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Icelander
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Wrigley
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 Posted - 03 Oct 2019 : 22:11:53
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Ed Greenwood posted on line some additional words of dwarven in a post over in the Candlekeep forums. The text of his post is as follows:
"The dwarven language section of FR11 was kept short, because even back then there was an attitude of “Runes are okay for dungeon inscriptions, but THIS is fluff! Keep it short, and give us more new monsters and magic instead!” You’ve no doubt noticed that I tended to stick to “adventuring-situation” words. However, I quite agree that a LOT is missing.
Quite honestly, I don’t have the time to work up a proper “tongue” right now, and probably won’t for a long time to come, but I can certainly expand the working Dwarvish vocabulary by listing some of the ‘missing words’ you mention, as follows:
adamantine: ohloro (usually shortened to “hloro” in everyday speech)
adamantite: oro
armor (plate or piece): harth
chain (linked end to end in rope-like form, not armor): burr
chainmail shirt: hauburr
cold: thorord (“THOR-ord”)
dragon: aug
giant (the creatures): raullen (“RAWL-un”) (literally “tall-walker”) (plural: raraullen)
gleam (reflected light, also a reflected image): spaerend (“SPAYUR-end”)
goblin: usarr (plural: sarr)
hammer: dorth
helm: tholdokh (“thole-DOCK”)
hoard (usually of a dragon, but can be any monster-guarded treasure): augdauh (“og-DAW”)
hobgoblin: usark (plural: sark)
journey (‘walk’): ullen (“ULL-en”)
kobold: ubol (plural: boldrin)
leathers (underlayer for armor, or forge-aprons and other protection): surk (plural: surrthen)
light (true, steady light, such as sunlight, moonlight, and phosphorescence): hara
light hammer (the weapon): hardorth (“HAR-dorth”)
light hammer (a finework tool, smaller than a hardorth): trast
mithral: himral (“HIMM-rall”)
pick (the tool or weapon, not the act of selection): isson (“ISS-awn”) (literally “pierce-stone”)
pierce: iss
priest: thaebrast (“THAY-brast”) (plural: thaebrar)
shield (the item): harbarak (“HAR-bay-ur-ak”) (often shortened to “barak” in daily use)
silver: thordspaer (literally “cold-gleam”)
stone: onn (“AW-nnn”)
tall (high): rau (“RAWW”)
war: aragh (“AR-ag”)
war hammer: aragh dorth
winter: arauthorord (“ar-AW-thor-ord”) (literally “great-cold”)
There are some words in different dwarven than Dethek in Races of Stone (p.25) and Dragon 278 (p.45)
Beside that you can use giant words (Giantcraft p.28) |
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Icelander
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Posted - 31 Oct 2019 : 09:02:18
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Thanks, I've looked through these and George Krashos's dwarven lexicon.
I can't actually find dwarven words for bronze, copper or iron in any of these sources. Which is a weird omission, but given how many words a true language requires, any published lexicon will inevitably be very incomplete.
Do any scribes know of other sources for dwarven words in the Realms?
Has Ed provided any others more recently?
Or Sage Krashos? |
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George Krashos
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Posted - 31 Oct 2019 : 10:59:34
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quote:
Originally posted by Icelander
Thanks, I've looked through these and George Krashos's dwarven lexicon.
I can't actually find dwarven words for bronze, copper or iron in any of these sources. Which is a weird omission, but given how many words a true language requires, any published lexicon will inevitably be very incomplete.
Do any scribes know of other sources for dwarven words in the Realms?
Has Ed provided any others more recently?
Or Sage Krashos?
Ed provided the following to me:
hadand: bronze
hath: copper
rar: iron
-- George Krashos |
"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus |
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Icelander
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cpthero2
Great Reader
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Posted - 26 Feb 2020 : 01:14:25
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Master Krashos,
Do you know of any master language lexicon's that are planned on being released for all of the major languages?
Best regards,
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Originally posted by George Krashos
quote:
Originally posted by Icelander
Thanks, I've looked through these and George Krashos's dwarven lexicon.
I can't actually find dwarven words for bronze, copper or iron in any of these sources. Which is a weird omission, but given how many words a true language requires, any published lexicon will inevitably be very incomplete.
Do any scribes know of other sources for dwarven words in the Realms?
Has Ed provided any others more recently?
Or Sage Krashos?
Ed provided the following to me:
hadand: bronze
hath: copper
rar: iron
-- George Krashos
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George Krashos
Master of Realmslore
Australia
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Posted - 26 Feb 2020 : 05:52:40
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Originally posted by cpthero2
Master Krashos,
Do you know of any master language lexicon's that are planned on being released for all of the major languages?
Best regards,
I don't think that this would be something that WotC would be interested in doing. Then again, I am not and never have been a WotC employee, so wouldn't know one way or the other. I suppose anything is possible.
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"Because only we, contrary to the barbarians, never count the enemy in battle." -- Aeschylus |
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cpthero2
Great Reader
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Posted - 26 Feb 2020 : 06:52:14
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Master Krashos,
Yeah, I figured that would be the answer. WotC tends to do that a lot these days.
Ehhh....
Maybe I'll do it! ;)
In all reality, I am working on, slowly, a fluctuating econ model for the Realms based on things such as PPP, large block trade volume, and other medieval metrics (ok, PPP is not medieval)
Best regards,
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Originally posted by George Krashos
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Originally posted by cpthero2
Master Krashos,
Do you know of any master language lexicon's that are planned on being released for all of the major languages?
Best regards,
I don't think that this would be something that WotC would be interested in doing. Then again, I am not and never have been a WotC employee, so wouldn't know one way or the other. I suppose anything is possible.
-- George Krashos
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Dwarven Words for Metals
