quote:

---

I was wondering...are there canonical examples of artifacts or even "mundane" magical items produced by two or more cooperating religions working in unison? There is this instrument I want to create, but I first wish to get a sense of how much such a creation would "break" established lore (i.e., the way the faiths interact with one another).

---

quote:

---

I don't know of a canon example, but I wouldn't be surprised to find priesthoods working together in this way.

---

quote:

---

I was just using that as an example where the gods can cooperate in "enchanting an object".

---

quote:

---

However, if you want to go down that road, I would say any relic they cooperatively produced would be NG. Most of the gods involved are NG, with a couple CG, and one N. I do not see any evil deities (at least in Faiths & Avatars, the same-edition deities reference for Code of the Harpers) involved in the Harpers. If an evil Harper got a hold of it and used it for an evil purpose, it would either not work or there would be some divine retribution heading that Harper's way.

---

quote:

---

Originally posted by cpthero2

Great Reader Darden,

I only planned to leave it there, only as a point. I'm certain if Great Reader Ayrik were so predisposed, that I could get him to engage me on the other scroll. Which, I would love to do Great Reader Ayrik! :)

I will absolutely endeavor to leave it at just that point, so that the scroll's don't cross contaminate.

Best regards,

---

quote:

---

Originally posted by Dalor Darden

Please don't.

---

quote:

---

Originally posted by Azar

quote:

---

Originally posted by Dalor Darden

Please don't.

---

Pardon? Why is this idea I'm considering objectionable?

---

quote:

---

Originally posted by cpthero2

Great Reader Darden,

I am indeed happy to know that I did not offend thee! I also concur with you that Learned Scribe Azar's idea was "wonderful"! :)

Best regards,

---

quote:

---

Originally posted by Ayrik

It's not about such mundane things like two churches getting along well enough to collaborate on fashioning an epic godly item.
From the perspective of a deity that's too binding. Too problematic. It's a permanent reminder of some shared oath or purpose with other deities - who might, as time moves forward - become competitors, adversaries, or even bitter enemies. The deities don't always have choice in the matter, but their little priesthoods and faithfuls aren't positioned (and really shouldn't dare) to impose such restrictions onto the beings they worship.

---

quote:

---

In times past, there was an group of secluded Eldathyn (Eldathyns?) specifically focused on healing the mind. Sadly, there is never a shortage of those scarred by violence and not all scars rest on the skin.

One day, a group of travel-weary Mililans in the area visited the Eldathyns for a bit of respite. After both groups had dined for the evening, the Tuneservants of the divine troupe played gentle melodies as thanks for the generous meal. The Peacemen and Peacewomen found that some of the troubled souls sitting nearby in silent observation responded well to the music played by their guests. Seeing the value in this emotional outlet, they requested that the Mililans make a return trip to instruct their more flexible priests in the ways of music. The eldest of the Mililans agreed to this request and an arrangement was made.

Both branches of their respective faiths came together with such regularity that the Mililans one day decided to permanently post a band of their most introspective members as a gesture of goodwill. Eventually, a potent magical artifact was born from the union of their various efforts: the Mist Flute.

---

• Calm aggressive emotions.


• Quench one's thirst for an entire day.


• Conjure an obscuring mist.


• Summon rain.


• Nullify/absorb magic or magical attacks that involve dehydration and/or heat (such as Abi-Dalzim's Horrid Wilting) A strong enough opposing force causes the enchanted water droplets that compose the flute to fly apart; weaker forces cause a reduction in ability until the flute can fully regenerate.

quote:

---

Originally posted by Azar

I feel like a black hat that has just wandered into a saloon only to see the patrons suddenly vacate the premises .

---

quote:

---

I feel like a black hat that has just wandered into a saloon only to see the patrons suddenly vacate the premises .

---

quote:

---

Originally posted by Kentinal



I am sure you are not considered a black hat. Though it appears you got caught mixed up with side issues/disagreements of other scribes at candlekeep in this scroll.

---

quote:

---

Originally posted by cpthero2

Learned Scribe Azar,

I feel you are from a "black hat." I for one greatly appreciate your contributions, discussions, and involvement at the 'Keep.

Best regards,

---

quote:

---

Originally posted by Kentinal

quote:

---

Originally posted by Azar

I feel like a black hat that has just wandered into a saloon only to see the patrons suddenly vacate the premises .

---

I am sure you are not considered a black hat. Though it appears you got caught mixed up with side issues/disagreements of other scribes at candlekeep in this scroll.

---

quote:

---

One day, a group of travel-weary Mililans in the area visited the Eldathyns for a bit of respite. After both groups had dined for the evening, the Tuneservants of the divine troupe played gentle melodies as thanks for the generous meal. The Peacemen and Peacewomen found that some of the troubled souls sitting nearby in silent observation responded well to the music played by their guests. Seeing the value in this emotional outlet, they requested that the Mililans make a return trip to instruct their more flexible priests in the ways of music. The eldest of the Mililans agreed to this request and an arrangement was made.

Both branches of their respective faiths came together with such regularity that the Mililans one day decided to permanently post a band of their most introspective members as a gesture of goodwill. Eventually, a potent magical artifact was born from the union of their various efforts: the Mist Flute

Unlike mundane examples of the instrument, this creation is formed from solidified mist. If dispelled, dispersed or otherwise disintegrated, the flute will automatically re-form (depending on the ambient moisture content, this could take anywhere from hours to weeks). Only those of pure thought are able to use the flute to its fullest capacity.

Below are just some of its powers.

• Calm aggressive emotions.


• Quench one's thirst for an entire day.


• Conjure an obscuring mist.


• Summon rain.


• Nullify/absorb magic or magical attacks that involve dehydration and/or heat (such as Abi-Dalzim's Horrid Wilting) A strong enough opposing force causes the enchanted water droplets that compose the flute to fly apart; weaker forces cause a reduction in ability until the flute can fully regenerate.

Thus far, I've tentatively settled on this specimen resembling a shakuhachi; perhaps one of the Mililans is an emigrant from Wa?

---

quote:

---

As I see it, there are multiple reasons why this works/isn't a bridge too far.

1. There is - to my knowledge - no history of conflict between Eldath and Milil.
2. Both Eldath and Milil are Neutral Good in Alignment; both deities and the core of their worshipers basically believe in doing what's best without bias towards either restructuring or deconstructing the world...or at least their milieu.
3. While Milil isn't explicitly devoted to pacifism the way Eldath is, he's more of a lover than a fighter (he prefers to make music and to encourage others to find their own creativity through poetry and song). Also, his avatar has the ability to make others in his presence feel at peace.
4. The artifact in question is purely defensive. Yes, a devious enough mind could no doubt find a way to pervert its intention, but it is much more difficult to misuse a creation not designed for violence or domination.

---