
1271 Posts |
Posted - 20 Nov 2020 : 23:07:02
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I ran a brief (six months, meeting every other week) campaign across the Anauroch. PCs had to make it from the West side of Anauroch to the East, using the Black Road. When researching this, I found this little tidbit in the 2e Anauroch supplement. It proved interesting, and allowed the PCs to discover a Decanter of Endless Water, which is the only reason they survived the desert crossing in the first place. I simply had the Decanter as an object left at the bottom of a man-made hole, and magics kept the oasis from spreading too far. PCs found the decanter and... well, the oasis is gone, interrupting the road in such a way that the next Zhent caravan would find itself at a dried up oasis.
From page 29:
quote: Please refer to "The Sword" chapter for details of Zhentarim bases established in the desert (including an ingenious practice of "growing" an oasis around a decanter of endless water). At least five such bases are known to exist in the desert: Bhaerlith, Haunga, Ma'atar, Olomaa, and Vuerthyl.
If those oasis are of interest to you, thought it might be worth drawing attention to. |
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Edited by - Delwa on 20 Nov 2020 23:08:16 |
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cpthero2
Great Reader
USA
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Posted - 20 Nov 2020 : 23:30:14
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Master Delwa,
Interesting development for the campaign. Amazing how something so simple, can change something in that way. Though, I would imagine with all of the talent and skill in the ranks of the Zhentarim, that they would find a way to make it work with other magic items too, of course, to their advantage. ;)
I am curious though: what did you do as DM to keep them "busy" during their travels? Surely, not just combat all of the time. Hardly seems suitable.
Best regards,
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Delnyn
Senior Scribe
USA
958 Posts |
Posted - 21 Nov 2020 : 11:53:32
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Do the Zhentarim consider a tour of duty in Anauroch a form of punishment? The assumption is a time before the return of Thultanthar to Toril. |
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cpthero2
Great Reader
USA
2286 Posts |
Posted - 21 Nov 2020 : 20:10:38
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Senior Scribe Delnyn,
quote: Do the Zhentarim consider a tour of duty in Anauroch a form of punishment? The assumption is a time before the return of Thultanthar to Toril.
I cannot see how Zhentilar would not see such a duty station/tour of duty to be a punishment. I think they likely saw it as the desolate, removed, and unamibitious location that it is. It's like in the U.S. Army, who wants to be stationed at Ft. Irwin? lol It sucks.
Best regards,
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Marco Volo
Learned Scribe
France
204 Posts |
Posted - 27 Dec 2021 : 08:41:23
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Hi everyone, I "up"this topic to ask anyone if there is a description of the road itself and how it is built? I plan to have my PC help building the road but find myself lacking information about material, earthwork, paving? And if there isn't any source, how would you handle that? |
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Gary Dallison
Great Reader
United Kingdom
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The Masked Mage
Great Reader
USA
2420 Posts |
Posted - 27 Dec 2021 : 10:47:49
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You REALLY want the old Anauroch sourcebook for this question. It details all the location's, the Zhent plans, the custom oasises (sp? :P). The answers take up about half the book.
And yes, definitely not an actual road, it is a winding route that avoids the big hazards of the desert to cross it. Also, starting from Shadow Gap and the Stonelands is like a sub-route. (Tesh Vale south through Daggerdale and skirting Shadowdale through the gap). Different challenges and dangers. Same destination. |
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Ayrik
Great Reader
Canada
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The Masked Mage
Great Reader
USA
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Ayrik
Great Reader
Canada
7989 Posts |
Posted - 27 Dec 2021 : 19:32:21
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It doesn't have to specifically be that link, anyhow. It would just a pointer to 2E "FR13: Anauroch", you could find it through any online search engine. |
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The Masked Mage
Great Reader
USA
2420 Posts |
Posted - 27 Dec 2021 : 20:02:12
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quote: Originally posted by Ayrik
It doesn't have to specifically be that link, anyhow. It would just a pointer to 2E "FR13: Anauroch", you could find it through any online search engine.
No worries, I already have that one... and every other one pre-5E :), except a couple polyhedrons.
Although if anyone knows a source for Endless Quest 12, 14, and 16, I'd be overjoyed. |
Edited by - The Masked Mage on 27 Dec 2021 20:04:45 |
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Gary Dallison
Great Reader
United Kingdom
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Kentinal
Great Reader
4689 Posts |
Posted - 27 Dec 2021 : 20:52:21
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quote: Originally posted by Gary Dallison
What's so special about endless quest 12, 14, and 16
It might be just to fill out collection.
However I did find this site: https://gamebooks.org/Series/79/Show that appears to provide reviews of all of the gamebooks. |
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The Masked Mage
Great Reader
USA
2420 Posts |
Posted - 27 Dec 2021 : 21:04:44
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What's so special is a couple things... the early choose your own adventure books were great all around. Good art, good fun.
Beyond that, Kenital is correct, I have the rest of the series up to number 18 in PDF format (there are more, but the early ones were best). 14 and 16 in particular were among my favorites back when they came out, so it is very annoying that those are ones I'm missing :) |
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Gary Dallison
Great Reader
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Marco Volo
Learned Scribe
France
204 Posts |
Posted - 27 Dec 2021 : 22:00:14
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Thanks a lot! |
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The Masked Mage
Great Reader
USA
2420 Posts |
Posted - 28 Dec 2021 : 14:12:03
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quote: Originally posted by Gary Dallison
Ahh, i thought they had realmslore in that i didnt have. I'll keep an eye out for them though
I think a couple are technically FR, but they were never "official" like the Double Diamond books. |
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Gary Dallison
Great Reader
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
36804 Posts |
Posted - 28 Dec 2021 : 15:29:34
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I read most of them, back in the day.
The original run of the books couldn't have been set in the Realms -- they all came out before the Realms was a published setting.
I have a special fondness for Under Dragon's Wing. I happened across that one by chance, and read it because I was a huge fan of the Choose Your Own Adventure books, which Endless Quest was a knock-off of. Under Dragon's Wing was actually the first fantasy book that I read. |
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