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Arivia
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Posted - 27 Apr 2004 :  00:25:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote  Delete Topic
Slashdot(\.)
Skip Slashdot(BBC News)

The BBC News article is the real meat; however I included the Slashdot link for a few interesting comments...

Thoughts?

Oh, and happy birthday to you...happy...

Edited by - Arivia on 28 Apr 2004 10:55:50

RogueAssassin
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Posted - 27 Apr 2004 :  00:55:34  Show Profile  Visit RogueAssassin's Homepage Send RogueAssassin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Great Article. Im still a "newbie" in DnD, ive played for a little less than 3 years now, and i just want to salute the guys who have playing it for so long. its truely the greatest game ive ever played, and it acctually makes you use your head unlike alot of games out there today. Thank you To Gary Gygax and Dave Arneson and also to Ed Greenwood. Thank you to the authors of DnD novels as well Mr Salvatore you were practically the only reason that i through my junior high years and my early highschool years! I REALLY hope that all of these people read this post just so they know that they are still inspiring new generations of kids. Also id like to thank he Creators of CandleKeep for keeping this site awesome and also keeping it free of stuff that isnt crap.

Again Thanks to The Creators, Writers, and Players of Forgotten Realms and DnD. Keep on truckin.

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Wooly Rupert
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Posted - 27 Apr 2004 :  01:34:47  Show Profile Send Wooly Rupert a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I've been playing for 12 years now, though there's not nearly as much actual gaming time in there as I should like...

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Sarta
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Posted - 27 Apr 2004 :  02:55:26  Show Profile Send Sarta a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I've been playing since Christmas of 1977. Over the years, I have helped form 5 gaming clubs, played with literally thousands of different players, and been to dozens of conventions. I wouldn't trade this hobby for any other. (which is probably a good thing given the three floor to ceiling bookshelves of gaming books I have).

My only real regret is not keeping track of all the people who have drifted away.

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kahonen
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Posted - 27 Apr 2004 :  13:29:56  Show Profile  Visit kahonen's Homepage Send kahonen a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I've been playing since around 1976 - 1977 and started using the rules booklets shown in the article on the BBC website - I've still got them at home despite some crazy prices I've been offered to buy them from me.

I still get as much of a kick from the game as I did when I first started. I've played sessions in trenches while on exercise in Germany and in a snow hole in Norway. At one point while I was on exercise in Canada, the exercise commander, (a Brigadier), came to our location to see what the commotion was and ended up staying the night so he could join in.

I've introduced many people to the game and my two sons (18 and 21) now run their own parties and are very good, capable DMs.

I've even used D&D as an educational aid for children with learning difficulties. Surprising how much more interest and effort you put in learning to read when "your life depends on it".

I find it remarkably sad when I consider how the game has changed over the years. What Hasbro has done to the game is a crime - it didn't need fixing, it was never broken.

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Lord Rad
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Posted - 27 Apr 2004 :  14:05:53  Show Profile  Visit Lord Rad's Homepage Send Lord Rad a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well said, kahonen!

Im struggling to move from AD&D 2nd ed to 3/3.5.... something inside me says "no, dont do it" Everything is just too crunchy lately

Anyway, I didnt start D&D until the early 1990's, starting using the old D&D rules before moving on to AD&D 2nd ed and the Mystara settings. I then moved onto DMing in the Realms with the occassional playing (rather than DMing) in Mystara and Ravenloft. Ive also taken up Ravenloft around 1995 but FR is still number one!

The article on the BBC site was nice to see, although the headline and the responses were very sad.... a bit of a feeling of "Dungeons & Dragons? oh yeah I remember that...wow is it still going?". It shouldnt be like that. The name is known throughout the world, so the most should be made of it, not leave it confined to the odd hobby store . When I first started playing D&D, the products could be found in most bookstores, Virgin Megastores, newsagent chains etc. but now, its hard to come by, theres no wonder old players think its a defunct product

Thanks Hasbro, you do the hobby a great service


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Arivia
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Posted - 27 Apr 2004 :  16:44:22  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Lord Rad
The article on the BBC site was nice to see, although the headline and the responses were very sad.... a bit of a feeling of "Dungeons & Dragons? oh yeah I remember that...wow is it still going?". It shouldnt be like that. The name is known throughout the world, so the most should be made of it, not leave it confined to the odd hobby store . When I first started playing D&D, the products could be found in most bookstores, Virgin Megastores, newsagent chains etc. but now, its hard to come by, theres no wonder old players think its a defunct product

Thanks Hasbro, you do the hobby a great service



Yes, I don't think Maxim was the right place to advertise for 3e...
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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 27 Apr 2004 :  18:33:16  Show Profile  Visit Bookwyrm's Homepage Send Bookwyrm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by kahonen

I've been playing since around 1976 - 1977 and started using the rules booklets shown in the article on the BBC website - I've still got them at home despite some crazy prices I've been offered to buy them from me.


So does a professor of mine. Though he doesn't have time to play anymore, he does like to say how he was right there at the beginning.

quote:

I still get as much of a kick from the game as I did when I first started. I've played sessions in trenches while on exercise in Germany and in a snow hole in Norway. At one point while I was on exercise in Canada, the exercise commander, (a Brigadier), came to our location to see what the commotion was and ended up staying the night so he could join in.


Just goes to show what you can do and where you can go with a game that just needs your head and an occasional dice throw.

Congratulations on getting a Brigger interested.

quote:

I've even used D&D as an educational aid for children with learning difficulties. Surprising how much more interest and effort you put in learning to read when "your life depends on it".


Speaking as someone with an LD (though not the same as what you're referring to), I have to say that's a wonderful idea.

quote:

I find it remarkably sad when I consider how the game has changed over the years. What Hasbro has done to the game is a crime - it didn't need fixing, it was never broken.


Well, I certainly agree that Hasbro hasn't lived up to their positions as caretakers of the game. Certainly no argument there! However, since 3e was what I started with, except for the old computer games, I can't say it isn't at least somewhat more streamlined than 2e.

And I wouldn't even have as much of a problem with krunchy if they would just pay attention to those who play for the story!

quote:
Originally posted by Lord Rad

Im struggling to move from AD&D 2nd ed to 3/3.5.... something inside me says "no, dont do it" Everything is just too crunchy lately


See above, Rad. And don't be afraid to use house rules. (Like I would have to tell you that.)

quote:

The article on the BBC site was nice to see, although the headline and the responses were very sad.... a bit of a feeling of "Dungeons & Dragons? oh yeah I remember that...wow is it still going?". It shouldnt be like that.



Indeed not. I tried looking for a place to give my own response to the article, but didn't find one.

I also have to say that it was a little strange. Normally people who report things with the slant the BBC has are the people against D&D, yet they don't accuse us of being devil-worshippers.

quote:
Originally posted by Arivia

Yes, I don't think Maxim was the right place to advertise for 3e...


Maxim!? You're kidding! I wonder what genius thought that one up.

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hammer of Moradin
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Posted - 27 Apr 2004 :  19:01:43  Show Profile  Visit hammer of Moradin's Homepage Send hammer of Moradin a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I missed the first five years of D&D, but once I started I couldn't stop. Computer games and board games are just fill the time between real role-playing games.

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Arivia
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Posted - 27 Apr 2004 :  22:17:01  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Bookwyrm
quote:
Originally posted by Arivia

Yes, I don't think Maxim was the right place to advertise for 3e...


Maxim!? You're kidding! I wonder what genius thought that one up.



No, I'm not...Even some of the 3e advertisements seemed to be oriented towards that crowd...
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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 27 Apr 2004 :  22:27:32  Show Profile  Visit Bookwyrm's Homepage Send Bookwyrm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
And here I thought they were aiming for the young people who didn't care about roleplaying . . .

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Posted - 28 Apr 2004 :  00:23:51  Show Profile  Visit Darth KTrava's Homepage Send Darth KTrava a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I'm a relative "newbie" to playing D&D compared to these folks..... I've been playing only for about 4 years (the introduction of 3rd ed and some friends who wanted to play) and have been playing ever since. I've mainly used it to relieve tension from work and to have fun with those very same friends. They, on the other hand, have been playing for 15+ years each.

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Bookwyrm
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Posted - 28 Apr 2004 :  06:13:44  Show Profile  Visit Bookwyrm's Homepage Send Bookwyrm a Private Message  Reply with Quote
More than me, Darth. I've been on this only since I joined these forums. Unless you count the books and computer games (whose descriptions of THAC0 were confusing the heck out of me), my first exposure to D&D was after I came here.

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Posted - 28 Apr 2004 :  09:52:50  Show Profile  Visit Alaundo's Homepage Send Alaundo a Private Message  Reply with Quote
Well met

I hear of a tome, a tome of such a celebration Do any scribes herein intend to own such a tome? I, for one, will certainly do so, as I was impressed by the Silver Anniversary box by TSR some time ago.

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Arivia
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Posted - 28 Apr 2004 :  10:55:06  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Alaundo

Well met

I hear of a tome, a tome of such a celebration Do any scribes herein intend to own such a tome? I, for one, will certainly do so, as I was impressed by the Silver Anniversary box by TSR some time ago.



I'm inclined to-if I have the money when that time comes...5 years isn't that long ago, Alaundo...not when discussing ancient lore...
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Lashan
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Posted - 30 Apr 2004 :  17:38:13  Show Profile  Visit Lashan's Homepage Send Lashan a Private Message  Reply with Quote
I've been playing since the original boxed set. I don't even know what year that was. The first product that I got was the red boxed set for BASIC. You didn't like THAC0? Well, we would have been happy to have THAC0 when *I* first started

Wow....talk about a long time ago. I first heard of the Forgotten Realms in Ed Greenwood's Dragon magazine articles. I always wished and dreamed that that game world would be created for us dnders to play in. I'm glad that was handled!

As for Hasbro and DnD, I am just concerned that they are just trying to maximize profits and don't care about the story or even the game of DnD. Perhaps someone else will want to buy it from them at some point?
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VEDSICA
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Posted - 01 May 2004 :  17:22:17  Show Profile  Visit VEDSICA's Homepage Send VEDSICA a Private Message  Reply with Quote
First off great article.Pretty cool!!!I haven't played in a few years now.But I also started with the original box set.It's come a long way for sure.

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