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Mrestos Khorvaen
Acolyte
Spain
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 Posted - 19 Dec 2019 : 12:46:47
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First of all, this is not a job offer.
I'm planning to ambush my PCs group with a tribe of humanoids, lackeys of a green hag (long story). First i planned ogres, but I think it could be fun having a monster able to swim or jump in the mud, making the combat more difficult.
At least, funny for me, the DM.
I was thinking about bullywugs, but the PCs are at level 5, and I need something more difficult.
Any suggestions, anyone?
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Dalor Darden
Great Reader
USA
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Mrestos Khorvaen
Acolyte
Spain
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Dalor Darden
Great Reader
USA
4211 Posts |
Posted - 19 Dec 2019 : 15:44:37
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My next suggestion would be Hagspawn.
You can have as many as you like, give them classes/levels and make them as dangerous as you want. |
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ericlboyd
Forgotten Realms Designer
USA
2089 Posts |
Posted - 19 Dec 2019 : 17:37:58
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quote:
Originally posted by Dalor Darden
My next suggestion would be Hagspawn.
You can have as many as you like, give them classes/levels and make them as dangerous as you want.
Hagspawn are canonically in the Utter East.
I gave an unofficial backstory for why they might be found in the Haglands west of Dragonspear Castle in the North. See Under Illefarn Anew. |
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Wrigley
Senior Scribe
Czech Republic
605 Posts |
Posted - 19 Dec 2019 : 21:42:03
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| I would go for some powered up lizardfolk or lacedons (water ghouls). |
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SaMoCon
Senior Scribe
USA
403 Posts |
Posted - 20 Dec 2019 : 01:56:02
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| I know I'm going to catch flak for this but... Water Genasi born of myriad other swamp folk? Have them not all be the same but a mismatched group from lizardmen to bullywugs and even a human or halfling parent to show that the hag had cobbled together these lackeys specifically. They have the natural land & water movements that you want. |
Make the best use of the system that's there, then modify the mechanics that don't allow you to have the fun you are looking for. |
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Diffan
Great Reader
USA
4459 Posts |
Posted - 20 Dec 2019 : 02:00:59
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| Genasi need not necessarily be of Human stock specifically correct? |
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Ayrik
Great Reader
Canada
7989 Posts |
Posted - 20 Dec 2019 : 02:12:22
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Yes, lizardmen are excellent swampers.
Or, yes, good old bullywogs, a "common" monster which PCs never seem to actually encounter.
Or some slimy slaadi if you're feeling cruel.
Illithids if you're feeling especially malign.
Hydras or a young black dragon might be interesting, too,if your PCs are geared up for the challenge. |
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Edited by - Ayrik on 20 Dec 2019 02:15:42 |
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SaMoCon
Senior Scribe
USA
403 Posts |
Posted - 20 Dec 2019 : 02:13:20
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| According to their write-ups from 3e to 5e they are humans specifically. I never understood such a segregation especially since there are other races that have more in common with the elemental denizens from which the genasi are born. That's why I "house rule" that (see my signature). |
Make the best use of the system that's there, then modify the mechanics that don't allow you to have the fun you are looking for. |
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Wooly Rupert
Master of Mischief
USA
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Posted - 20 Dec 2019 : 05:14:19
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| Genasi are written up as human/planar mixes -- but there are other planetouched. So I don't see why you couldn't take a regular water genasi, make it lizard folk, and maybe change an ability to make it something different. |
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Regar Khorvaen
Acolyte
Spain
21 Posts |
Posted - 20 Dec 2019 : 20:45:19
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| After due thinking, I believe boggarts are the best option. |
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Seethyr
Master of Realmslore
USA
1224 Posts |
Posted - 21 Dec 2019 : 06:26:46
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| You might have to do a little homebrewin’ but sivs are an option. |
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Nilus Reynard
Learned Scribe
Canada
137 Posts |
Posted - 21 Dec 2019 : 20:20:03
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| Lizardfolk are always a good stand by when you are looking for a swamp related encounter. Put a lizardfolk cleric/shaman of the lizardfolk deity Semuanya in the mix as well, if you want more of a challenge for the party. |
Nilus Reynard
Doom Master of Beshaba, Hand of Despair.
P24 Hm CN
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Ayrik
Great Reader
Canada
7989 Posts |
Posted - 22 Dec 2019 : 01:32:19
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| I like lizardmen because they're intended for swampy and semi-aquatic environs but they're just as thematically suitable for deserts, plains, mountains, caverns, ruins, and dungeons. These might not be their "natural" or preferred terrain but they're sturdy enough to be found almost anywhere which has some water and isn't too cold. |
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sleyvas
Skilled Spell Strategist
USA
11992 Posts |
Posted - 22 Dec 2019 : 11:40:54
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not sure what edition you're looking for, so throwing out general ideas.
mud man
stone flyers can earth glide and look like winged cats
a creature composed of vegetation so that it blends in
vegepygmy chief and thorny (volo's guide to monsters)
slithering tracker (volo's guide to monsters)
Vengeance at Any Cost. The ritual for creating a slithering
tracker is known to hags, liches, and priests who
worship gods of vengeance.
wood woad (volo's guide to monsters) can tree travel short distances and could blend into a swamp |
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Copper Elven Vampire
Master of Realmslore
1078 Posts |
Posted - 22 Dec 2019 : 15:49:14
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quote:
Originally posted by Diffan
Genasi need not necessarily be of Human stock specifically correct?
Correct. All and any Genasi can come from any demi-human race. Moon elf Air Genasi, Rock gnome Earth Genasi, etc... |
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Nilus Reynard
Learned Scribe
Canada
137 Posts |
Posted - 23 Dec 2019 : 02:31:29
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| Another possible creature is a shambling mound. That seems like something that would dwell in swampy environment. |
Nilus Reynard
Doom Master of Beshaba, Hand of Despair.
P24 Hm CN
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Mrestos Khorvaen
Acolyte
Spain
48 Posts |
Posted - 31 Dec 2019 : 10:15:38
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| In fact, the hag has a shambling mound watching her dungeon inside a ruined and desecrated temple of Lathander. |
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Nilus Reynard
Learned Scribe
Canada
137 Posts |
Posted - 01 Jan 2020 : 02:54:14
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| Fantastic. Shambling mounds were always a scary encounter for lower level characters. |
Nilus Reynard
Doom Master of Beshaba, Hand of Despair.
P24 Hm CN
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Copper Elven Vampire
Master of Realmslore
1078 Posts |
Posted - 01 Jan 2020 : 20:38:25
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| Go with Unseelie fey or those evil treants (I forget what they're called). Bullywugs, plant people, werewolves possibly? |
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I need swamp lackeys for a hag
