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The Arcanamach
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Posted - 09 Mar 2020 :  17:47:08  Show Profile Send The Arcanamach a Private Message  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Just curious if anyone has tried setting Paizo's Kingmaker AP in the Realms? If so, where and how did it go?

I really want to center it on Daggerford but that region is rather well developed. I could do the Dalelands but then that means possible establishing the Dales as a kingdom and I kind of prefer keeping the Dalelands as is.

Border Kingdoms is probably perfect but my heart is further north.

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keftiu
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Posted - 09 Mar 2020 :  19:24:34  Show Profile Send keftiu a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Border Kingdoms has always seemed the best bet.

If you’re a 4e fan like I am, the Vilhon Wilds might also be perfect, though you’d need to change who some of the other powers are.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 09 Mar 2020 :  19:32:07  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
The Border Kingdoms would be my first choice, as well. There's a great DM's Guild supplement, from Ed's pen, on that area.

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cpthero2
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Posted - 09 Mar 2020 :  19:47:44  Show Profile Send cpthero2 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Master Arcanamach,

I in the process of adapting multiple AP's to the Realms. Kingmaker is being built in the Shining South, centered around Ulgarth. I'm also building Skull and Shackles in the Sea of Fallen Stars, and Legacy of Fire in the Calimshan'ish area.

I haven't run it yet, so I can't answer that question. However, I run sandbox campaigns, and as such, there are edits I make to conform that AP to an overarching meta-theme, as well as adding in other modules to flesh out a roughly 2 - 4 million square mile area, so not apples to apples either.

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quote:
Originally posted by The Arcanamach

Just curious if anyone has tried setting Paizo's Kingmaker AP in the Realms? If so, where and how did it go?

I really want to center it on Daggerford but that region is rather well developed. I could do the Dalelands but then that means possible establishing the Dales as a kingdom and I kind of prefer keeping the Dalelands as is.

Border Kingdoms is probably perfect but my heart is further north.


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keftiu
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Posted - 09 Mar 2020 :  20:20:23  Show Profile Send keftiu a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Oh, another 4e-era suggestion; you could set it in Wealdath, amid the mess from Tethyr’s shrinking influence and control. Allows you to keep the trolls from the AP, and make Amn a looming threat.

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cpthero2
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Posted - 09 Mar 2020 :  20:38:54  Show Profile Send cpthero2 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Learned Scribe keftiu,

Great idea. I think adding in Calimshan to that though as well would be a good idea. That gets all of the stakeholders around involved in a really great, deep, rich way with three distinctly different cultures. :) Lot's of options for the DM in a sandbox campaign.

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Originally posted by keftiu

Oh, another 4e-era suggestion; you could set it in Wealdath, amid the mess from Tethyr’s shrinking influence and control. Allows you to keep the trolls from the AP, and make Amn a looming threat.


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keftiu
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Posted - 09 Mar 2020 :  21:07:09  Show Profile Send keftiu a Private Message  Reply with Quote
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Learned Scribe keftiu,

Great idea. I think adding in Calimshan to that though as well would be a good idea. That gets all of the stakeholders around involved in a really great, deep, rich way with three distinctly different cultures. :) Lot's of options for the DM in a sandbox campaign.

Best regards,




quote:
Originally posted by keftiu

Oh, another 4e-era suggestion; you could set it in Wealdath, amid the mess from Tethyr’s shrinking influence and control. Allows you to keep the trolls from the AP, and make Amn a looming threat.





POCGamer's thoughts on the Amn/Tethyr/Calimnshan tangle as more explicitly being an analogue for Moorish Iberia is a fascinating one, and I think adds some fantastic extra flavor to something that feels as traditional as Kingmaker skews.

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cpthero2
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Posted - 09 Mar 2020 :  21:46:27  Show Profile Send cpthero2 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Learned Scribe keftiu,

I can see that. Especially with Athkatla being a slaver city. That makes a lot of sense. Though, those pesky Elves are right in the middle as always.

Burn it all down. haha

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quote:
Originally posted by cpthero2

Learned Scribe keftiu,

Great idea. I think adding in Calimshan to that though as well would be a good idea. That gets all of the stakeholders around involved in a really great, deep, rich way with three distinctly different cultures. :) Lot's of options for the DM in a sandbox campaign.

Best regards,




quote:
Originally posted by keftiu

Oh, another 4e-era suggestion; you could set it in Wealdath, amid the mess from Tethyr’s shrinking influence and control. Allows you to keep the trolls from the AP, and make Amn a looming threat.





POCGamer's thoughts on the Amn/Tethyr/Calimnshan tangle as more explicitly being an analogue for Moorish Iberia is a fascinating one, and I think adds some fantastic extra flavor to something that feels as traditional as Kingmaker skews.


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Brimstone
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Posted - 10 Mar 2020 :  05:19:35  Show Profile Send Brimstone a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Border Kingdom/Lake of Steam area would be perfect.


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Brimstone
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Posted - 10 Mar 2020 :  05:22:09  Show Profile Send Brimstone a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Wooly Rupert

The Border Kingdoms would be my first choice, as well. There's a great DM's Guild supplement, from Ed's pen, on that area.


Here is Ed's Border Kingdoms from DM's Guild.

"These things also I have observed: that knowledge of our world is
to be nurtured like a precious flower, for it is the most precious
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words unwritten and set them down ere they fade . . . Learn
then, well, the arts of reading, writing, and listening true, and they
will lead you to the greatest art of all: understanding."
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Edited by - Brimstone on 10 Mar 2020 05:22:46
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cpthero2
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Posted - 12 Mar 2020 :  02:04:56  Show Profile Send cpthero2 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Great Reader Brimstone,

Wow, the detail in the Border Kingdoms there is frickin' awesome! That is the kind of awesome-sauce I love to see! :)

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quote:
Originally posted by Brimstone

Border Kingdom/Lake of Steam area would be perfect.




Higher Atlar
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keftiu
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Posted - 12 Mar 2020 :  04:04:57  Show Profile Send keftiu a Private Message  Reply with Quote
There’s also this coming: https://twitter.com/ghc_and_tacos/status/1237825806128361473?s=21

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cpthero2
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Posted - 12 Mar 2020 :  07:02:36  Show Profile Send cpthero2 a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Learned Scribe keftiu,

Thanks for sharing that! I hope that is all fluff and very little crunch. I want that lore! :)

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Originally posted by keftiu

There’s also this coming: https://twitter.com/ghc_and_tacos/status/1237825806128361473?s=21


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